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In Israel, memorial events have been
taking place to mark 2 years since Hamas
launched its attacks on the 7th of
October. Around 1,200 people were killed
by Hamas that day, and 251 others were
taken hostage. 48 of those are still in
Gaza, though more than half of them are
feared dead. In response, Israel's
military launched a campaign in Gaza.
More than 67,000
people have been killed there, according
to the Hamasrun Health Ministry. But
could we be on the brink of an end to
the conflict? Today in Egypt, indirect
talks between Israel and the
Palestinians have been taking place to
try to agree President Trump's plan to
end the war. We'll have more from Jeremy
Burn on the plan and the situation in
Gaza in a moment. But first, our Middle
East correspondent Lucy Williamson
reports from Jerusalem.
At the Nova Festival site today, they
tried to ignore the sounds of war across
the border. Tens of thousands of guards
and dead haven't repaired the wounds of
survivors here.
Ramy came here on the 7th of October to
rescue people. Posing as an attacker, he
saved one young woman from her Hamas
captives. But there are ghosts here of
those he couldn't save.
I feel a lot of pain because I saw what
happened here. The ground we are
standing on held bodies and bodies
parts. For me, every tree has a meaning.
I know what happened to these trees.
I know who was tied to these trees.
Hundreds of festival goers were hunted
down by Hamas gunman as the sun rose
that day. Dozens more were taken
hostage.
22-year-old Libby rang her mother to say
she'd been shot in the stomach and that
her friend and everyone around her was
dead.
And then she said, "Mommy, they're
coming to shoot me again."
The terrorists, they they saw that she's
alive. They saw that she's speaking on
the phone and they come for less than
one meter and we heard the shots that
killed her again.
Two years on, she says she doesn't feel
safer here. I asked her what would help.
I think that all the leaders should go.
It's like in the computer that you're
doing a control delete and you're doing
a end task. We should end the this task
should be ended.
It's been 2 years since Benjamin
Netanyahu vowed to restore Israel's
security, but the sounds of the war in
Gaza are still echoing around this site.
And Benjamin Netanyahu, once known as
Mr. Security, is facing the question of
whether that war can ever repair the
mistakes that led to this.
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Mr. Netanyahu has faced growing pressure
to end the war and bring the hostages
home. But with elections due next year,
he knows that few at these protests
would ever vote for him.
His own voters views on the war are
mixed. In this Netanyahu stronghold in
Jerusalem, people were preparing for the
Jewish holiday of Sukkot.
If Benjamin Netanyahu goes along with
Trump's plan, what would you say to him?
That is crazy. It's crazy.
He'd lose your support.
You lose everything.
But I don't think it's that it's what
he's going to do. Maybe it's what he
tell, but it's not what he's going to
do. Tonight in Tel Aviv, a minute's
silence for the victims of the attacks.
But this is a divided country led by a
man who promised security. How much war
will it take to persuade Israelis he
didn't fail them back then. Lucy
Williamson, BBC News, Jerusalem.
As talks to end the war continue in
Egypt, a US team is on its way to the
negotiations. Today, President Trump
says there is a really good chance a
deal can be agreed. His peace plan
presented together with Israel's Prime
Minister Netanyahu and agreed in part by
Hamas these major sticking points for
both sides to resolve. But it does
specify that if a ceasefire is agreed,
Israel will stop all military
operations. Hamas will release all
living and dead hostages within 72 hours
of the ceasefire. Then aid would be able
to move freely into Gaza and eventually
redevelopment would begin. After two
years of war in Gaza, the UN estimates
more than 90% of homes are thought to
have been damaged or destroyed with
hundreds of thousands of people
displaced. Hamas have been significantly
reduced as a fighting force, but not
eliminated. Israel doesn't allow
international journalists, including the
BBC, into Gaza. Our international
editor, Jeremy Bones, sent this report
from Jerusalem.
To mark the anniversary, Hamas released
an AI animation celebrating the attacks
on Israel two years ago. The commentary
calls on God to humiliate Israel. It
claims Hamas shattered the myth of
Israeli invincibility. The video
reincarnates leaders Israel has killed.
This is Yahi Sinoir, chief architect of
the 7th of October, who tried to down an
Israeli drone with a stick in his last
moments. The video says Palestinians
cannot surrender.
In Gaza, which Israel does not let us
enter to report freely, reality is a
long way from AI. 2 years of war and
more than 67,000, mostly civilians
killed by Israel, according to the
Hamasrun Health Ministry means 2 million
Gardens are following the talks in
Egypt, hoping desperately for a
ceasefire. This is suede filmed by a
freelance team working for the BBC
displaced from his home like most
gardens.
He says, "We've been under this brutal
occupation for nearly two years. We're
praying for a ceasefire and for success
in the negotiations. People are fed up
with this. They are tired of war."
This is Naz also displaced.
She says, "I follow the news closely. I
tell myself there's progress. Be
optimistic. Then when night comes, we
have nothing more than increased
shelling on the tents of displaced
people in the areas they claim are safe.
On the streets, is trying to show it's
still in charge. A fortnight ago, it
carried out a public execution of men it
said had collaborated with Israel.
They were kicked over and moments later
shot dead. Hamas wants to keep some
weapons, fearing revenge attacks. A few
days ago, this Hamas squad was in a gun
battle with a clan it saw as a threat.
Israel intervened, killing the Hamas men
with a drone.
From Jerusalem, I reached a human rights
activist in Gaza, Halil Abu Shamala. He
accepts Hamas still has a significant
following, but he's had enough.
So tell me, do you think Hamas is
finished? I think that it is too late.
This is my point of view. It is too late
for Hamas to uh to renew or to call
people or to ask people to accept them
again.
But what about the West Bank where
Jewish settlers attack Palestinians
almost every day? This was near Napas.
The West Bank, the biggest part of the
land the UK and others recognize as
Palestine, is not mentioned in the Trump
peace plan, raising Palestinian
suspicions.
So, the first risk is uh the possibility
that Netanyahu could undermine the talks
again.
Uh the second thing that worries all of
us and all Palestinians as a matter of
fact is that everybody is worried that
if Netanyahu or once Netanyahu gets his
captives, he will reactivate the war.
The third big problem is the issue of
withdrawal from Gaza. It's not clear if
he's if they're really planning to
withdraw and from where are they going
to withdraw.
Just outside Jerusalem, Israel has
authorized a major expansion of Jewish
settlements illegal under international
law. Its prime minister says this land
is ours. The Israeli government is very
open about why it wants to build on
these hills to stop the creation of a
viable and independent Palestine.
Donald Trump says that he can bring
peace to the entire Middle East.
The talks in Egypt are not going to do
that. They can potentially, if they
overcome a lot of obstacles,
be an endgame for the war in Gaza. But
the overall conflict will continue.
With Gaza in ruins, Israel wants to
declare victory after the talks in
Egypt. Hamas wants to survive somehow
and rebuild itself.
That sounds like an impossible circle to
square. Jeremy Bowen, BBC News,
Jerusalem.
So Jeremy, we can talk to to Jeremy in
Jerusalem now. So talks are taking place
in Egypt now. What chance is this time
of getting a peace deal?
Well, the uh the general opinion is that
this is actually a good chance. And what
makes it different is that President
Donald Trump is putting pressure not
just on Hamas and there is no political
penalty for American presidents to put
pressure on Hamas or the Palestinians,
but he's also putting pressure on
Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel's prime
minister, and that is a new thing. It's
not something that Joe Biden would have
done. And that's probably got them now
to the negotiating table. But they're
talking about Trump's 20point plan. Now,
to be honest, it's pretty vague in a lot
of places there. There's precious little
detail. It's more like a framework. So
what they're trying to do is fill in the
gaps with precision, with language, with
maps, with timetables, things like that
exchange of hostages for Palestinian
prisoners, things like whether or not
Hamas will be allowed to keep any kinds
of weapons. A really difficult agenda
and trying to get into the detail means
that's when the obstacles will emerge.
And how do they get over that? The
crucial thing, I think, is continued
American pressure on both sides because
between the Israelis and Hamas, there
is, as you'd expect, zero trust or
goodwill.
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