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Today we're eating the craziest cheat
meal of Jesse's life. But first, we got
to get a pump on.
>> Side chest. Give him a side chest.
>> That's not That's not side chest. This
is side chest.
>> You almost got it. Jesse James West is a
fitness creator on YouTube who has
filmed a wide variety of videos from
exploring celebrity home gyms to
training with elite athletes and even
discussing major topics in the health
and fitness field. You can check him out
on his YouTube channel, Jesse James
West. Welcome back to Cheat Meals. We
all got to eat and sometimes we all got
to cheat. We are here with the legend
Jesse James West himself about to eat
his cheat meal. But first, you got to
work out, man. What are we doing today?
>> Today, we're going to be doing my travel
style workout. Obviously, I'm on the
road all the time. I just took a flight
to be here and I'm proud to be here.
We're going to be doing back, shoulders,
and biceps.
>> So, this is like when people keep a
bottle of Cholula in their bag at all
times, like just in case they need to
like get their fix. This is your bag of
your little Cholula in the bag. For me,
it's like it's more of like a sugar-free
maple syrup or sometimes real maple
maple syrup. I like to use that in my
bag and bring it wherever I go. Put it
on a salad. Put it on anything.
>> You putting sugar-free maple syrup on a
salad. This is the relentless mindset.
>> I don't want to talk when I put it on.
>> What? So, we got lat pull downs right
now. This to me is an interesting
choice. If you're only picking like
three exercises for a travel day to get
a pump on, why are you going lat pull
down? So, the lat pull down, it's
similar to the pull-up, but you can at
least adjust the weight to be pretty
efficient on whether you're going to do
drop sets or if you're just going to be
going heavy. Like, you can kind of pick
and choose right on the spot without
wasting any other time. And for me, I'm
going to make these sets as intense as
possible by doing probably some drop
sets. Like, I feel it out. I don't
really just
>> I don't have that much of a plan. It's
kind of like my life. Just I just kind
of go with the flow.
>> You listen to your body. It's like jazz,
baby.
>> Yeah. We're just playing as we feel. and
flash, you know, like
>> you know, I look like Miles Teller.
>> You kind of do. I'll be your JK Simmons.
I'll shave my head and start screaming
at you.
>> Yo, can you
>> I want that on these sets. I got you. I
got you.
>> All right. So, we're going to do three
sets.
>> Three sets.
>> Uh pretty much just go to failure on
every single set.
>> All right.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Let's go. I'm just going to go right
into it. Like first set. Okay.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Jump in hard.
>> I'll JK Simmons you.
>> Yeah. Please. It's not my tempo. Do you
even want to be here? Are you rushing or
are you dragging?
>> I'm dragging.
>> Are you So you do know the difference.
>> No,
I got
that was so good. All I can remember.
>> Just remember it's always about the
motion of the ocean.
>> I'm less motion of the ocean and more
like it's about your emotional
attentiveness and afterare,
>> dude. You know, like there's going to be
a great breakfast. Don't lose that
tension at the bottom. Drive all the way
through. Come on out. Yeah, buddy.
And I'm a peanut.
>> Dude, you're bringing out like the demon
inside of me.
>> The inner. It's because you see your own
mortality in me. Like 25.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. 8 years.
It's all downhill. Come on now.
>> Testosterone rates drop after 30
statistically.
>> You're going to need TRT. Some
>> got to fight against it.
>> Someone call a medic. We need some TRT.
Go. Pull. Pull.
>> Two more. Two more. Come on. Come on.
Go.
>> That's right. I don't need no TRT. I
need CTC. That's Cinnamon Dust Crunch,
baby.
>> Yes.
>> Oh my gosh. I couldn't even open my
hands enough to dap them up properly.
You gave me a claw, bro.
>> Last set. We're going sideways hat. Just
think about the delicious pancakes at
the end of this.
>> Yes, pancakes are coming for
>> There it is. Drive, drive, drive, drive,
drive.
>> Drop that. I'm at 187. I'm feeling what?
143. I feel like that's good.
>> Sometimes I have trouble finding it.
>> You got to use your finger to to find
it. Yeah, which there's no shame in
that.
>> Come on. Come on. You're him. You are
him.
>> Someone call him Shalomé.
>> Where's he at?
>> He's so talented.
>> He deserves so many more awards.
>> One more pull.
>> Good.
>> Perfect.
>> Okay.
>> All right. That's exercise one of three.
>> Let's hit the showers. I'll uh I'll meet
you in there, bro. Let's go.
[Music]
>> Next exercise is going to be a rear delt
cable fly. So, we're going to hit it
from the behind over here. Grab your
cable. It's a little It's a little
weird. So, like pay attention.
>> I am left arm, right cable, right arm,
left cable. Okay, you're cross
chest up. Squeeze the rear delts. Can
you touch the rear delts to make sure
the audience knows what the heck that
is?
>> So rear delt right here. Some are
calling this the muscle of the summer
2025. Now the delt has three different
heads. You have rear side and then you
have anterior frontal right here. A lot
of people neglect the rear delt. So what
Jesse's going to do right now try and
pinch those shoulder blades together
then stay tight. Now I like what he's
doing. He's getting a long stretch on
that so he can really pull it back and
retract the scap. That's real.
>> I was like I was making
>> that was like that was like are you Dr.
Mike or Greg Ducet or something? I just
watched all of your content and all of
them are there and exactly. No, that was
that was perfect. What is the Titanic
people's names?
>> Jack and Rose, come on. Come on, Rose.
>> Rose, you got this.
>> This is exactly what happens in the
movie, dude. They were doing cable
flies.
>> Is that what you thought was happening
in the car when it steamed up?
>> Yeah. Do you think that Jack and Rose
could have both fit on that thing? I
think ultimately the story was a parable
about sacrifice and love. And I think if
they both had lived, we wouldn't have
gotten to tell that story. And then
James Cameron wouldn't have made Avatar.
>> What do you think?
>> There we go. Turn. Turn to the camera.
>> Go. Go. Bring it here.
>> There we go. Yeah.
>> You're here.
>> Yeah. Let's go side chest. Do
>> you want to like Okay. Side chest.
>> Oh, were you trying to trust chest?
>> Well,
this is how they in Avatar how they
actually mate. They call it making
sahaloo. What's up, y'all? Now we're
moving on to the only exercise that
actually matters. The bicep curl.
>> Great take. We don't have to do a
second. Here you go. Here's your mic.
Thank you.
>> Awesome.
>> Call me the one take one. That's
>> That was sick.
>> That's pretty good. You did a great job.
Great core stability.
>> Hell yeah. That That was part of the
exercise. Okay, so with this one,
>> that was so sick.
>> Okay, that was really cool. So, this is
the wavy bar. I call it the wavy bar. Uh
it's a little more like Jesse James Zest
than Jesse James West. So, just have
that little like wiggle shimmy to you.
>> So, we're going to do eight to 10 reps
underhand. And then when you're
finished, you're going to flip over, hit
it from the other side, and do overhand
curls. I've got a 70 and you got a baby
50.
>> This already feels heavy to me.
>> All right. Ready? Let's do it. Ready?
Go.
>> One. Slow.
Two. Good.
Three.
Four.
10.
>> Now we flip it.
>> Flip it. Count. You
>> keeping the same uh the same width on
the bar?
>> Yeah. Just just just straight shoulder
width. Ready? One, two, three.
One. I've never done this before.
>> You're going to feel it on your forearms
so much.
Three. You're not going to be able to do
full 10.
>> Four.
Five. One more.
>> And then you just give them a little
Dude, you see the peaks?
>> Oh my god. The peaks and the valleys,
man. Just let you know.
>> It's like a topographical map.
>> The bathroom is that way.
>> Really?
>> No, it's actually it's actually it's
actually over there.
>> Take a
>> What? What? We're I thought we were just
flexing and talking about bathroom
instead of Okay, so we're going to do
two more sets.
>> All right, got it.
>> Let's hit this and finish strong. Okay,
>> let's do it, baby.
>> Let's finish together.
>> I feel good.
>> You ready to finish together at the same
time?
>> Always the goal,
>> you know. It's always the goal cuz it's
it's really about it's about that
connection. You're in the gym to be
connected with each other.
>> It's special. It's special when you do.
Would you promise to look at me, though?
>> I Yeah,
>> I I do. I I think again I'm here for the
emotional intimacy. It's never about the
lifting. People think it's about the
lifting.
>> Let's face each other. It's not. This is
about connecting with other humans in a
place where you feel
>> if you look away once we restart.
[Music]
>> This is nice. I'm like forgetting that
we're doing biceps. See, I'm lost in
your eyes. What color are they?
>> I put hazel on my driver's license.
Okay.
>> You have nice like light brown eyes.
>> Thank you. That's interesting. A little
green in there. Little green. Do you
have any like Iberian in you?
>> Iberian. This isn't a a would you like
to thing? I'm just literally asking if
family's from the port like Portugal or
Spain.
>> I'm really close.
Portugal and Spain.
>> You're really close to what I am
country. I'm I'm definitely European.
Flip over. We're very close. Jesus. Come
on. All right. Five together.
>> Okay. I'm actually Puerto Rican.
>> Are you Puerto Rican?
>> Yeah.
>> Just a little. Very European.
>> Ready. Last one.
Jess.
That's called brotherhood.
There we go.
This is the last exercise of the day.
We're going to be doing a push-up
challenge. It's going to fuel my body
for the pancakes that are ahead. Um
action.
>> You got to say Mark.
>> Mark. Who's Mark?
>> I'm Josh.
>> You're Josh. Why would I say Mark?
>> You got to say Mark. That's how they
know it's action.
>> Josh. There it is. Got it. I've got a
push-up challenge for you and I. We're
going to be doing as many push-ups as
possible at the same tempo at the same
time. We're good at that together. And
we're going to go until one of us
I wish I could say both of us are
finishing, but only one of us is going
to finish. The other one's just going to
fail.
>> Sometimes it is just a war of attrition.
And it is trying to win. Who's Who's
giving us the count?
>> I will.
>> You're doing the count. All right.
>> When it gets hard, I I might struggle.
All right.
>> Up,
down, up, down, up, down, up, down. Hold
it.
>> I did not say up. Oh, I did not say up.
Up,
down,
up, down, up, down, up, down, up. You
tired? Down. Not at all. That's an extra
rep for no reason. Up, down, up, down,
up, down,
up, down, up, down, up,
down, up, down, up, down, up, down. Up,
down. I'm down. I'm down. Up. I'm down.
I'm starfish. I'm starfish. Up.
Down. Wait. Wait. Wait. Ready. Down. Up.
Down. Do your sport. Starfish.
>> What?
>> Down. Up.
>> I'm still doing it.
>> Yeah, man. You need some pancakes?
>> I think it's time to get some food.
>> Jesse, you ready to eat?
>> I am starving.
>> Bring out that cheat meal.
>> Give me it. Oh,
no way. Yo, it kind of looks like what a
hyperactive 8-year-old would want to
eat. And I mean that in the best way.
That is me. We got the mint Oreo
milkshake with some fresh whipped cream
on top. We got the M&M pancakes with
plenty of syrup. We got a big old basket
of fries with some buffalo sauce on the
side. We got the fried Oreos. And then
of course, a bunch of greasy hash browns
with ketchup.
>> The milkshake.
>> Hey, cheers, man. Milkshake.
>> Oh my gosh. Drink up.
Oh,
sugar heaven.
>> Have you ever engaged in the process of
dirty bulking?
>> That's where all this food stems from.
>> Wait, really?
>> When I was 18, like the 16 to 18 realm,
I most certainly dirty bulked. Every
night, I would have this this giant
shake,
>> dude. Cons with that had like it was the
extra calorie, extra sugar almond milk
or or like chocolate almond milk. Then I
would do half a cup of oats, two chunks
of peanut butter, a mass gainer scoop,
and oh, chocolate sauce. I would put
chocolate sauce. I just wasn't aware of
like sugar and diabetes that you could
potentially do yourself.
>> It was gain. It was just gains back
then.
>> Dude, it was I'm not going to lie, but
like it paid off. Look at that now. Just
me and him.
>> It went sugar to muscle somehow. Oh, are
you kidding?
>> When you're younger, you can do that.
The sugar just converts to muscle. Your
body knows how to do it.
>> Where do you want to start here? Pink. I
feel like pancakes are the next move.
Let me give you like some backstory
here. My mom used to cook pancakes
before high school a few days a week.
>> Mhm.
>> She's one of the best people in the
world. And she would make me or my
sister M&M pancakes. Like most moms
would never do this. They'd be like,
"That's too much sugar."
>> That's such a good mom dish, though.
>> For real. It's become a staple in in the
West household to have M&M pancakes. I
just did a trip to Colorado with my
sister for we're doing Airbnb gyms.
That's a video I'm working on.
>> Oh, cool. And we're just going to we're
staying in really fit houses. Of course,
we're being fit. But in the morning, M&M
pancakes.
>> So many people have never had it either,
though. Have you ever had M&M pancakes?
>> Dude, I don't think I have.
>> You got to try it. It is gas.
>> You got to split the whipped cream. I
can't get the pancake off the top.
>> Okay. Okay. And then another thing is
there's this restaurant in New Jersey
where I'm from. I'm from Jersey, North
Jersey. It's called Jefferson Diner and
they have insane
pancakes that have M&M's in them. How
often do you allow yourself to do stuff
like this these days and actually just
like rub out?
>> I feel like once a week I'll have maybe
not all of this. That would be a little
crazy. Is it good?
>> Mhm.
>> It's amazing. I know.
>> But I I definitely do have cheat meals
every so often. I try to not live too
restrictive unless I'm really cutting
for like a bodybuilding show, but that's
just really rare. So, I make sure I get
my protein in early in the morning. I
make sure I get my protein in at lunch.
And then I'm like, you know what? I got
a little extra carbs for for the night
time. a few Oreos, have a have a little
little cereal bowl or make some pancakes
and enjoy them. I don't think you should
restrict too much in life, dude. Food is
one of the greatest pleasures. Why cut
it out completely? I found a balance and
I feel like there's definitely ways to
do it,
>> dude. 100%. And I think so many people,
especially in fitness, right? Right.
Hold your thought. I need I need another
bite, bro.
>> We got all these pancakes to eat, too.
>> Oh my god. So many people in the fitness
world, they get into this like grind set
mentality. Everything is supposed to be
the most intense thing in the world. You
have to dry scoop your pre-workout
because pain is ultimately good.
>> Like actually though,
>> I think some people fall into that with
diet, too. I was at the gym and I heard
two guys talking. One just goes,
>> "Yeah, I'm down to half a cheat meal a
week." I was like, "The hell does that
mean?"
>> A PR for some reason.
>> Yeah. Like everything is a PR, though.
>> I think I think fitness fitness is
amazing. Obviously, it gives me a
beautiful life. I love my life. If I
love healthy pancakes in my mouth,
>> dude. For real. Let's go.
>> No, you're saying something real.
>> I was trying to get deep there, but
we'll get back to
>> um I've had my struggles with food.
Like,
>> I wouldn't say that I have an eating
disorder, but I definitely have
disorderly eating habits.
>> And I've gotten way better over the
years. Like my my wife Claudia has truly
helped me. She's like, "When I first met
her, I would eat this and then I would
feel so guilty and I sometimes it's
tough to admit this. I would literally
go for a run,
>> which is so psychotic and so bad."
>> Same thing. Yeah. You're punishing
yourself for the
>> You're like, "Oh, I I just had 1,000
calories. I got to go run and burn what
100." Like, it's not going to do
anything.
>> Yeah. But it's not doing anything
physically, and you know that when you
understand the science of it, but it's
>> it's doing something for you mentally
because you're feeling that pain on the
outside that you feel on the inside. I
always say it's memories over macros,
which is like,
>> do you have a t-shirt that says that?
>> No, I should. Can you get some merch?
>> I'm getting it.
>> So, it's memories over macros. If you're
out at a carnival and there's fried
Oreos with your girlfriend or wife or
whoever, like, are you really going to
skip out on having a good time making a
core memory, or are you going to dive in
and at least have one or two? I think
the the the best way to look at it is
like 8020.
>> Yeah. So, like 80% of the time or even
7030 if you really want to push it. 70
70% of the time you're being solid.
you're being good, whatever you want to
call it. The other time you're you're
indulging and you don't have the
self-control to be, you know, maybe a
single person shouldn't eat all this
with your
>> Well, let's not get crazy. I think
>> let's not get crazy. Give me Cheers. As
I
>> don't forget it. Don't Yeah. Just let me
get this down real quick.
>> Oh man. But moving on up. What is this?
So, this is buffalo sauce.
>> Is this like
>> I know you're diggity down to the
buffalo sauce.
>> I love buffalo sauce.
>> Big fan of fries and buffalo sauce. We
also got a big ass thing of ketchup over
here for
>> No. So most of your meal is um some sort
of pancake based sweet treat and or
fried potatoes.
>> Yes.
>> Which I do respect.
>> So this is another thing from that that
diner in New Jersey.
>> Mhm.
>> They have killer hash browns. And I was
curious if you guys want to do the
shredded version, which is proper.
>> Mhm.
>> And that's the best way to do it. So I'm
going to give it a little try.
>> We tried to go like half diner, half
McDonald's.
>> I'm going to get a little Let's get a
little ketchup going.
>> Too much syrup on my plate.
>> Dude, if you miss if you mix the syrup
and the ketchup, it's actually fire.
>> That's nice. I think that's just like a
different form of ketchup at that point.
You know, get that ketchup.
>> Sweet. Delicious.
>> Oh, hell yeah.
>> That's also what you are.
>> Thanks, man.
>> Oh. Oh, he's peeking. I need an
ambulance.
>> So many people who end up take Sorry.
Sorry. I had this intrusive thought.
>> What were you saying?
>> So many people who take fitness too far.
To me, it's completely antithetical to
the reason that you should do this
because for me, and I know you have like
a history of like working out, getting
into fitness to kind of cure depression
in a way. It's like you're adding that
stress when there should be something
that alleviates it.
>> What was what ultimately got you into
the gym? Was it that mental aspect of
it?
>> There's there's what got me to the gym
and then what made me love the gym.
>> What got me into the gym was lacrosse.
>> Yeah. I was 150 pounds freshman year of
high school, which is not like that
light, but
>> I had the skill to play varsity, which
is like the top level
>> uh in the high school. Up to a certain
degree, I I could not push back against
these seniors physically.
>> And my coach told me like, "Hey, we've
got these other freshman. They're a
little bigger than you. You know, you're
you're fighting for a spot because of
your size." And I was like, "Oh." But
that day, my coach told me that I
literally went to the gym and I was
like, "Okay, well, if I need to be big
and strong, I need big legs." So, I hit
legs first.
>> I squatted first. Like out of all
things, I had a weird thing where I just
never skipped leg day my entirety of the
curve. Ahead of the curve. I was like I
was like reverse reverse bro.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Orb.
>> Orb. I was orb. I was real orb.
>> Bro backwards.
>> No. I got it. I got it.
>> Oh, you got it. I just want to make
sure.
>> You can say it again though.
>> So instead of bro, it's orb.
>> Oh, it's like
>> orb bro backwards. Okay. But so I hit
legs. I I'm like I got to get big. I
start eating. I start having that shake
that I mentioned earlier.
>> And then after like a year of doing
that, I never skipped any days. I I went
to the gym every day. I I ate every
piece of protein I possibly could, all
the calories I could. And once I started
seeing the progress, I was like, "Holy
crap, this is awesome."
>> Yeah.
>> Like it becomes addicting in a way in
like a very positive way where you once
you see results,
>> it's so hard to actually like give up on
that. You're like, "Dude, I want to keep
making making gains."
>> It's the same way as anyone playing
violin, I think. Right. It's just like
it's that self-esteem building from a
young age in a really vulnerable time.
>> Exactly. And and being so young like I
was it helped me build my confidence as
well. Like oh I got muscle like you
can't tell me nothing, you know, like
walking my head up a little bit. So I
built a lot of muscle over the next few
years. I pretty much put on like 10 lbs
every year from 15 to 18. So I got up to
like 180. And the gym just became a
place where even if I had a bad game,
even if I got broken up with or, you
know, a friend's pissed at me or I
failed a test or whatever the hell might
be going on in my in my actual life, I
could just put myself in this in this
space where there's iron being thrown
around and just kind of escape, which is
good in the moment. You still have to
face those things when you leave, which
I've learned as I get got older. But
during that time, you really just, you
know, you develop just kind of learning
what you love and and escaping from that
anxiety and depression. I dealt with a
lot of anxiety growing up. I didn't
really know that I was until I got older
and learned like what the hell I was
feeling. I'm the type of person like I'm
very energetic, but also like on the
verge of having anxiety all the time
where when I lift it kind of it kind of
like kicks the edge off. So, if I don't
work out, like I almost I feel like
there's like zooies in me that are like
I need like a dog ready to run around or
I'm about to have like an like a little
mini anxiety kind of thing going on. So,
if I lift, I feel right. If I don't
lift, something's off. I remember
explaining the same thing to my
therapist and she was like, "Well, what
happens when you don't have access to a
gym?"
>> I'll just like start running or I'll
just like do push-ups or sometimes I'll
just do cut cuz you can find like a
balcony and do burpees. She was like,
"Well, I think the point I was trying to
make is like you you may not always have
access to that as a coping mechanism, so
where else are you going to get it?" And
I was like,
>> "I ain't never thought about that.
>> That's what therapy is for." Damn.
>> Yeah. Exact. No, I think she was trying
to prove her worth.
>> If you can take care of your physical
health and your mental health and then
eat some French fries with your boys,
like that's a great way.
>> You ever go on walks with your wife?
>> You ever walk on walks?
>> We go on walks.
>> How nice is that? Do a little walk. One
thing that I do that is like super like
I would say kind of hippie-ish, but like
I love it. I take my ice plunge. I get
out. I stand on the grass. I manifest
into the sky. I literally I imagine that
I'm absorbing all of my goals and future
things into my body and I I picture
everything that I that that that stands
for what I want. Like I picture like
before it was like picture the wedding,
picture maybe like uh a kid in the
future, picture like successful
business, cutting a ribbon of something
big, like big things happening. And I
feel like trying to absorb the positive
energy through that, it just like sets
your mind right. And also, I really just
believe that if you kind of put that out
into the world and try to accept like
things come.
>> Yeah.
>> Like this freaking Oreo into my mouth.
>> Let's use some Oreos, man.
>> You ready?
>> Sorry. You said things come and I was
going to make a joke, but it was a
really sweet sentiment and so I didn't
say that.
>> I'm I respect it.
>> But then by saying that I was going to
make the joke, I've almost effectively
made the joke without the ever
>> You did. You did. But it wasn't funny.
>> It wasn't funny at all.
>> You know, you should work on that.
I'm probably not going to
>> All right. Cheers.
>> Once you hit your 30s, you're like,
"This is as good as I get. There's no
improvement." I was thinking about
dipping it, but no, we should go. Okay.
>> I'm too deep. We have so many.
>> Yeah, dude. Okay, dig in.
>> One of the world's truly grape foods.
>> Oh my god.
>> Are you kidding me, bro?
>> Well, I'm going to dip it in mostly
maple syrup, but a little bit of
ketchup.
>> I got an idea.
>> Get the white powder.
He's making a crash now. This is a white
collar. This is the white color.
>> Oh, we're rolling. Oh, we're rolling.
>> Did the Jonas brothers sit here?
>> Yeah.
>> No way.
>> Where are the Jonas brothers, dude?
>> Which one sat here? Joe.
>> No way.
>> New Jersey legends.
>> New Jersey legend. Legend.
>> Yo, they're from Wyoff. I am from
Sparta. That's like 30 minutes. We could
have been best friends. We could have
only if I just grew up a little bit
younger. Or no, I was born sooner. I
would have been I would have been the
freaking fourth Jonas brother. I There's
There's already a fourth. His name's
Frank.
>> I would have been the I would have been
the fifth Jonas brother. I I meant more
like publicly.
>> Sure. Yeah, the public. Yeah,
>> I know everything about him. I already
know. Sorry.
>> I think you I would say I'm I'm more
like Nick, but you know, it's just I
don't I think you're a Joe. No, I think
I'm like Joe.
>> I think you're a Joe. Yeah, Joe. Kind of
light-hearted trickster god. Nick,
brooding, like really deep, sensitive,
sweet man. And then, you know, Kevin,
the loving family man. Listen, the Jonas
Brothers, when you need uh either a
backup singer or honestly another front
man, like listen,
>> listen, bro. Listen, you don't have to
beg. It's all good. Like, don't
embarrass yourself. I'm in.
>> I'm in.
>> Oh, man.
>> Hold on one sec.
>> There it is. Yeah.
>> Yeah, we
>> I'm never washing my butt again. This is
a this is going to be a violent turn in
conversation, but I really wanted to ask
you given how much work you've done
talking to like teens about steroid use.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> Do you think it's better or worse that
people are now so open with steroid use?
Cuz I hear all of these natty or not
videos of people going like, "No, I'm
not natty. What I have done is not
achievable naturally. Don't think that
it is." And then sort of writing that
off as in like that's a good thing that
I'm admitting that.
>> But now I think we're seeing a huge
explosion. Yeah.
>> of young people on steroids that is like
frankly freaking me the hell out being a
reflection of 17-year-old me.
>> It's definitely
really tough like to witness cuz
obviously when I go to meet and greets a
lot of my a lot of my followers are, you
know, there I have a lot of the range of
every age, but a lot of them are 15 to
23, you know, like just young like
young. I'm I mean I'm 25, not that much
older, but in the developing age of
their fitness journey. And so many of
them have come up to me and asked me
like, "Dude, do you think I should take
steroids?" And I'm like, "Are you
serious?" I'm like,
>> I mean, I'm not going to judge them that
they're asking me this cuz they're
genuinely asking. And I always try to be
like, "Dude, there's like give yourself
5 years of lifting before you even think
of that that question."
>> Social media has rewarded people that do
steroids.
>> When someone posts about something that
taboo, holding the steroid, or they're
jacked as hell, like, it's novel. It's
unique. It's it's it's controversial.
And when people see that and they're
like, "Oh my gosh, that guy just blew up
overnight and he's on gear," they don't
think like, "Oh, maybe it's because of
this or maybe because of that." They're
just like, "He's huge. If I was huge, I
could be that person."
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, I'm not an idiot. Like, there's
a lot of people that watch my videos.
And if I'm juiced up, subconsciously,
I'm promoting steroids. But instead, I'm
natural. I have a natural physique that
is achievable with good genetics. Like
if you have bad genetics, you you'll be
the best version of you. You'll never
look exactly like me. I'll never look
like you. Just that's not how it works.
But I but what I show is that I put in
the work and the habits to look the best
that I can and live the best life I can.
And I'm trying to show that
subconsciously through the same thing as
if I was big
>> that you can do the same naturally and
live a great life. And that's like my
goal is just to show people that to live
life to the absolute fullest in a very
healthy way.
>> You can be diced to the socks here, but
it's being diced to the socks here.
>> Yes.
>> Really matters.
>> That's honestly that's one of the
reasons I I love your content so much. I
made for years and it's this kind of
holistic view of fitness and I
>> I didn't grow up with a lot of these
fitness content creators. I grew up on
like bodybuilding.com message boards
which were
>> what a wild place to be in in the early
2000s. But to see people out there that
are genuine role models, you know, to
young kids like me who are out there.
Sorry, I choke. I literally just show
content.
>> But no, man, it it rolls to see and it's
um
>> I appreciate that a lot.
>> Thanks, man. As you get older and you
start thinking about having kids of your
own, you like suddenly start to get
scared of the youth and like, oh god,
what are they going to think about the
world? And
>> yeah,
>> knowing that you're out there, man, it
No, it means a lot to me.
>> I appreciate that for real. Thank you,
man.
>> Honestly,
>> and you're not one of the youngsters,
though.
>> Oh, man. We always ask people, what does
strength mean to you?
>> I think an Oreo is going to give me the
thought that I need.
What are you doing? You want me to do
that? No. Or you want me to I was going
to Which one are they all?
>> What?
>> I forgot something.
>> Oh, thanks.
>> I was going to give you some, but
>> Oh,
>> okay. Go ahead.
>> What was the question?
>> What are you thinking about?
>> Wait, I for I had a thought and then it
left.
>> What does strength mean? What does
strength mean? Okay, in all seriousness,
I think strength to me, strength means
going through something extremely
difficult that's not even physical, like
a life moment, a life roadblock, whether
it's depression, anxiety, losing a loved
one, whatever that might be. and being
able to make specific choices in life to
either reroute your life for the better
or basically like have a comeback of
your own and be able to overcome those
obstacles. I think that is true
strength. I would like I would say like
my my my strongest
>> point in my life was when I was the most
depressed in 2018. I was at college. I
was so depressed like didn't hated life
and and the only thing I could enjoy was
music and lifting and I consciously made
the decision to take charge and to make
a change in my life by making different
choices and escaping myself from that
scenario
to then live a life that I was meant to
and not that I was supposed to. And that
means a lot to me, like that saying in
itself, like live a life you're meant
to, not you're supposed to. Because
everyone's being told what they're
supposed to by the world, the
government, society, friends, family,
whatever it might be. But there's a
there's a life that we're all meant to
be living.
>> And I think strength comes within making
choices to get yourself to that cuz
everyone deserves that.
>> Finding your purpose, man. People don't
realize that's the biggest single thing
in everyone's life they should find. And
>> I think it's awesome that you found your
purpose. And
>> I'm so grateful.
>> And mine's just to eat pancakes with
people, you know,
>> dude. Heck yeah. That's a purpose, you
know.
>> Dude, pancakes for life, dog.
>> How many calories do you think was in
this entire achievement?
>> Oh god. Okay. I'm actually I'm actually
like sickly good at calorie counting.
>> Oh, I know you are.
>> Um, we ate You ate two Oreos.
>> Yeah. Oh, were you counting up the
actual portions? We were just going to
tally up the total thing.
>> I'm I'm going to do like this, this,
this, and this. It makes
>> Yeah. Yeah. Do it. Do it.
>> So, two, that's 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11.
Every Oreo is 70 calories. I s I sickly
know that.
>> I'm going to say that there's 1,000
calories of Oreos. Mhm.
>> I might be wrong. I think it's actually
Let's go. Let's go. 700. 700 calories of
Oreos. Fries. 600. I might even be low
on that. 650.
>> Hash browns.
>> You got to think about surface area.
>> I know. More oil.
>> This is really thin, though. So, I'm
going to go like 500. Pancakes. 1,000
easily. All right. 2,850 calories total
with the pancakes. And then finally, the
shake.
>> Yeah, we're calculating both shakes in
there.
>> Oh, okay. I'm going to say 550 for for
each. to,00. So I'm going to say there
is 4,000 to 4,500 calories in front of
us. Do you know how much?
>> Yeah, I do. No,
>> you do.
>> 6,200. The big the biggest
underestimation
>> was Oreos.
>> If you think about how much the fry
batter does, just think of like these
could just be individual beignetes and
you would look at that and be like
that's about 700 calories of just fried
dough and then you wrap that around the
600 calories
>> thousand off.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's but it's dude
frying stuff. It Yeah, this absorbed a
lot of oil.
>> Get these away from me, bro.
>> Hey, that's why they're so good.
>> It's about memories, not macros.
>> Memories over macros. Hey, Jesse. Truly,
man. This is incredible. Oh, we're doing
it.
>> And that's making memories over macros.
Hey, man. I had the I think we just kind
of kissed. I think we did. I liked it.
Let's go. What happened? What happens in
the conquer all things locker room stays
in the conquer all things locker room?
Yeah. Out. Jesse, you got anything to
plug?
>> Kissing the homies.
>> Just kiss the homies.
>> Yo, don't forget to kiss your homies
good night and stay relentless.
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