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- I know you're all gonna
come to this restaurant.
Don't blow up our spot.
I know, we're actually
blowing up our spot, right?
- No, I do wanna share the love.
- Yeah. Okay. We're not gonna gatekeep.
- We're not gatekeeping, no.
- Because this is really good.
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- Ola, this is Norma.
- I'm Saqib.
- From Masala y Maiz in Mexico City.
- And this is "Where the Chefs Eat."
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- If you've never been to
Comal Oculto, you have to come.
It's an unmissable spot.
Really delicious,
straightforward Mexican food.
- Super good ingredients, great ethics.
And it's a style of food
that I feel like people,
when they come to visit
the city, they miss it.
- In a city that is getting flooded
by outsiders opening restaurants,
it's really cool to
support a neighborhood spot
that it's done by people
from this neighborhood.
- From the neighborhood.
- Barbara is one of the
co-owners of Comal Oculto,
and we are so excited.
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- [Norma] It's so yummy.
- [Saqib] And they're really talented.
- Mm.
- Look, when you eat in Mexico,
put a little bit of salsa on at a time.
I always make the mistake,
and it's a classic gringo mistake,
to put a lot of salsa on
without tasting it first.
There's an issue in Mexico
City because of the intense
gentrification that's happening, that-
- In certain neighborhoods.
- Some places
in certain neighborhoods,
they're removing the chili from salsas,
- The spice.
- And it's the spice,
so then the salsas don't
have the heat anymore.
So it makes you very happy to eat food
that does have that heat.
- I know you're a red guy.
- Mm, my salsa.
- [Norma] Why do you like red over green?
- I think it reminds me more of desi food
and I grew up eating so much red salsa.
- Mm, I'm gonna argue with that
because wouldn't a green
salsa remind you of
a green chutney?
- Our chutney.
True.
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- I love green because of
the level of acidity that
the materials give to a dish.
Especially when you're
eating Mexican street food.
- Yeah.
- That it's more greasy.
It helps you balance and cut the fat.
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- Yes.
- I'm so sorry
you can't have this.
- I know that looks real good, but this...
- Yeah, this is a-
- The flautas that I've
been dreaming about and waiting
for it to eat again, yes.
- And this is a gordita.
A gordita is like a thick tortilla
that's stuffed with
something, I can't talk,
my mouth is watering.
And this is comfy pork shank, chamorro.
And Barbara said to mix these two salsas.
We have the black
habenero, green molcajete,
and a classic salsa macha.
- Salsa macha.
And I'm having the flautas ahogadas.
Crispy tortillas.
One of 'em is stuffed with
chicken and some casillo,
and the other one is with some potatoes.
Like classic, classic flautas.
And then my salsa's a divorciadas.
So mole and a salsa verde.
And I'm very excited.
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- Mm.
This food is delicious.
We can't even talk.
I think the biggest compliment of a chef
is when people are having a conversation
and then the food arrives to
the table and nobody speaks.
- Mm-hmm.
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- We're at the next stop. Campobaja.
- [Norma] Our favorite seafood
restaurant in Mexico City.
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- We have a deep love
for this spot because
one of our first introductions to it
was during the 2017 earthquake
when Chef Alex and his team
opened the restaurant up as like-
- A hub.
- A hub, yeah,
to gather donations for all the people
affected by the earthquake.
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I'm so excited.
Chef!
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Wow!
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- Okay. I want an oyster.
- I want an oyster too.
- Norma and I met cooking in
the Bay Area in California
and we used to spend so much
time eating oysters together
and it was like one of our
favorite, favorite trips out.
And so getting good oysters
always feels like a treat.
- [Norma] It's super briny,
but sweet at the same time.
- What?
Man, he's spoiling us. What a luxury.
- I'm spoiling you.
- Ah.
Mm. I think we got two lessons from this.
One, shellfish is very good.
And two, I married very well.
[she chuckles]
I'm so happy.
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[tortillas crunch]
- Mm, mm.
Mmm!
- You're dancing.
- Food's so good.
- You know what I love?
I love tuna and avocado.
- Yeah.
- I like cream and cream.
- Perfect Avocado. Perfectly sliced tuna.
Really fatty. Super fresh.
And the ponzo [indistinct]
are yeah, just a plus.
I feel like there's so many versions
of Mexico City Tuna pasteros, but this is-
- This is top.
- This is pretty [beep] good.
- I wish you guys could
be tasting this right now.
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- [Saqib] No, no, no, no, no. Okay.
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- All right, let's switch.
- Okay, I'm gonna switch,
because this,
- This is all you?
- This [indistinct]
- And I'm here
- I'm gonna have a bite
of this too, but this
to me is one of the most
interesting dishes in Mexico City,
is a staple of the house now.
My mouth is watering.
Calamari cooked in what
would be a [speak in Spanish]
It has soy sauce, it has lime.
The potatoes are cooked in dashi
and it has a confit
garlic somewhere in there
that I'm gonna look for it
- To just spread on the toast.
- To spread on the toast.
- There it is.
- [Norma] There it is.
Look at this beauty.
- And what's amazing, like he's
got this upbringing, right,
that grew up with all
these cultures and cuisine
that is both Mexican and so influenced
by so many different Asian cultures
because of immigration policies.
And that is a food that is cooking here.
And there's so few places
you can have that done.
- Oh my God, have that.
- With such effort and care.
- You're a lover of garlic.
- I love excessive
amounts of product.
- And this is what he said to do, is like,
kinda like smash the garlic on the toast,
and then this is like calamare.
- And to be fair, there's not,
there's never an excessive
amount of garlic for me.
- Eh.
- I've cooked her things
where she's like this.
- Because you don't have to smell you
at night.
- She's like,
"This is way too much garlic."
- You have that texture
of really fresh calamari,
perfectly, perfectly cooked,
but the depth of flavor from
the cacahuate con guajillo
it tastes very distinctly Mexican
and not Mexican simultaneously.
All right, I'm ready for it.
- [Norma] Go.
- I love tortillas very
much because they remind me,
so I mean the rotes,
the rotes, I went on a study
abroad program to Mexico,
to know the Mexico.
- [Norma] And got bettered with lard.
- That's debatable.
Because I'm also a good husband.
- Hmm.
- Lobster machaca, cheese.
Perfect roti. [speaks Spanish]
And he said the lobster machaca recipe
is from his grandmother.
- That this is a very homely dish.
This is something that
he would eat at home
and the cheese comes from a ranch in Baja.
So the tortilla's just perfect.
- And it's done with
lobster because seafood,
because it was living on the ocean,
was cheaper to get than meat.
And so they did machaca
- Than beef.
- Machaca with lobster.
Man...
This is really good. [chuckles]
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- [Norma] We have arrived to Tlecan,
our favorite bar in Mexico City.
- This is Ellie Martinez's Kingdom.
She is the queen of Mexicans.
- Queendom.
- Queendom.
Excuse me, queendom.
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- My favorite thing about this bar,
well one of my favorite
things, I love drinking here.
The knowledge and the research
around Mexican spirits
is infinite.
I really appreciate,
you don't see any commercial
brands around the bar.
There is deep, deep research
into direct distillers
and preserving traditions.
There's a lot of small batch things
that you will never be able
to taste anywhere else.
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The queen is here.
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- Whoa.
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- Hmm.
- [Saqib] Whoa.
- I grew up drinking pulque.
Pulque is a Mez-American
drink that is extracted from
a specific type of agave called pulquero.
It's really beautiful. It's an art form.
And for a long time people
didn't wanna drink it
because it was considered
like a poor people drink
and it had that stigma.
Colonizers, when they
were trying to bring wine
and when there was a push
to sell spirits in Mexico,
they demonized pulque.
I see in the later years, a
lot of bartenders and chefs
doing a huge effort to
promote pulque drinking.
- One of the things that we
love about working with Ellie
is that, much like Masala y
Maiz, she puts her team first
and she focuses on the producers,
on the workers, and the quality.
But she's also like one of the
top bartenders in the world.
She has all the awards, like she is
the bartender's bartender.
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She is the queen. The queen
of Mexican distillates.
And when you talk to her,
not only does she have
this wealth of knowledge,
but this generosity to put
everyone front and center.
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Thank you so much for joining us
to some of our favorite
spots in Mexico City.
Good food, good politics,
good sourcing, good stories.
That's what we love about
eating at these spots.
Comal Oculto, Campobaja,
Tlecan, you can't miss it.
- A lot of soul and a lot of love,
it's put into these places.
I hope the next time you're
here, you visit them.
Salut
- Thank you.
Salutita.
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