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For three decades, the music, the dance,

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the King of Pop, the billion-dollar

entertainer.

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And then, at the height of his success,

came the charges, the police

investigation, and a superstar shaken

goes into hiding.

Tonight,

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Michael Jackson, the interview we've

been waiting for, live and for the first

time, [music] the woman he married. Two

legendary families united. Home videos

of the wedding that startled the world.

Lisa Marie Presley, [music]

Michael Jackson, center stage and on the

record.

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Make no mistake about it, for all that

fantasy and flash, Michael Jackson is

serious business. Ask anyone in this

town. Ask the people at Sony Music who

say his next album and videos alone

could bring in close to $1 billion

worldwide.

So, it's not hard to understand why the

shockwave of those allegations two years

ago registered like the last earthquake

out here. Why everyone wants to know, is

he really on his way back?

This is the old MGM set at Sony

Pictures, where all those dreams were

put on film.

Seemed like a good place to begin this

hour because whatever you think about

Michael Jackson Motown

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This is the audition which Michael

Jackson charms, glides, and spins his

family into stardom.

But we've also heard the other side of

this fairy tale. The brothers claim that

their father drove them brutally, beat

them.

This is the man Michael said made him

nauseous with fear.

I didn't know anything about him being

sick but he regurgitated but if he

did regurgitated he he regurgitated all

the way to the bank.

But on stage the little boy felt

invulnerable wielding the voice that

wouldn't change for the next 25 years.

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Even as the singer radically changed.

We sat down a week and a half ago to

talk only about music. We looked at the

Ed Sullivan show, 1970.

He remembers exactly what he was

thinking.

That the whole world was like watching.

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My father used to always say

don't mess up. You know, and

I felt I knew all every part. If and if

something went wrong I felt I could

cover it.

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But by adolescence a private [music]

price was being paid. He said it was

agony when people stared clearly wishing

that he was still that cute little boy.

At the time his [music] mother worried

that he was withdrawing.

Michael's quiet now. When he was younger

he wasn't that quiet. But I don't know.

I think the stage might have done that

to him. Being around you know everyday

people and stuff I feel strange. I do.

Shy? Yeah. 1979, 2020. He told Sylvia

Chase, "People won't let him be just

normal." They won't talk to me like they

would

a next door neighbor.

I wanted to do the five spins then go on

the toes and freeze there and just hold

it and stay there, you know, and I

didn't but

they didn't know.

It's the devil's bargain, a

perfectionist trying to give the

audience more, a chameleon whose changes

are more and more extreme, making you

wonder if it's all still part of his

plan or like Faust, his prison. As even

today, Jackson obsesses

over every word, every move, every

sound. Listen.

Hit it.

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What you're hearing is not an electric

drum machine, it's a hardwired 48-track

digitally mastered human. What I mean so

I'll take that and use that as the main

foundation for the track and build

all the sounds around that. What I'm

saying?

So whatever the future, the music will

always be inside the man who says soon

he'll be back where he's most at home.

Are you really anxious to get back on

stage?

Um

I miss the fans. Yeah. I

That's my chance to get to really, you

know, see them and feel their presence.

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And you do a concert and it's like

100,000 people out there

and you see a sea of people singing

along to your music and holding up

candles and you go, "Wow."

You know, it just really makes your

heart happy and that's what really make

you feel like everything's okay.

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But as we said 2 years ago that shy man

faced some grave accusations that he had

molested a young boy.

As the headlines raged, a lot of people

wondered if what had seemed merely

eccentric was in fact something

sinister.

And the children always around him, were

they lured by a seducer?

The lingering question was, was Michael

Jackson guilty or had he been put

through 2 years of unequaled injustice

and hell?

For parents, a warning, it's an adult

topic.

This was the allegation. A 12-year-old

boy said that over a period of 4 months

while repeatedly sleeping alone in the

same bed with Michael Jackson, there was

kissing, then fondling.

The boy said he had protested but

Jackson had wept saying it was all

right, other boys had done it with him.

That was the allegation. But for the

prosecution, there were problems. The

boy had spoken at the urging of his

father who was also seeking custody.

And the father had talked to the Jackson

camp about money. $20 million according

to the Jackson team. This is that father

talking to someone he knew on tape. If I

go through with this, I win big time.

There's no way that I lose. But whatever

the circumstances of the disclosure,

authorities say they believed the boy's

story.

The investigation of Michael Jackson was

set in motion and within days hit the

airwaves. Tonight, a police

investigation into allegations that

Michael Jackson sexually abused a young

boy. The pop star Michael Jackson under

investigation for alleged child abuse.

It was a tabloid feeding frenzy as

people who worked for Jackson shopped

stories all claiming titillating

knowledge of what they called his

special friends.

And even when some of Jackson's young

friends tried to defend him, they raised

other troubling questions. This an

11-year-old boy, Brett Barnes, talking

to a TV interviewer.

When you'd have sleepovers and you'd

stay in the same room or the same bed,

did that seem unusual to you at all? No.

Cuz I slept on one side of the bed, he

slept on the other, and that was that.

After several months of headlines,

Jackson, on tour and then reportedly in

treatment for addiction to painkillers,

returned to the United States and

submitted to a series of police

photographs. Sources say to see if they

matched his accuser's description of

identifying marks on what authorities

called his private parts.

December 22nd, Jackson went public.

Don't treat me like a criminal cuz I am

innocent.

I have been forced to submit to a

dehumanizing

and humiliating examination by the Santa

Barbara County Sheriff Department and

the Los Angeles Police Department

earlier this week.

They served a search warrant on me which

allowed them to view and photograph my

body including my penis,

my buttocks, my lower torso, thighs, and

any other area that they wanted. One

month later, January 25th, 1994, Michael

Jackson settled the civil suit filed by

his young accuser.

How much? Reportedly in the neighborhood

of 15 to 20 million dollars.

After the settlement, the boy refused to

testify in the criminal case. So, after

13 months of headlines, the prosecutor

said it was over. We must decline

prosecution

involving Mr. Jackson.

They had no other children who would

come forward in court and none of the

employees who claimed to have seen

questionable things had a story that

could be confirmed by a child.

To this day, a number of investigators

remain convinced that glamour and money

are so attractive they can produce

loyalty and silence. While Jackson's

team insists that it ended because

nothing happened in the first place.

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And with me, of course, Michael Jackson

and Lisa Marie Presley. Welcome to

Primetime. Glad you're here.

It occurs to me looking at the two of

you, I have got to start by asking how

this marriage

took place, how it began. Let me guess

that it was not over miniature golf and

a and a hot dog someplace.

When did it start? When was the dating?

Well, we first met. She was 7 years old

and I was 17.

This was in Las Vegas. She used to come

and see my show all the time. We had the

only family show on the strip.

It was the Jackson 5 and um

she used to come as a little girl and

sit right up front. She came quite

often. She came with a lot of

bodyguards.

And had you stayed in touch over all

these years?

Sure. Sure. Then she'd come backstage

and I, you know, talk and say hi. Then

she'd come again.

And I thought she was sweet and loving

and I hope I I always hoped I'd see her

again.

And who first talked about marriage?

We didn't stay in touch after that. We

didn't stay in touch after that, no.

He

He had go ahead. You want to say

what happened?

can say You can say it. You have a good

memory. No, you said you were going to

say it. Our first argument here on this

hour. Um who who proposed? I mean, how

did marriage actually get discussed?

Well, Well, at first, this is what

happened. When she was 18, I used to

tell my lawyer, John Branca, "Do you

know Lisa Marie Presley?" Go, "Well, I

represent her mother." I go, "Well, can

you get in touch with her cuz

I think she's really cute." And he'd

laugh every time.

He goes, "I'll do my best." That's what

he'd say.

Then he'd come back. I said, "Well, did

you find out?" He said, "No, there's

nothing." So, I would worry him about

this all the time. And the next thing I

know, there's a picture on a magazine

cover and where she's married, which

really tore me to pieces.

And then cuz I felt that was supposed to

be me. I really did. And what What was

the countdown to your marriage? Tell me

who said the word marriage first?

He did. When? Where? When? Where?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, on the telephone.

asked me. We were dating now for 4

months. Um

right? 4 months? I don't remember. Well,

anyway, we were spending a lot of time

together. I don't know how it didn't

manage to get in the press cuz we

weren't hiding it.

I was in Las Vegas. We were in Never

mind.

Everywhere. I went to Never mind. We

were in bookstores. We were in

bookstores. We were not hiding it. And

you said yes right away? I was separated

for 4 months, and I said he said, "What

would you do if I asked you

to marry me?" And I said, "I would."

Um A big I would. Oh, you were really

enthu- enthusiastic.

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I have to ask you this because I can

only imagine the number of lawyers

involved in a prenuptial agreement

between these two fortunes.

Is there one?

A careful one? Well, we've worked out

things, and we've signed certain things,

but of course, that's very confidential.

We agree. We made agreements prior, yes.

As you know, the reaction to this

marriage, and I know you feel strongly

about it, but the reaction to this

marriage has been across the spectrum,

everything from astonishment

to delight

to suspicion.

That it was somehow

too convenient.

Lisa, did Did you ask Michael about the

charges?

Did the two of you talk about the impact

of the marriage on the allegations?

Absolutely not. He called I was in touch

with him through the whole process of

this charges going on. I was talking to

him when he disappeared.

I was actually supposed to go to San

Juan, Puerto Rico when

he left and disappeared and I got a call

that he wasn't going to be there and I

was actually part of the whole thing

with him but talking to him on the

phone.

So, I didn't Did you say to him, are

they true? No, I didn't.

No.

I actually did not.

I want to take a minute here and I'm

going to come back to the carriage.

sorry. He He went on and on and on about

it. So, I didn't really have to say, are

the allegations true? It was

you know,

[screaming]

on the phone, you know,

and just constant, yeah.

Well, because I know that you've wanted

to express similar sentiments for a long

time. I want to ask a few things about

the charges but first I want to

establish for the viewers here, there

are no ground rules. You have said to me

you were not afraid of any questions.

So, wanted that understood by everybody

before we proceed.

I think I want to begin

by making sure that the terms are clear.

You have said that you would never harm

a child. I want to be specific as I can.

Did you ever

as this young boy said you did, did you

ever

sexually engage, fondle, have sexual

contact with this child or any other

child? Never, ever. I could never harm a

child or anyone. It's not in my heart.

It's not who I am

and it's not what I meant I'm not even

interested in that. And what do you

think should be done to someone who does

that?

To someone who does that, what I think

it should be done, gee,

I think they need help

in some kind of way,

you know?

How about the police photographs though?

How was there enough information from

this boy about those kinds of things?

The police photographs

Absolutely so. they took of me. There

was nothing that matched me to those

charges.

That's why I'm sitting here talking to

you today. Every There was not one iota

of information that was found that could

connect me So when we've heard that

there was a marking of some kind No

markings. No markings.

No.

Why did you settle

still here then?

You're not going to ask me about that,

are you?

Sorry, about the markings.

You can volunteer. No, I'm just The

point is is that when that finally got

concluded that there was no match up

then it was printed this big as opposed

to how big it was what the match up was

supposed to be. It didn't work. It never

It never It isn't so.

Why did you settle the case then? Why

did you settle the case? And And it

looks to everyone as if you paid a huge

amount of money.

That's Most of that's for silence.

I talked to my lawyers and I said, "Can

you guarantee me that justice will

prevail?" And they said, "Michael, we

cannot guarantee you that a judge or

jury will do anything." And with that, I

was like catatonic. I was outraged.

How much money was it?

Totally outraged. So what I said

I have got to do something to get out

from under this nightmare. All these

lies and all these people coming forward

to get paid and and these tabloid shows

just lies lies lies lies. So what I did,

we got together again with my advisers

and they advised me it was hands down a

unanimous decision resolve the case.

This could be something that could go on

for 7 years. How much money was Let's

get it behind us. Can you say how much?

It's not what the tabloids have printed.

It's not all this crazy outlandish one.

No, it's not at all. I mean, the terms

of the agreement are very confidential.

You are barred to discuss it.

They They

The specific terms

terms The specific amounts The idea is

just isn't fair what they put me through

cuz there wasn't one piece of

information that says I did that in any

way. They turned my room upside down,

went through all my books, all my video

tapes, all my private things, and they

found nothing. Nothing, nothing that can

say Michael Jackson did this. Nothing.

But let me ask you a couple of

questions.

Still, nothing. Let me ask you a couple

Nothing, nothing, nothing. Nothing. I

got nothing.

As you may or may not know, we have

called everyone we can call, we have

checked everything we can check. We have

gone and tried to see if what we heard

before is in fact the case. I want to

ask you about two things.

These reports that we read over and over

again that in your rooms they found

photographs of young boys, Not of young

boys.

of children, all kind of girls and

everything. And that they found

photographs, books, of young boys who

were undressed.

No. Didn't happen. No. Not that I know

of, unless people sent me things that I

haven't opened. People sent People know

my love for children, so they send me

books from all over the world, from

South America, from Germany, from Italy,

from Sweden, So if people say that that

they found those things, if there's an

indication, let them come forward, let

them produce them, right?

Yeah, because I get all I I get all kind

You wouldn't believe the amounts of mail

that I get. And if you say to somebody,

you know, you if I let the fans know I

love Charlie Chaplin, I'll be swarmed in

Charlie Chaplin paraphernalia. One of

the

I say I love children, which I do, they

swarm me with everything pertaining to

kids. Any other settlements

in process now or previously with

children making these kinds of claims?

We have heard that there is one. Not Not

a case that the prosecutors would bring

in court, but that once again, you're

talking about shelling out No, that's

not true. No. No. No, it's not true. I

think I've heard everything is fine and

there are no others.

I guess Let me ask this, and I'm trying

to think how to phrase it, though.

I can hear out in the country

[clears throat]

people saying and and you've been

cleared of all the charges, we want to

make that clear. People saying, "Look,

here is a man who is surrounded by

things that children love. Here is a man

who's spent an inordinate amount of time

with these young boys.

What is a 36-year-old man doing sleeping

with a 12-year-old boy or a series of

them? Right. Okay, when you say boys,

it's not just boys and I've never

invited just boys to come in my room.

Come on, that's ridiculous. That's a

ridiculous question. But I since people

want to hear it,

you know, the answer, I'll be happy to

answer it. I have never invited anyone

into my bed ever. Children love me, I

love them. They follow me. They want to

be with me. But anybody can come in my

bed. Child can come in my bed if they

want.

I can say sorry. I've seen this. I've

seen it a lot. I've seen kids. I've seen

him with children in the last year. I've

seen it enough to where I can see how

that can happen. It's you know, I

understand

Isn't part of being an adult and you

have a two-year-old child?

Two-year-old boy. Yeah, let me just let

me just sorry. I I just wanted to say

that I've seen these children. They

don't let him go to the bathroom without

running in there with him. And they

won't let him out of their sight. So

when he jumps in the bed, I'm even out.

You know, they they jump in the bed with

him. But isn't part of being an adult

and loving children keeping children

from ambiguous

situations?

And again, we're talking about over an

intense period of time here.

Would you

let your son when he grows up

and is 12 years old do that? You know

what? If I if I didn't know who Michael

no way.

But I happen to know who he is and what

he is and that makes it

you know, I know that he's not you know,

I know that he's not like that and I

know he has a thing for children and I

go ahead. Sorry. I just wonder is it

over? You're going to make sure it

doesn't happen again. I think this is

really the thing people want to know

that that there not going to be more of

these sleepovers in which people have to

wonder. Nobody wonders when kids sleep

over at my house. But are they over? Are

you are you going to watch out for it

now?

Watch out for what? for

sake of the children and for everything

you've been through.

it's all moral and it's all pure. I

don't even think that way. It's not

what's in my heart. So, you'll you'll do

it again?

Do what again? I mean, you'll have a

child sleeping over.

They want Yes.

It's on the level of purity and love and

just innocence, complete innocence. If

you're talking about sex, then that's a

nut. That's not me. Go to the guy down

the street cuz it's not Michael Jackson.

It's not what I'm interested in.

Okay, but Elizabeth Taylor talked to us

a little bit about what she saw when she

went over

and talked to you in the middle of this,

what she called agony. And one of the

things she was so I think she was so

angry about with us was that she said

people always talk about one side of a

person. They never give them credit for

their accomplishments, particularly what

they give to children and the money you

give to children. That's how it starts.

When he's on tour,

he goes to hospitals

without the press following him,

without anyone knowing.

He'll get up in a disguise and do it.

Take his disguise off when he's there,

and kids know, "Wow, it's Michael

Jackson."

Was there no point at which you said to

yourself,

reading everything everybody had been

reading,

"Maybe this is true. Maybe I completely

didn't understand who he was." No way.

Absolutely not. Never. Never.

I know Michael's heart.

I know

his mind and his soul.

I'm not that insensitive,

especially to him or people I love. How

did you decide to go to Singapore?

He was my friend.

He was alone. He was totally alone.

And he just uh

he needed help.

Nothing in the world could have hurt him

more. If it had been calculated

if they'd planned an assassination, they

couldn't have done it any better.

It almost

it almost broke his heart.

She says she recognized a friend turning

to painkillers for escape. He wasn't

aware of what was happening. He was

dulling his pain.

But it really frightened me because I

have been there.

And I I know how easy it is to get there

when you're in mental

or physical pain. And

he knew right away that he had to

deal with it, too.

Not right away.

Not right away, but he knew.

There were some reports during this

period, Michael, that it was such agony

for you that you were actually suicidal.

Is that true? I was never suicidal. I

love life too much to ever be suicidal.

I'm resilient. I have rhinoceros skin.

Never, ever suicidal.

Did it leave you

though

Heartbroken, but not suicidal.

Did it leave you changed completely? I

I've talked to you a little bit about

what you're thinking about where you

want to live

in the world. Did it change your view

about living here? You thinking about

living someplace else? I don't care to

stay in America anymore. No.

I I don't care. I I will always have

Neverland, you know, because I I love

Neverland, but I don't like I'm very

sensitive to the smog.

You know, so I can't have the smog.

And uh I would like to go abroad.

Matter of fact, I am.

You are? Yes.

Oh, I haven't decided exact place yet.

Probably South Africa. To live

permanently? Maybe uh Switzerland.

Lisa, are you

just in favor of it? Wait, just going

into the fact that we don't live in

separate houses for to start this

don't even have This is just me

drinking.

with the cameras. Anyway, um Sorry.

No, jump in.

What What do I feel about the overseas

thing? I think that it's a nice place to

visit, yes. I would like to have a a

house over there. Mhm.

I'd be completely and utterly harassed

beyond belief, but

Before we move away from the last 2

years, we told you because we want to

that we are going to show what is really

your comment of those 2 years, and it is

a video you've done with your sister

Janet called Scream. And in it you have

some words for middle-aged people who

can't follow these words.

Uh the words you'll hear will be about

confusion, bashing, victimizing. Stop

pressuring me, he says.

Makes me want to scream the last 2

years.

We have some wedding video of the two of

you, and I'm going to let you tell us a

little bit about what we're seeing here.

If our director Roger Goodman wants to

roll it in, we will take you there a

year ago, right? Just about exactly. I

look like an idiot, I can tell you that.

look like an idiot. You look more like a

No.

Do you want me to tell you watching it?

Tell us.

We're watching.

Tell us we're watching here live.

I do.

From the middle years, he asks for his

autograph.

You know

Thank you more.

Yeah, I did it. All right, but now we're

out of time.

Congratulations. Thank you.

Congratulations, and then we'll then

we'll do the rings, okay? Thanks.

You do? Yes. She He do it.

He does it. question. You put it on her

first, okay? And when you put it you say

with this ring I do it. With this ring I

do it. Right. And you do it the same

thing. When you put his ring as you say

with this ring I do it.

Right now?

So, I know that you Lisa Marie have

wanted to talk about this. There are a

lot of doubters about this marriage.

I've heard that it's a Scientology plan.

You're a member of the Church of

Scientology which is said to influence

its members greatly and that

the husband you divorced was

Scientologist and he's still very much

in your life and this is all part of a

calculation to get Michael and his money

into the church. Mhm.

Do you think It's crap. I'm sorry. It

It's like ridiculous. It's ridiculous.

It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever

heard. I'm not

Um first of all you can't get influenced

by anything

um

like that and and on under a term of a

marriage. Um

I'm not going to marry somebody for any

reason other than the fact that I fell

in love with him. Period. Period. And

they can eat it if they want to think

anything different.

To put it succinctly.

Yeah.

What is it you love the most about him?

Oh. Um what do I love the most about

him?

Everything. Every He's amazing. I really

admire him. I respect him. I admire him.

I'm in love with him.

And no we don't sleep in separate

bedrooms. Thank you very much. And um

I love everything about him. To finish

up on that though, are you a

Scientologist? Are No. No. Plan to

become one? I believe in spirituality

and I believe in a higher source such as

God, but I'm not a Scientologist. I read

everything. I like to read. I love to

study.

You said you don't sleep in separate

bedrooms and I'm going to confess, okay,

this is live TV and I'm copping out

right here because I didn't spend my

life as a serious journalist to ask

these kinds of questions, but I'm not

oblivious to the fact that your fans had

one question they most wanted to ask of

you. Do we have sex? We have you She She

She didn't ask. I don't know. I don't

know. I want to ask. Okay. You don't

know what it was going to be.

Is that what you were going to ask?

Let's play just a minute or two. Sorry.

Let's play one or two. We want to know

if you've done the thing. Michael, I

know that this is an intimate question,

but are you having sex together with

Lisa Marie?

Do you guys really love each other or

you're just doing this to satisfy the

media?

Are you guys intimate?

Again I can't believe it. This is about

the skepticism.

Yes. Yes. Yes. And we have read in the

papers that you are expecting a child.

We will be expecting a child. Now, when

I'm not going to We're not going to say

when. It's in the hands of the heavens,

but not yet. Did we marry out of

convenience? That's really interesting

to me. Really interesting to me. Why?

Well, why wouldn't we have a lot in

common? That's the question. Why? Why

not?

Like we're faking this?

Like No, but you can't live with

somebody day-to-day. We're together all

the time, first of all. Second thing,

how can you fake that 24 hours a day

with somebody, sleeping with somebody,

waking up with somebody, having the

He's running around the house, I'm

running around the house. You were in

our house. We have a normal house. We

have a nanny. We have a maid. And we

walk around and he's either in the

studio, I'm in the kitchen. We're

running around like normal, I know it's

hard to believe, people.

You go shopping together. You

We go shopping. We go out to dinner. We

argue sometimes.

And About what, may I say?

We also heard a report that maybe you

were planning to adopt the children. Oh,

I would love to adopt children. I think

that's something I've always wanted to

do, but children of all races, Arab

children,

Jewish children, black children, it's

all races. But Lisa's children, the

We I love Lisa's children, but it's been

a mission

or

Pardon? To adopt them, though. Oh, I

love her children. They're sweet. But to

adopt, no. Of course.

But he they have a biological father and

he's the he's their I think they love me

very much. I love them.

They do. We have a lot of fun.

never heard of that before personally of

someone adopting someone's children

while they're in a relationship with

that person. We're going to show you a

film now created by Michael Jackson and

it is causing a furor in some movie

theaters around this country. They say

among other things that it is clearly

modeled after Triumph of the Will, Leni

Riefenstahl, a Nazi film It's not true.

None of that's true. None of those

things are true.

Did you watch that film before you did

it? I watch everything.

I love movies. I love documentaries. Had

nothing to do with that at all. But

there are people who keep saying this is

They look at it and say this is

Absolutely not.

You know what?

to do with politics or communism or

fascism well at all. The critics have

said that it's the most boldly vain

glorious self deification of pop singer

ever undertook with a straight face.

Good. That's what I wanted.

For the controversy? [snorts]

Yeah. And for the people who say that

those symbols matter

wanted

I wanted everybody's attention.

But for the people who say those symbols

matter, they're about the suffering

Symbols has nothing to do with that.

It's not political. It's not fascist.

It's not dogma. It's not you know

ideology and all of this stuff. It's

pure simple love. You don't see any

tanks. You don't see any cannons. It's

about love. It's people coming together

about love.

We're going to let everybody watch a bit

of this. Art is art. Okay.

The way a director would use the medium

to create art. Here it come.

[music]

Well, as we said, we're going to clearly

agree to disagree maybe on what this

means to some people watching it.

There's been another issue raised in a

song you say Jew me, sue me, and some

people are saying that that is

anti-Semitic. It's not anti-Semitic

because I'm not a racist person. I could

never be a racist. I love all races of

people from Arabs to Jewish people, like

I said before, to blacks. But when I say

Jew me, sue me, everybody do me, kick

me, kike me, don't you black or white

me, I'm talking about myself as the

victim.

You know, my my accountant and lawyers

are Jewish. My three best friends are

Jewish, David Geffen, Jeffrey

Katzenberg, Steven Spielberg, Mike

Milken. These are friends of mine.

They're all Jewish. So, how does that

make sense? I was raised in a Jewish

community. I want to ask you both about

something cuz it was the second most

asked question by people on the street.

And I know I know it's a sensitive issue

for you and you talked with Oprah about

it, but somehow people still are not

They don't feel they've heard everything

about

the whiteness of your skin and that it's

not somehow a choice on your part along

with the makeup to be is it to be

neither black or white neither

to look completely male to be in the

androgynous zone.

I I think they want to know it is a

decision on your part some way.

The way you look. Where does it come

from?

I think it creates itself, nature.

He's He's an artist. He has every right

and he's constantly remodifying

something or changing it or

reconstructing it or you know, working

on some imperfection that he thinks

needs to be worked on. If he sees

something he doesn't like, he changes

it. Period. He re-sculpted himself. He's

an artist.

I might want to put a red dot right

there one day.

But two eyes right here. Do you wish you

were

the color you were again? Do I wish I

was the color again?

that. I loved I love black.

Do you wish you were that way?

I envy her cuz she can tan and I can't.

One more question I want to make sure I

ask. Are you going to sing together? No,

the I would love to sing with you.

Would you like to sing with me?

sing? I don't sing. I I did sing, but

that's not why I married Michael.

Um I don't need that. That's ridiculous.

If I wanted it I mean, I'm not going to

marry someone for a recording career

just to clear that up as well.

Um

What?

Stop.

And as our ends, I'd like to just ask

each of you for a one-sentence answer.

Time's so short.

Where do you want to be in 5 years?

Oh boy, uh I love what I'm doing now and

to do everything I can to help the

children. And hello Bobby Sherrod.

I just want people to know what they're

dealing with before and understand that

I'm not the, you know, that we are not

the jokes, the degrading comments, all

that kind of stuff. It's really

irritating. So I didn't get to get into

that. This is over already, but um stuff

We want to choke them.

All right. So 5 years from

believe the garbage. All the tabloid

junk. Don't read it. Don't listen to it.

It's garbage. It's junk. It's stupid.

And so enough of it. And tonight is

over.

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