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It's hard to create 00:00
rules or maxims or principles around 00:02
creative collaboration. The chemistry of 00:05
it is so specific to each scenario, you 00:08
know? I mean, I've made 00:10
I've made like 50 films, and I'm not 00:12
sure that there's a single methodology 00:15
for creating a 00:17
an ef- an effective or positive 00:19
collaboration. Different people work in 00:21
very different ways. You know, you need 00:23
you need leadership in the sense that 00:25
you need someone who almost 00:27
creates the 00:30
the frame in which you're inside which 00:32
you're all working and 00:34
articulates 00:36
the goals and articulates in some sense 00:38
if there are principles or values 00:42
that you want to work within. 00:46
I think people are actually very 00:48
adaptable, very malleable, and can get 00:49
excited about lots of ways of working, 00:52
but I do think leadership is sometimes 00:55
about 00:59
getting people tuned into the same 01:00
frequency 01:01
at the front end so that you can get 01:03
the you know, um I don't want to say 01:05
happiest, but you can get a effective 01:07
collaboration. 01:10
I've had certain creative experiences 01:15
that 01:16
were really inspiring. I I mean, working 01:17
with someone like 01:19
Alejandro Iñárritu on Birdman, where he 01:21
analogized to the process before we even 01:24
started to uh 01:27
Philippe Petit walking on the the the 01:29
wire between the World Trade Centers 01:31
without a net. He He established that it 01:33
was going to be risky, that the idea of 01:36
a film in one take might not succeed, 01:39
but that it was worth going for, that 01:42
that putting ourselves out 01:44
into a position where there wasn't a 01:46
workaround was going to produce 01:49
something interesting. And he And I 01:51
think he got he got everybody pulled 01:52
together around the idea of creative 01:55
risk taking. 01:57
Olivia Wilde did that really recently on 01:59
this film The Invitation that we did. 02:01
She 02:03
She used a phrase I love. She said, 02:04
"We're going to stitch the parachute on 02:05
the way down 02:07
with the faith that it's going to open." 02:08
And I think what she meant in that case 02:10
is that she was willing to set out on 02:12
the journey 02:14
without knowing what the the end of the 02:16
story was going to be that we were going 02:18
to find 02:20
that we were going to actually find the 02:21
end of the story and route to making it 02:22
that she kind of gave us a scenario. She 02:25
asked us to bring our own ideas about 02:28
our characters into the mix and 02:31
permitted us to not know precisely where 02:33
we were going. 02:36
Instead of uncertainty, it turned it 02:38
into discovery. You know, and discovery 02:40
is fun and vital and feels alive and you 02:43
could take the same set of circumstances 02:48
and if everybody feels like you know, 02:49
insecure or I don't know what we're 02:52
doing or aren't we supposed to know what 02:54
we're doing, 02:55
it has a very different feedback loop 02:57
that gets created. So, you can have the 02:59
same scenario and the way that you frame 03:01
it 03:03
to people can make it a positive an 03:04
emotional positive versus an emotional 03:07
negative. 03:08
A good leader I think communi- 03:10
communicates the rules of engagement, 03:11
communicates the modality that you're 03:13
going to work in because then people can 03:15
say themselves, "Oh, that's what we're 03:17
supposed to feel uncertain. Feeling 03:19
uncertain is good." 03:21
>> I mean, why don't you try it? I'll put 03:50
it in I'll come in in the night. 03:51
We'll put them in. We'll put them in for 03:53
free. 03:55
And if you don't like it, you know, 03:56
we'll take it away. 03:57
Um we'll we'll we'll take it away and 03:58
you know, what have you what have you 04:01
got to lose? And people would sort of 04:02
say, "Okay." And as soon as he 04:03
And I I mean, I love the image of Mike 04:06
Bloomberg in with carpet, you know, 04:07
pulling up carpets and getting cables 04:09
run and putting his early terminals in. 04:12
But he said once they got on it, then 04:15
they 04:16
then they would then they never gave it 04:17
up, you know, and that and today people 04:19
still people are addicted to their 04:21
Bloomberg terminal data feeds. But I I 04:23
think that 04:25
if you can frame up like an idea you 04:27
have as something that can be tried, you 04:29
know, at like like almost like the what 04:32
have you got to lose, you know, or what 04:35
have we got to lose? 04:37
It's it's not always going to work, but 04:38
it's not a bad pitch. Like the idea of 04:40
saying, "Hey, will you let me run with 04:42
this for a minute and and in a sense 04:44
prove it to you." 04:46
When I've worked with directors who are 04:47
tight, 04:49
um 04:51
who have in some sense 04:53
a video tape in their head of the way 04:55
something's going to go, 04:57
you know, the great thing about film is 04:59
just like we're doing here, you can do 05:01
takes, right? And it's like, "Why don't 05:02
you just let me 05:04
I I used to use the line like if someone 05:06
was really giving me friction around an 05:07
idea 05:09
I had about a way to play something, I'd 05:10
just say, "Look, you know, 05:12
let me have a few. Just just give me a 05:14
few to just run an idea. 05:16
And when I'm done with the idea, then, 05:19
you know, if I did black and you want 05:22
white, then come in and say, 05:23
"Great, we've got black. Can I have 05:26
white?" And you know, and I've already 05:28
get I've I've tried my idea. Great, 05:30
let's try another one, you know, let's 05:32
try something else. Um 05:33
I like to I mean, I like to put the full 05:35
force 05:37
of whatever my capabilities are behind 05:38
any idea because it's it's a fun 05:40
exercise. But sometimes, um 05:43
sometimes I've even as an actor I've 05:47
asked for sort of just enough rope 05:49
just enough rope to tease an idea out 05:52
before you you you you shut it down. And 05:55
usually And again, usually if you put it 05:56
to someone that way 05:58
and they realize that all you're giving 05:59
them is options, then maybe you can get 06:01
someone's 06:03
someone who's negatively micro-managing 06:06
can be encouraged to 06:09
to see it as positive optionality for 06:13
themselves. 06:15
I've almost never started any enterprise 06:20
by myself. I mean, you can't in film. 06:23
I've written things 06:25
but every business I've ever started 06:27
I've done it with partners. Not people I 06:29
hired who were good, but with with 06:31
partners. Like 06:33
to me like 1 + 1 + 1 = 10 is like 06:35
has always been a winning formula. I 06:38
val- you know, I value partners 06:41
intrinsically and I think I've been 06:43
pretty good at picking them. I think you 06:44
know, you have to pick your partners 06:47
really carefully and I've been really 06:48
really lucky. I've worked with and I've 06:50
worked with a number of people on 06:52
multiple enterprises because my 06:54
experience was so good and we wanted to 06:55
do it again. 06:57
And that's true. Certainly in 06:58
filmmaking, you build you build 06:59
people who you're like, "Oh man, I I 07:03
don't ever want to go to battle again 07:05
without her on props or without him on 07:07
production design or without you know, I 07:11
mean, you you build your team. You build 07:14
a team that you can 07:16
uh but but then other times you look at 07:18
the bespoke needs of a project and you 07:20
know 07:21
you're looking for someone with a real 07:23
specific 07:24
set of skills. It's funny, I mean, it's 07:26
2026 but I still think conversation 07:29
we're still people and the fastest way 07:32
to determine whether 07:33
you vibe with someone is it's to ask 07:35
questions. 07:38
Um 07:40
you know, I mean, it's funny. One thing 07:42
I've kind of learned over time is 07:43
obviously I can be 07:44
I'm I I I can say what I think about a 07:46
thing, but if you're really trying to 07:49
recruit people and you're trying to 07:51
figure out is this the right person for 07:52
me? Sometimes you got really got to 07:54
learn to when to shut up. You know what 07:55
I mean? And and and in a way make sure 07:57
that you know, you leave the space open 07:59
and see how other people fill the space 08:03
cuz it's really the only way you're 08:06
going to learn 08:07
what they've got, you know? I mean 08:09
anybody can sort of yes you if you over 08:11
explain what you're looking for. I think 08:14
if you 08:16
if you if you [music] 08:18
leave a lot of empty space, you'll see 08:19
what someone else fills it with and 08:21
you'll learn a lot more. 08:23

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[English]
It's hard to create
rules or maxims or principles around
creative collaboration. The chemistry of
it is so specific to each scenario, you
know? I mean, I've made
I've made like 50 films, and I'm not
sure that there's a single methodology
for creating a
an ef- an effective or positive
collaboration. Different people work in
very different ways. You know, you need
you need leadership in the sense that
you need someone who almost
creates the
the frame in which you're inside which
you're all working and
articulates
the goals and articulates in some sense
if there are principles or values
that you want to work within.
I think people are actually very
adaptable, very malleable, and can get
excited about lots of ways of working,
but I do think leadership is sometimes
about
getting people tuned into the same
frequency
at the front end so that you can get
the you know, um I don't want to say
happiest, but you can get a effective
collaboration.
I've had certain creative experiences
that
were really inspiring. I I mean, working
with someone like
Alejandro Iñárritu on Birdman, where he
analogized to the process before we even
started to uh
Philippe Petit walking on the the the
wire between the World Trade Centers
without a net. He He established that it
was going to be risky, that the idea of
a film in one take might not succeed,
but that it was worth going for, that
that putting ourselves out
into a position where there wasn't a
workaround was going to produce
something interesting. And he And I
think he got he got everybody pulled
together around the idea of creative
risk taking.
Olivia Wilde did that really recently on
this film The Invitation that we did.
She
She used a phrase I love. She said,
"We're going to stitch the parachute on
the way down
with the faith that it's going to open."
And I think what she meant in that case
is that she was willing to set out on
the journey
without knowing what the the end of the
story was going to be that we were going
to find
that we were going to actually find the
end of the story and route to making it
that she kind of gave us a scenario. She
asked us to bring our own ideas about
our characters into the mix and
permitted us to not know precisely where
we were going.
Instead of uncertainty, it turned it
into discovery. You know, and discovery
is fun and vital and feels alive and you
could take the same set of circumstances
and if everybody feels like you know,
insecure or I don't know what we're
doing or aren't we supposed to know what
we're doing,
it has a very different feedback loop
that gets created. So, you can have the
same scenario and the way that you frame
it
to people can make it a positive an
emotional positive versus an emotional
negative.
A good leader I think communi-
communicates the rules of engagement,
communicates the modality that you're
going to work in because then people can
say themselves, "Oh, that's what we're
supposed to feel uncertain. Feeling
uncertain is good."
>> I mean, why don't you try it? I'll put
it in I'll come in in the night.
We'll put them in. We'll put them in for
free.
And if you don't like it, you know,
we'll take it away.
Um we'll we'll we'll take it away and
you know, what have you what have you
got to lose? And people would sort of
say, "Okay." And as soon as he
And I I mean, I love the image of Mike
Bloomberg in with carpet, you know,
pulling up carpets and getting cables
run and putting his early terminals in.
But he said once they got on it, then
they
then they would then they never gave it
up, you know, and that and today people
still people are addicted to their
Bloomberg terminal data feeds. But I I
think that
if you can frame up like an idea you
have as something that can be tried, you
know, at like like almost like the what
have you got to lose, you know, or what
have we got to lose?
It's it's not always going to work, but
it's not a bad pitch. Like the idea of
saying, "Hey, will you let me run with
this for a minute and and in a sense
prove it to you."
When I've worked with directors who are
tight,
um
who have in some sense
a video tape in their head of the way
something's going to go,
you know, the great thing about film is
just like we're doing here, you can do
takes, right? And it's like, "Why don't
you just let me
I I used to use the line like if someone
was really giving me friction around an
idea
I had about a way to play something, I'd
just say, "Look, you know,
let me have a few. Just just give me a
few to just run an idea.
And when I'm done with the idea, then,
you know, if I did black and you want
white, then come in and say,
"Great, we've got black. Can I have
white?" And you know, and I've already
get I've I've tried my idea. Great,
let's try another one, you know, let's
try something else. Um
I like to I mean, I like to put the full
force
of whatever my capabilities are behind
any idea because it's it's a fun
exercise. But sometimes, um
sometimes I've even as an actor I've
asked for sort of just enough rope
just enough rope to tease an idea out
before you you you you shut it down. And
usually And again, usually if you put it
to someone that way
and they realize that all you're giving
them is options, then maybe you can get
someone's
someone who's negatively micro-managing
can be encouraged to
to see it as positive optionality for
themselves.
I've almost never started any enterprise
by myself. I mean, you can't in film.
I've written things
but every business I've ever started
I've done it with partners. Not people I
hired who were good, but with with
partners. Like
to me like 1 + 1 + 1 = 10 is like
has always been a winning formula. I
val- you know, I value partners
intrinsically and I think I've been
pretty good at picking them. I think you
know, you have to pick your partners
really carefully and I've been really
really lucky. I've worked with and I've
worked with a number of people on
multiple enterprises because my
experience was so good and we wanted to
do it again.
And that's true. Certainly in
filmmaking, you build you build
people who you're like, "Oh man, I I
don't ever want to go to battle again
without her on props or without him on
production design or without you know, I
mean, you you build your team. You build
a team that you can
uh but but then other times you look at
the bespoke needs of a project and you
know
you're looking for someone with a real
specific
set of skills. It's funny, I mean, it's
2026 but I still think conversation
we're still people and the fastest way
to determine whether
you vibe with someone is it's to ask
questions.
Um
you know, I mean, it's funny. One thing
I've kind of learned over time is
obviously I can be
I'm I I I can say what I think about a
thing, but if you're really trying to
recruit people and you're trying to
figure out is this the right person for
me? Sometimes you got really got to
learn to when to shut up. You know what
I mean? And and and in a way make sure
that you know, you leave the space open
and see how other people fill the space
cuz it's really the only way you're
going to learn
what they've got, you know? I mean
anybody can sort of yes you if you over
explain what you're looking for. I think
if you
if you if you [music]
leave a lot of empty space, you'll see
what someone else fills it with and
you'll learn a lot more.

Key Vocabulary

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Vocabulary Meanings

maxim

/ˈmæksɪm/

C2
  • noun
  • - a short statement expressing a general truth or rule of conduct

methodology

/ˌmeθəˈdɒlədʒi/

C1
  • noun
  • - a system of methods used in a particular area of study or activity

articulate

/ɑːˈtɪkjuleɪt/

C1
  • verb
  • - to express an idea or feeling fluently and coherently

malleable

/ˈmæliəbl/

C2
  • adjective
  • - easily influenced; pliable; able to be shaped

analogized

/ˈænələˌdaɪzd/

C1
  • verb
  • - to make a comparison between two things

uncertainty

/ʌnˈsɜːrtnti/

B2
  • noun
  • - the state of being unsure or lacking certainty

vital

/ˈvaɪtl/

B2
  • adjective
  • - absolutely necessary or important; essential

modality

/moʊˈdæləti/

C2
  • noun
  • - a particular mode in which something exists or is experienced

bespoke

/bɪˈspoʊk/

C1
  • adjective
  • - made to order; custom-made

intrinsically

/ɪnˈtrɪnzɪkli/

C1
  • adverb
  • - in an essential or natural way

enterprise

/ˈentərpraɪz/

B2
  • noun
  • - a project or undertaking, typically one that is difficult or requires effort

optionality

/ˌɒpʃəˈnæləti/

C2
  • noun
  • - the state of having choices or options available

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Key Grammar Structures

  • I'm not sure that there's a single methodology for creating an effective or positive collaboration.

    ➔ Existential 'there is' with complex noun phrases

    ➔ Used to assert the existence (or lack thereof) of a concept in a professional context.

  • You need someone who almost creates the frame in which you're inside which you're all working.

    ➔ Relative clauses with prepositions (preposition stranding vs. pied-piping)

    ➔ The phrase 'in which' is a formal way to link the environment to the action.

  • He established that it was going to be risky.

    ➔ Future in the past (was going to)

    ➔ Describes a plan or prediction made from a perspective in the past.

  • She was willing to set out on the journey without knowing what the end of the story was going to be.

    ➔ Adjective + infinitive (willing to) + gerund after preposition

    ➔ 'Willing to' expresses readiness, and 'without knowing' uses a gerund after a preposition.

  • Instead of uncertainty, it turned it into discovery.

    ➔ Phrasal verb 'turn into' + noun

    ➔ Used to describe a process of transformation from one state to another.

  • If you don't like it, we'll take it away.

    ➔ First Conditional (If + present, will + infinitive)

    ➔ Used for real, likely future possibilities.

  • I've almost never started any enterprise by myself.

    ➔ Present perfect with adverbs of frequency

    ➔ Connects life experiences up to the present moment.

  • The fastest way to determine whether you vibe with someone is to ask questions.

    ➔ Superlative adjective + infinitive as subject complement

    ➔ Uses a superlative to focus on the most effective strategy.

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