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blacksburg virginia is this pretty small 00:32
town 00:35
surrounded by rural areas it's kinda out 00:35
there 00:38
and the people who live in blacksburg 00:39
thirty thousand of them are college 00:41
students at virginia tech university 00:43
and just 15 000 are permanent residents 00:44
what this community has to offer is that 00:48
small town living 00:50
where you know your neighbors where you 00:51
have easy access to services 00:53
not a lot of traffic kim thurlow works 00:56
on housing initiatives for the town of 00:59
blacksburg 01:00
and she says homes there are flying off 01:01
the shelf right now 01:04
so average days on market for a for sale 01:05
home 01:09
is less than one right now less than one 01:09
day 01:12
less than one day kim says there are 01:13
just about 27 01:15
homes for sale in blacksburg right now 01:16
and 10 of those homes haven't even been 01:18
built yet so 01:21
there's just very little housing stock 01:21
at any given time 01:24
and that is causing a rise in prices and 01:25
it's 01:28
causing a bidding war kim says the 01:28
median income for blacksburg is 01:31
89 000 and making that she says you 01:33
could afford to buy like a 01:36
270 000 home but homes are going for 01:37
much more than that the average home 01:41
being sold 01:44
for new construction was 435 000 01:45
in blacksburg we're like we're 01:49
reaching the half a million mark here 01:52
yep 01:54
wow yep that's depressing it is a bunch 01:55
of homes in 01:58
tiny blacksburg are going for over a 01:59
million even 02:01
all over the u.s the small towns the 02:02
rural areas the big coastal cities 02:04
home prices are going up and up and 02:07
there's a simple reason 02:09
there just aren't enough homes for 02:10
everyone who wants one 02:12
do you see the housing shortage ending 02:16
anytime soon not in the next decade 02:20
not in the next decade like 20 31 02:23
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overpriced house now's the time to do it 03:55
now in a healthy housing market you'd 03:57
have about 03:59
six months of housing supply but 04:00
according to a report last month from 04:03
harvard 04:04
there's currently less than two months 04:05
of housing supply in the u.s which is 04:07
very very tight by historic standards we 04:10
are talking record low 04:12
inventory there are just over a million 04:13
homes for sale 04:16
which is 3.8 million homes short 04:17
of what we need to meet demand so why 04:20
aren't there more homes for sale 04:23
the first big reason kind of does come 04:25
down to a battle between generations 04:27
baby boomers versus millennials boomers 04:30
are in the late 50s 60s and 70s so some 04:32
of them are retired but many of them are 04:35
still working 04:36
and boomers are a huge generation 04:37
millennials are in their 20s and 30s 04:39
some are even 40. 04:41
right so millennials are in like their 04:43
prime 04:45
home buying years and they're an even 04:46
huger generation and they are ready 04:48
to buy homes but there's a problem 04:50
boomers kinda own too many of the homes 04:54
right now 04:58
they have the biggest share of real 04:59
estate wealth in the us 44 05:01
of it even though they're just 28 05:02
of the adult population so this chapter 05:06
are boomers the problems 05:10
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all right here's what previous 05:15
generations did they got older 05:16
and they sold their homes they moved in 05:18
with their kids or to a nursing facility 05:20
or 05:22
they downsized to like a little condo or 05:22
whatever but boomers 05:24
are not doing that they are choosing to 05:26
grow old 05:28
in their homes so some people are like 05:29
sell your homes already boomers 05:32
make room in the market for the next 05:33
generation but 05:35
not everyone feels this way so quran 05:37
you're here to basically defend baby 05:40
boomers they're not 05:42
who we should blame for our housing 05:44
supply shortage 05:46
yes i think it's very very unfair maybe 05:47
boomer generation is just not 05:50
creating the housing shortage quran call 05:52
is a housing supply specialist at the 05:54
urban institute 05:56
housing shortage problem is a 05:57
multi-pronged problem can i ask if 05:58
you're a baby boomer i'm not you're not 06:01
okay 06:03
i just had to ask karan says there's a 06:04
few reasons boomers aren't selling their 06:06
homes 06:08
for one thing they're healthier than 06:09
previous generations so many don't need 06:10
to move in with their kids or into a 06:12
nursing home 06:14
also boomers don't want to move they 06:15
like their grocery store 06:17
their friends their social activities 06:19
they want to stay where the action is 06:22
yeah i mean the baby boomer generation 06:24
they're 06:27
you know they're in their 60s and their 06:27
70s they're not like 80s and 90s right 06:28
like 06:31
many of them are still working it it's 06:32
sort of i mean it makes sense that they 06:34
are not ready to sell their homes 06:36
because they still have a lot of life 06:38
left to live 06:39
oh yeah absolutely and people are you 06:40
know they're living longer 06:42
uh their their health is in better shape 06:44
and those are all good things and you 06:46
should we should celebrate those things 06:48
you know we can't force people to you 06:50
know move out and live in places 06:52
uh where they don't want to live we just 06:55
need to 06:57
find more housing for younger folks and 06:58
quran says even if those healthy boomers 07:01
did choose to sell their homes down and 07:03
downsize to a condo 07:04
they'd still need to find some other 07:06
place to live they probably just buy a 07:07
different home 07:10
and you might think like well they could 07:11
just become renters but if they do that 07:13
then you just create 07:15
more demand for rental housing and rents 07:16
will go up 07:18
even more than they already have and on 07:19
top of that people don't usually go 07:20
from being homeowners to renters the 07:23
point of 07:26
all of this is if you just reallocate 07:26
people from one type of housing to 07:30
another 07:32
you're not solving the problem in the 07:33
long run the problem is we have 07:35
more people wanting to live in homes 07:38
than we have homes 07:40
the obvious answer is build more homes 07:42
right 07:44
if there weren't enough peaches in the 07:45
u.s we'd grow more peaches if there 07:46
weren't enough tvs we'd make more tvs or 07:48
at least 07:50
you know china would make more tvs right 07:51
so we should make 07:53
more housing we should build more 07:54
housing but 07:56
we can't and this is where things maybe 07:57
do 08:00
come back to the boomers a little bit 08:01
i'd say the the one area where 08:03
we can kind of point the finger at 08:06
boomers is that they have tended 08:08
not to allow change in their 08:10
neighborhoods 08:12
chapter two 08:14
still a little boomery but really in the 08:17
end we're all boomers 08:19
jenny schutz is an economist at the 08:23
brookings institution 08:25
and she says baby boomers have tended to 08:26
block new housing developments 08:28
they haven't really wanted anything in 08:30
their neighborhoods other than 08:31
stand-alone 08:32
single-family homes yeah i mean i i 08:34
blame them more for their political 08:36
behavior for an opposing new development 08:38
than for wanting to live in their houses 08:41
and asian place 08:43
remember when we said boomers aren't 08:44
moving into smaller condos when they get 08:46
older 08:48
well there actually aren't that many 08:48
condos for them to move into 08:50
you literally can't add more homes to a 08:52
neighborhood 08:55
because the older residents who live 08:56
there won't let us build it 08:57
listen this is totally rational behavior 08:59
you buy a house 09:01
it's in your interest for there to be 09:02
fewer houses around you 09:04
that makes the value of your home go up 09:06
and homeowners have a say in what kinds 09:09
of homes get built 09:11
and where because these decisions are 09:12
all made at the local level by 09:14
city councils and county supervisors so 09:16
a developer will tell a city 09:18
i want to build a new apartment complex 09:20
on this corner and 09:22
existing residents jenny says usually 09:23
homeowners who tend to be white tend to 09:26
be male 09:28
and are older will say i don't want it 09:28
it's going to change the feel of my 09:31
neighborhood it's going to bring traffic 09:33
or 09:34
schools are already overcrowded whatever 09:35
they oppose it and 09:37
local officials side with them so we 09:38
know that this happens 09:41
you know replicated over and over in 09:42
neighborhoods across the country 09:45
but collectively then that means we're 09:47
not building enough housing in the 09:49
places where people want to live 09:51
well what about like what about the city 09:52
council members though like why do they 09:54
listen to older constituents 09:56
so much yeah so city council members and 10:00
mayors and county supervisors are also 10:03
homeowners 10:05
and they tend to be older too so their 10:06
personal experience is a lot closer 10:09
to the homeowners who are saying don't 10:11
change my neighborhood 10:13
they're part of the generation that's 10:14
pushing back i'm curious do 10:16
do we all just become baby boomers and 10:19
act like baby boomers and 10:22
the older we get we just end up blocking 10:24
new housing it does seem to be true that 10:26
once people buy 10:28
houses they become a lot more resistant 10:29
to change in their neighborhoods i mean 10:31
they say that we become our parents as 10:33
we get older 10:35
that's probably true all right so 10:36
blocking new housing 10:38
goes way back of course stems from 10:40
racism and redlining 10:42
and policies meant to prevent black 10:43
people from buying in white 10:45
neighborhoods so boomers did not 10:47
invent blocking new development but 10:49
their opposition to 10:51
more housing and different kinds of 10:53
housing has led to some 10:55
really hard to undo zoning laws 10:57
oh yeah it's illegal to build anything 11:00
other than a single family detached 11:02
house 11:04
on the majority of land even in big 11:05
cities across the country 11:07
so in most of the us you are not allowed 11:09
to have town houses or duplexes or 11:11
triplexes or mobile homes 11:13
no apartments no condos no tiny homes no 11:15
granny flats in most 11:17
of the us and pretty much everyone 11:19
agrees we cannot get out of the housing 11:21
crisis 11:23
without changing some of these zoning 11:24
laws and 11:26
kind of amazingly jenny says some of 11:27
these zoning laws are starting to change 11:29
minneapolis just decided to allow 11:32
duplexes and triplexes 11:34
oregon now allows duplexes same with 11:36
raleigh in north carolina 11:38
it sounds so weird to hear oh north 11:40
carolina has made it legal to build 11:43
duplex like why 11:45
why has it not been legal to build a 11:47
duplex that's exactly the question why 11:48
did we ban 11:50
most forms of housing on most land and 11:51
yes some places are starting 11:54
to unban other forms of housing but even 11:56
in those places 11:58
there still aren't enough houses the 12:00
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into the construction trades 14:13
there may not be a job here for you 14:15
right so the construction trades are 14:17
things where you go in as an apprentice 14:18
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electrician carpenter so we lost kind of 14:26
a whole 14:29
cohort of people going into the 14:30
construction trades 14:31
that takes a long time to fix so now 14:33
we're in a situation where we need to 14:35
build 14:37
more homes fast but there's not enough 14:37
skilled people to do it 14:40
kim thurlow the housing manager in 14:41
blacksburg who we heard from at the 14:42
beginning of the show 14:44
she called it a trades crisis she's 14:45
dealing with it right now 14:47
we are really lacking skilled trades in 14:48
our area 14:51
so we are having to pull on contractors 14:52
and subcontractors 14:55
from outside of our region which just 14:57
increased 15:00
the cost overall for the development 15:00
they also have to wait a lot for 15:03
plumbers and electricians and carpenters 15:04
to be free 15:07
and ready to work so that adds to the 15:08
costs and for kim this comes down to 15:10
something else which is that for decades 15:12
students were encouraged to go to 15:15
college and get white-collar jobs not go 15:16
into the trades 15:19
and it's not true that trades 15:20
will make less money than many white 15:23
collar jobs 15:26
i can tell you that right now in this 15:28
community so 15:30
like a lot of places around the country 15:31
blacksburg is now trying to get people 15:33
to go into the construction trades again 15:35
they have an initiative to help offer 15:37
community college for free to people 15:39
going into the trades 15:40
but it's going to take some time it's 15:42
going to take a decade 15:44
to try and reverse that issue a bunch of 15:46
experts agree 15:49
it will take years to catch up we just 15:50
won't be able to build 15:52
enough homes fast enough so millennials 15:54
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blacksburg virginia is this pretty small
town
surrounded by rural areas it's kinda out
there
and the people who live in blacksburg
thirty thousand of them are college
students at virginia tech university
and just 15 000 are permanent residents
what this community has to offer is that
small town living
where you know your neighbors where you
have easy access to services
not a lot of traffic kim thurlow works
on housing initiatives for the town of
blacksburg
and she says homes there are flying off
the shelf right now
so average days on market for a for sale
home
is less than one right now less than one
day
less than one day kim says there are
just about 27
homes for sale in blacksburg right now
and 10 of those homes haven't even been
built yet so
there's just very little housing stock
at any given time
and that is causing a rise in prices and
it's
causing a bidding war kim says the
median income for blacksburg is
89 000 and making that she says you
could afford to buy like a
270 000 home but homes are going for
much more than that the average home
being sold
for new construction was 435 000
in blacksburg we're like we're
reaching the half a million mark here
yep
wow yep that's depressing it is a bunch
of homes in
tiny blacksburg are going for over a
million even
all over the u.s the small towns the
rural areas the big coastal cities
home prices are going up and up and
there's a simple reason
there just aren't enough homes for
everyone who wants one
do you see the housing shortage ending
anytime soon not in the next decade
not in the next decade like 20 31
fun right hello and welcome to planet
money i'm sarah gonzalez
and i'm erica barris today's national
housing supply shortage has actually
been decades in the making
today on the show three big reasons for
the housing shortage
and why it's gonna take so long to solve
it a lot of people
blame baby boomers but is it really
their fault
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question that's a great question this is
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thank you for asking me that god that's
such a good question that's an
interesting question
but what fresh air interviews are really
about are the interesting answers
listen and subscribe to fresh air from
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and npr
one of the reasons there's so much
interest in housing right now is because
interest rates are historically low
so if you can afford to buy an
overpriced house now's the time to do it
now in a healthy housing market you'd
have about
six months of housing supply but
according to a report last month from
harvard
there's currently less than two months
of housing supply in the u.s which is
very very tight by historic standards we
are talking record low
inventory there are just over a million
homes for sale
which is 3.8 million homes short
of what we need to meet demand so why
aren't there more homes for sale
the first big reason kind of does come
down to a battle between generations
baby boomers versus millennials boomers
are in the late 50s 60s and 70s so some
of them are retired but many of them are
still working
and boomers are a huge generation
millennials are in their 20s and 30s
some are even 40.
right so millennials are in like their
prime
home buying years and they're an even
huger generation and they are ready
to buy homes but there's a problem
boomers kinda own too many of the homes
right now
they have the biggest share of real
estate wealth in the us 44
of it even though they're just 28
of the adult population so this chapter
are boomers the problems
[Applause]
all right here's what previous
generations did they got older
and they sold their homes they moved in
with their kids or to a nursing facility
or
they downsized to like a little condo or
whatever but boomers
are not doing that they are choosing to
grow old
in their homes so some people are like
sell your homes already boomers
make room in the market for the next
generation but
not everyone feels this way so quran
you're here to basically defend baby
boomers they're not
who we should blame for our housing
supply shortage
yes i think it's very very unfair maybe
boomer generation is just not
creating the housing shortage quran call
is a housing supply specialist at the
urban institute
housing shortage problem is a
multi-pronged problem can i ask if
you're a baby boomer i'm not you're not
okay
i just had to ask karan says there's a
few reasons boomers aren't selling their
homes
for one thing they're healthier than
previous generations so many don't need
to move in with their kids or into a
nursing home
also boomers don't want to move they
like their grocery store
their friends their social activities
they want to stay where the action is
yeah i mean the baby boomer generation
they're
you know they're in their 60s and their
70s they're not like 80s and 90s right
like
many of them are still working it it's
sort of i mean it makes sense that they
are not ready to sell their homes
because they still have a lot of life
left to live
oh yeah absolutely and people are you
know they're living longer
uh their their health is in better shape
and those are all good things and you
should we should celebrate those things
you know we can't force people to you
know move out and live in places
uh where they don't want to live we just
need to
find more housing for younger folks and
quran says even if those healthy boomers
did choose to sell their homes down and
downsize to a condo
they'd still need to find some other
place to live they probably just buy a
different home
and you might think like well they could
just become renters but if they do that
then you just create
more demand for rental housing and rents
will go up
even more than they already have and on
top of that people don't usually go
from being homeowners to renters the
point of
all of this is if you just reallocate
people from one type of housing to
another
you're not solving the problem in the
long run the problem is we have
more people wanting to live in homes
than we have homes
the obvious answer is build more homes
right
if there weren't enough peaches in the
u.s we'd grow more peaches if there
weren't enough tvs we'd make more tvs or
at least
you know china would make more tvs right
so we should make
more housing we should build more
housing but
we can't and this is where things maybe
do
come back to the boomers a little bit
i'd say the the one area where
we can kind of point the finger at
boomers is that they have tended
not to allow change in their
neighborhoods
chapter two
still a little boomery but really in the
end we're all boomers
jenny schutz is an economist at the
brookings institution
and she says baby boomers have tended to
block new housing developments
they haven't really wanted anything in
their neighborhoods other than
stand-alone
single-family homes yeah i mean i i
blame them more for their political
behavior for an opposing new development
than for wanting to live in their houses
and asian place
remember when we said boomers aren't
moving into smaller condos when they get
older
well there actually aren't that many
condos for them to move into
you literally can't add more homes to a
neighborhood
because the older residents who live
there won't let us build it
listen this is totally rational behavior
you buy a house
it's in your interest for there to be
fewer houses around you
that makes the value of your home go up
and homeowners have a say in what kinds
of homes get built
and where because these decisions are
all made at the local level by
city councils and county supervisors so
a developer will tell a city
i want to build a new apartment complex
on this corner and
existing residents jenny says usually
homeowners who tend to be white tend to
be male
and are older will say i don't want it
it's going to change the feel of my
neighborhood it's going to bring traffic
or
schools are already overcrowded whatever
they oppose it and
local officials side with them so we
know that this happens
you know replicated over and over in
neighborhoods across the country
but collectively then that means we're
not building enough housing in the
places where people want to live
well what about like what about the city
council members though like why do they
listen to older constituents
so much yeah so city council members and
mayors and county supervisors are also
homeowners
and they tend to be older too so their
personal experience is a lot closer
to the homeowners who are saying don't
change my neighborhood
they're part of the generation that's
pushing back i'm curious do
do we all just become baby boomers and
act like baby boomers and
the older we get we just end up blocking
new housing it does seem to be true that
once people buy
houses they become a lot more resistant
to change in their neighborhoods i mean
they say that we become our parents as
we get older
that's probably true all right so
blocking new housing
goes way back of course stems from
racism and redlining
and policies meant to prevent black
people from buying in white
neighborhoods so boomers did not
invent blocking new development but
their opposition to
more housing and different kinds of
housing has led to some
really hard to undo zoning laws
oh yeah it's illegal to build anything
other than a single family detached
house
on the majority of land even in big
cities across the country
so in most of the us you are not allowed
to have town houses or duplexes or
triplexes or mobile homes
no apartments no condos no tiny homes no
granny flats in most
of the us and pretty much everyone
agrees we cannot get out of the housing
crisis
without changing some of these zoning
laws and
kind of amazingly jenny says some of
these zoning laws are starting to change
minneapolis just decided to allow
duplexes and triplexes
oregon now allows duplexes same with
raleigh in north carolina
it sounds so weird to hear oh north
carolina has made it legal to build
duplex like why
why has it not been legal to build a
duplex that's exactly the question why
did we ban
most forms of housing on most land and
yes some places are starting
to unban other forms of housing but even
in those places
there still aren't enough houses the
reason why
is the final chapter of the show we'll
get to that after the break
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last reason for the housing shortage the
u.s doesn't have enough people who know
how to build houses and it goes back to
the 2008 housing crisis
during the great recession there were
just a glut of homes on the market they
were losing value
it didn't make sense to build more
houses so we didn't
the u.s under built for years
in the great recession we stopped
building houses
the construction industry basically shut
down if you just look at the number of
homes built in the u.s
in the years before the housing crisis
we were building around
2 million new homes each year
in the years after the housing crisis we
were building like
500 000 homes and like 900 000 homes
so that is at least a million homes
each year for years that didn't get
built
and all this sends a pretty clear
message to people who might have gone
into the construction trades
there may not be a job here for you
right so the construction trades are
things where you go in as an apprentice
you build up experience and skill and
after you know 10 years you become a
master plumber
electrician carpenter so we lost kind of
a whole
cohort of people going into the
construction trades
that takes a long time to fix so now
we're in a situation where we need to
build
more homes fast but there's not enough
skilled people to do it
kim thurlow the housing manager in
blacksburg who we heard from at the
beginning of the show
she called it a trades crisis she's
dealing with it right now
we are really lacking skilled trades in
our area
so we are having to pull on contractors
and subcontractors
from outside of our region which just
increased
the cost overall for the development
they also have to wait a lot for
plumbers and electricians and carpenters
to be free
and ready to work so that adds to the
costs and for kim this comes down to
something else which is that for decades
students were encouraged to go to
college and get white-collar jobs not go
into the trades
and it's not true that trades
will make less money than many white
collar jobs
i can tell you that right now in this
community so
like a lot of places around the country
blacksburg is now trying to get people
to go into the construction trades again
they have an initiative to help offer
community college for free to people
going into the trades
but it's going to take some time it's
going to take a decade
to try and reverse that issue a bunch of
experts agree
it will take years to catch up we just
won't be able to build
enough homes fast enough so millennials
if everything goes well great news looks
like we'll all be able to buy homes
just around the time we're about to
retire great timing
i don't know that sounds like pretty
good news for gen z though yeah it's
like right in time for them
we didn't mention gen x at all erica
they're used to being forgotten
oh are you you're you're gen x right
you're you're basically gen x
you can say that you're putting that in
the story
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Vocabulary Meanings

housing

/ˈhaʊzɪŋ/

A2
  • noun
  • - accommodations, homes, or living spaces

shortage

/ˈʃɔːrtɪdʒ/

B1
  • noun
  • - a lack or deficiency of something

market

/ˈmɑːrkɪt/

A2
  • noun
  • - a place or system where goods are bought and sold

afford

/əˈfɔːrd/

A2
  • verb
  • - to have enough money to pay for something

construction

/kənˈstrʌkʃən/

B1
  • noun
  • - the process of building something

generation

/ˌdʒenəˈreɪʃən/

B1
  • noun
  • - a group of people born and living around the same time

crisis

/ˈkraɪsɪs/

B1
  • noun
  • - a time of great danger or difficulty

demand

/dɪˈmænd/

A2
  • noun
  • - the desire or need for something

development

/dɪˈveləpmənt/

B1
  • noun
  • - the process of growing or being developed

neighborhood

/ˈneɪbərˌhʊd/

A2
  • noun
  • - a district or area within a town or city

initiative

/ɪˈnɪʃətɪv/

B2
  • noun
  • - a plan or action to achieve something

increase

/ɪnˈkriːs/

A2
  • verb
  • - to become larger or greater in size, amount, or degree

cost

/kɔːst/

A1
  • noun
  • - the amount of money needed to buy or do something

skilled

/skɪld/

B1
  • adjective
  • - having the abilities needed to do something well

reverse

/rɪˈvɜːrs/

B1
  • verb
  • - to change something to its opposite or former state

decade

/ˈdɛkeɪd/

A2
  • noun
  • - a period of ten years

incentive

/ɪnˈsɛntɪv/

B2
  • noun
  • - something that motivates or encourages someone to do something

equitably

/ˈɛkwɪtəbli/

C1
  • adverb
  • - in a fair and impartial way

permanent

/ˈpɜːrmənənt/

B1
  • adjective
  • - lasting or intended to last indefinitely

median

/ˈmiːdiən/

C1
  • adjective
  • - relating to the middle value in a set of numbers

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Key Grammar Structures

  • There’s just about 27 homes for sale in Blacksburg right now.

    ➔ Existential‑there construction with present simple (there is/are).

    "There’s" shows the existence of a limited number of homes.

  • The median income for Blacksburg is $89,000 and making that she says you could afford to buy like a $270,000 home.

    ➔ Modal "could" for hypothetical ability + infinitive "to buy"; present participle clause "making that".

    ➔ She says you "could" afford to "buy" a $270,000 home – "could" = possible ability, "to buy" = infinitive complement.

  • The average home being sold for new construction was $435,000.

    ➔ Passive voice with present participle "being sold" + past simple "was".

    "being sold" shows the action is happening to the home (passive), and "was" places it in the past.

  • The first big reason kind of does come down to a battle between generations.

    ➔ Emphatic do‑support with "does come down" for emphasis; informal filler "kind of".

    "does" adds emphasis to the verb "come down" – it stresses the reason.

  • Boomers aren’t selling their homes.

    ➔ Present progressive negative (are + not + verb‑ing) to describe an ongoing activity that is not happening.

    "aren’t" is the contracted form of "are not", showing the negative progressive aspect.

  • They’ve tended not to allow change in their neighborhoods.

    ➔ Present perfect with past participle "tended" + infinitive "to allow"; negative infinitive "not to allow".

    "have tended" indicates a habit that started in the past and continues; "not to allow" shows the prohibited action.

  • You can’t add more homes to a neighborhood because the older residents who live there won’t let us build it.

    ➔ Modal "can’t" for inability; relative clause "who live there"; future simple negative "won’t let".

    "can’t" means it is not possible to add homes; "who live there" describes the residents; "won’t let" = they will refuse to allow it.

  • It’s illegal to build anything other than a single‑family detached house on the majority of land.

    ➔ "It is + adjective + infinitive" construction; infinitive of purpose "to build"; comparative phrase "other than".

    "It’s illegal" expresses a general rule; "to build" explains what is illegal; "other than" introduces the exception.

  • The construction trades are things where you go in as an apprentice and build up experience.

    ➔ Relative clause with "where"; infinitive phrase "to build up"; present simple describing a general truth.

    "where" introduces the clause "you go in as an apprentice and build up experience" – it shows the situation in which the trades are used.

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