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In 24 months, there will be not one
person in this room that will be able to
tell when they watch a human in a video
if that human even exists. Let alone if
it was generated by AI or generated by
your hands in Adobe, thus rendering you
to having to make a choice that you
either trust nothing or you realize
whether I, Gary, as a human amoding this
hoodie or whether it's an AI version of
me that doesn't exist. We're in a place
where every video on the internet, you
will not believe what the person is
saying because you're not sure if they
actually said it because you know that
there is technology now that allows
people to make videos of me saying
egregious things that I've never said.
AI is an insanely enormous wave that is
coming right at you. This AI one, this
is not the iPhone. This is not social
media. This is much more internet. This
is big. This is the rest of your life.
And professionally, it's going to impact
you. But even personally as a human
being all of you have one of two
options. Option one, you are going to
put your head in the sand and your
overall strategy is
or two you are going to grab a surfboard
and you will ride the largest wave that
has come at us since the internet itself
and you will be highly successful and
you will enjoy the ride.
Talk to me about AI.
It's going to kill them.
all do what should they do? What's your
approach to AI? How are you thinking
about that?
The easiest analogy that every one of
you should understand that I can really
do in one minute that I hope gets you on
the right side of this conversation. AI
is an insanely enormous wave that is
coming right at you. All of you have one
of two options. Option one, you are
going to put your head in the sand and
your overall strategy is
or two, you are going to grab a
surfboard
which is called your time and efforts to
learn how to use it and you will grab
this surfboard and you will ride the
largest wave that has come at us since
the internet itself and you will be
highly successful and you will enjoy the
ride.
Some of them will get smashed into the
rocks. I
I believe many people that I'm looking
at in blue light right now
will choose the first option
out of fear, out of complacency,
out of laziness,
which hurts for a room like this because
they pride themselves in not being lazy.
But being lazy
in the form of curiosity
and the work required in knowledge on
something that is this large
is way worse than being lazy and not
wanting to come to the office or only
working five hours a day. Way worse. If
you are here at this conference,
you are who you are. this room. Not one
person that decided to spend their time
to be in this room right now
should be on the side of laziness on
this issue. This room represents the
people that should be riding the
surfboards. But that is how great fear
is. Fear is the single worst energy in
society. Fear is what dictates so much
of your unhappiness. Fear is what leads
to the political, religious, and all the
other bad things that happen in our
society when we weaponize fear. Please,
my friends, do not let the fear of
another technology wave coming along
hurt you. This is your biggest
opportunity truly since the mid to late
90s to take advantage of the internet
and explode. But use the lessons of
history and know how many people poo
pooed or underestimated the internet and
allowed that technology to hurt them.
You've got recent history on your side.
Electricity demonizing. I taught a lot
of you that here today. That's a long
time ago. You may have not known that.
But many of you just looking at the
crowd, you were here when everyone said
social media didn't mean anything or the
iPhone. I mean, especially in Canada,
people thought the Blackberry was going
to win, you know,
like you
like like all of you in the I again
looking at the crowd, some of you have
had 20, 30, 40 year careers right now.
You've seen internet come along, be
underestimated, hurt and help people.
You've seen you've seen social media be
very underestimated 15 years ago. It is
the foundation of the reset of
geopolitics and commerce across the
world. You've seen the smartphone come
along. Do you know many people in here
when the smartphone came along said now
I'll keep my pager. I don't need anybody
calling me when I like like we continue
to demonize technologies. But this AI
one,
this AI one, this is not the iPhone.
This is not social media. This is much
more internet. This is big big. This is
not a fad. This is the rest of your life
and professionally it's going to impact
you but even personally as a human
being. You know how you make fun of your
grandma because she doesn't know how to
use some sort of app. A lot of you are
becoming your grandma right now.
I feel that my I remember the moment
that my mom was out on technology was
calling. She thought it was very rude
and she's basically like that's it. And
I felt that I felt that when my kids got
on Snapchat, I was like, I don't I don't
There are people literally becoming
their grandma right now on this AI
issue. And what will happen to them is
the same thing that happened to grandma,
which is you will have no choice.
Technology is undefeated,
my friends. Technology is undefeated. So
if anything, if anything is accomplished
at this conference today,
me knowing that five to 10 people based
on how passionate I've been for the last
five minutes, I believe that a dozen of
you will now actually leave here who
have been demonizing this or kind of
like hoping it's not coming will start
to allocate the hour a day of research
required and the downloading of apps and
the testing of apps and learning just
like you learned. everything else you
must do it. You will be hurt if you
don't.
Is that how you think you navigate
doing it? Making yourself try it out
like Yeah. In like the realest way. Like
I think again this should work for
everyone.
I was one of these people. I was scared
to learn how to swim. I was I didn't
want to drown. I I was scar I was late
to swimming. I was late to riding a
bike. I didn't want to skin my knee or
bang my elbow. I was scared to kiss a
girl. Like I was go I went through those
adolescence things. But you all know
this, you know, having your first kiss,
swimming, riding a bike, every one of
those things. Eventually, you just got
to a point where you were like, "Fuck
it." And you went,
"Yes, I'm swearing now.
I'm swearing. I've only been able,
friends. I've only been able to hold it
for so long."
You know, I think you can handle it. Um,
so I I think the same thing here. Like
like I get it. Like you know what's so
funny about me personally as a human?
Even though my entire career has been
maximizing new technologies and winning
on them, I by nature am not so I don't
want it to happen either. I'm at the
prime of my career. I've just spent 15
years building the largest independent
advertising agency in the world from
zero to $350 million a year. We'll do
this year. You think I want AI? Don't
clap because I'm in trouble.
And the point I'm trying to make is you
think I want AI to be here. I don't. I
won.
You just figured this thing out.
I I don't want this to happen either. I
just realize I have no choice. I do not
understand this idea
that you think you have a choice on this
issue. How many people are retiring in
the next 5 years? And I don't mean
you're going to execute so awesome that
you're going to sell it and buy a
private plane and whatever. I mean
you're old and you're finished. Raise
your hands.
I want you to truly raise your hands. I
want to see people retiring within the
next 5 years strictly because you're
actually retiring and going to hang out
somewhere warm. Raise your hands.
Like five.
Yeah, there's about I see you, lady. All
right. There's about seven. There's
about seven people here that plan on
retiring within the next five years.
What do you think this AI thing is going
to look like in five years, my friends?
Get on this and get on this. Like, in
fact, I think everyone here should get
up and leave this conference right now
cuz nothing's going to happen here with
me in the next 30 minutes that's more
important than them spending 30 minutes
on learning how to download the right AI
apps, using it, taking notes in every
meeting, making content. admin like your
admin. If who here has an admin? Raise
your hand. Raise your hands high please
if you have an admin. Uh right they
should be using it to make themselves
more efficient for you to be more
efficient. Like this is real life. This
is oxygen. This is oxygen.
Yeah.
Um I don't
want you to say because I think we can
get a lot out of this. We already have
some good advice. So while we're at it,
one of the things I like is like refusal
to accept excuses.
Yeah. So let's I want to drive through
some other ones that I hear a lot from
entrepreneurs. How hard it is to build a
business to build a business to it. Um
hiring, you know, lots of people like
it's hard to build out the team. Um I
can't find the right people. I'm West
Coast Eastern time. What do you say to
people like I just can't grow. I can't
find anymore.
Quit.
I mean, like, what do you want from me?
Pay pay more or use AI like I just told
you to, so you don't need to hire. Like,
I do not understand this concept of
crying. You You can't hire cuz you're in
Calgary. Move.
But I'm But I'm getting to a point like
there's no crying in baseball. They say,
"Well, there's definitely no crying in
business. What do you want from me? You
don't you don't think like it's easier
to build a business in America? Go do
it." Like, I love I love when people are
like, "Oh, it's so easy." Like every
everything is hard.
Do you understand that everything that
is great is hard? Love is hard as [ __ ]
right?
I know.
But like but like you're asking to build
a business.
You're when you were saying I'm going to
be an entrepreneur and I'm going to
build a business. You were asking for a
1% life. You were saying I am going to
live in the 1% where I live on my own
rules, on my own back, where I have full
control, where I do not have an
employer. Of course, it should be hard.
And if the market changes and it's
harder to hire, well, build a business
that can afford to pay more because
that's one of the variables. Or leverage
modern technology. Good news. The AI
thing, you know, they say it's going to
replace jobs. It is going to replace
jobs. Some of those jobs that are
replacing are the ones that you're
looking to hire for. Learn how to use
AI. You won't have to hire anybody. You
don't need to offshore in the
Philippines. You can offshore to a bot.
You like that?
I think so. So I you know what do I say
to excuses? Tough.
I I I don't I mean it like meaning like
I'm not trying to give tough love here.
Like I think everybody knows that I'm
right. Like I don't know. Like I I worry
about things all day long but
complaining about them like you're
you're in 247 solutions. Find a
solution. And when I say move, I mean
it. Like if you're going to sit here and
be like like I You don't get it, Gary.
There's nobody in Calgary. I'm like, you
don't get it, Rick. Move.
All right, we're going to do another
one. I like this. You don't have to move
either, but don't make excuses. Um, all
right. I want to talk about venture
capital because my turn now. I [ __ ]
love what you have to say about venture
capital. Um, Calgary is doing pretty
well now. There's some deals here.
Overall, you know, ventures slowing down
all over the place. You've said in the
past that the emphasis on fundraising
and pursuit of venture capital has
caused us to fundamentally lose the art
of building a real business, one that is
profitable each month and can pay its
own bills. We need to put pressure on
the entrepreneurial community as a whole
to start focusing on making money, not
raising money.
So talk to a room full of people who say
there's not enough access to capital in
Canada.
Move. I'm just kidding.
All right. This is having a wrong
effect. Tell them they can do it from
here
cuz they can. The point of me saying
move should inspire someone to say to
me, "No, I'm not moving and I can do it
here because you can." Meaning my big
thing on these kind of issues is going
back to the last question this one is if
you can point to someone who's done it
then it's been done you know like like
Spotify was invented in Sweden Facebook
was actually funded in Boston not
Silicon Valley this whole obsession with
Silicon Valley is laughable like there's
unlimited high netw worth individuals in
Calgary I have friends who LP raised
from Calgary. The LP level real checks.
I don't know if you know that there's
there's oil money here like like like
you know like like this con there's also
like athletes that play for the Flames
who get paid a lot of money a year. They
might have a h 100,000 to give a
startup. Like I I this is a perspective
mind shift issue. What do I think? I
think there's unlimited opportunity to
raise capital when you have a company in
Calgary. There's also things I don't
know if you heard about this invention.
It's called a plane.
When you live in Calgary, you can take a
plane to Los Angeles or San Francisco or
Vancouver or Toronto or New York City or
Dubai or Doha or London. Like this like
I these these these concepts make me
laugh.
Like there's also something called a
phone. You can call someone. Zoom
exists. You can have a Zoom meeting
while you sit in Calgary with, you know,
a human that's in New York City and she
or he will give you money. Like, what
are we talking about here?
You talk about red.
Well, yeah, if you want to talk about
that part of the quote, like that's like
the concept of giving up a big piece of
your business for money that you're then
going to likely burn because, you know,
when you have money in your wallet, you
tend to burn it. Um, has always been
foreign to me. I I do think coming look,
capital matters. It helps some of the
biggest companies in the world. The
problem is it became cool. There's so
many companies that have raised capital
that never needed to. They just thought
they were supposed to. And so I think
you have to be if you're building Uber
or Facebook, you're going to need
capital. Like Amazon, yes, you will need
capital. But I think when you have a
small app or things of that nature,
there is a way to think about
monetization early on. Everybody was
going for the 1% 1% 1% unicorn idea.
There's a billion businesses that can be
done. And in fact, it's similar to the
way I think about people putting
mortgages down in their home. I I don't
mind raising capital. I think too many
people raise too much capital. Like a
lot of the businesses that are running
around in this room really only needed
$250,000,
not $4 million. And then the other issue
on that quote is everybody became
professional fundraisers, not actual
entrepreneurs. It all became about
financial arbitrage. How do I get to
metrics to raise the next round? Then we
got so unhealthy at a period of time
where if you get to enough metrics in
the series B, you could take money off a
pound. And so you were making money, but
none of your investors made money. And
there was still all these bad behaviors.
Luckily, the economic tighten up that
we've been through has actually cleaned
this up quite a bit. That's what
naturally happens. So I think we are in
better behavior than when I was talking
about that. But those are my thoughts on
those issues.
Yeah. I I always tell my editor, we
could change the whole sector if we
stopped talking about people raising
money and started saying that they
borrowed millions of dollars.
100%
I Yeah, I this celebration of the fund
raise was very toxic to young
entrepreneurs and you know and by the
way I don't cry for VCs because they're
just trying to deploy capital and show
returns that are fake to raise their
next round because they're living on
their two and 20. So like when people
like want to like you know say whose
fault it is, it's the whole ecosystem.
It's not just the founders and the
entrepreneurs. The VCs were playing
their own game and then the institutions
and the LPs were playing their own game
and on and on and on.
You think we're in a good direction
right now?
I like pain.
Yeah,
I do. I think I think adversity is the
foundation of success. I think when the
money's flowing and we're just printing
money that that's a problem. And I do
think that when we find the middle, we
always do much better. And unfortunately
in entrepreneurship, in politics, in
society, we've become way too left and
way too right when the center is always
the answer to the quiz.
Uh
I want to get a little bit of political
advice from you. You know, we're we're
in some pain, I think, right now as a
country in Canada. Um, we sort of
realized we've become overly dependent
on the US as a customer, as a protector.
Um, we have a hard time defining what
we're about, picking a thing. Um, you
know, I've heard you use the term scared
money. Scared money doesn't make money.
I feel like Canada has a bit of scared
money vibes these days. Um, if you look
at can when you look at at Canada's
brand, we got a new CEO. What's the
mood? What's your advice? What can do?
You know, I think I I think it's a
really challenging question. Look, what
has happened with these tariffs is
unprecedented was very hard to predict
and look the reality is is the US is one
of the most important global markets in
the world. And our relationship is
historically and still like let there be
no confusion. Just like any country, you
know, there's a big difference between a
government that's operating a country
and the people of a country. And we've
seen that from time. I was born in the
Soviet Union. Me personally, not my
parents, not my grandparents, me. I, the
human being, was born in the Soviet
Union. I can promise you that the people
that lived from 1917 to 1991 in the
Soviet Union did not see America the way
the government saw America. I promise
you that if you went and spoke to the
lovely people of North Korea right now,
their point of view on the world, if
they even knew what the hell's going on
in the world, is different than how the
government sees it. I think this is if
if I'm running Canada, I a realize that
this is an incredibly short-term blip.
Two, even if it's long-term, the reality
is is that you can sit on ideology all
you want. The reality is America should
be one of Canada's biggest customers
because it's one of the biggest markets
in the world. It's also Sweden's and
Peruse and like just like China is one
of America's biggest like it's just a
big market. Like this concept of like
let's just play within Canada is not
going to do Canada any good. Meaning
it's fine. And I do think that what the
world is definitely all gonna do right
now is get more insular because of this.
Every country, not just Canada, every
country is now thinking about how do
they grow their own economic situation
because now the cat's out of the bag and
like you never know when other tariffs
and other things and people can see that
tariffs and the economy is being
weaponized, right? We're getting away
from dropping bombs on each other. It's
more about economic behavior that is,
you know, creating these variables.
What would I do? I would focus on
building the internal market as strong
as possible. What do I think about that?
I think this is a page that people
should take from China and America. Why
has China risen so much in the last 40,
50 years? It's because it's taken a more
economic American entrepreneurial
capitalistic approach to their internal
market. What what should Canada do? It
should keep every one of its best
entrepreneurs in Canada by creating
rules that benefit the people that
actually drive the economy.
[Applause]
Like like like it's and by the way, I
don't say this from a political lens of
like what do Republicans and Democrats
or conservatives and liberals think on
this issue? I I say this to every
government, including America. By the
way,
this is about to become a talent game
because of technology.
We can now have meetings in Zoom. And by
the way, Zoom is like a beeper. In 12
years, 15 years, we're all going to be
in VR glasses having meetings where
we're not going to be together, but it's
going to feel more like this than it
does on Zoom. And so all of a sudden,
you can live anywhere and conduct
business. And you take into account
private aviation and the costs going
down and technology, the most talented
humans in the world are about to become
the asset. And whoever has the most
positive tax laws and the most positive
ways to keep them are going to win.
London has a problem. The UK has a huge
problem right now. They are losing their
best talent. And and by the way, the
Middle East and other parts of the world
are not fooling around. America
was built on one concept, the American
dream. That concept literally for 150
years got all the best talent. No matter
where you were in the world, you were
born. And if you were an entrepreneur
and a creative and a maker and a driver,
a driver, your dream, whether you were
born in Cape Town or in Calgary or in
Stockholm, if you were an A+, your
number one dream in life was to get to
America. and America's immigration
policy and the brand and the policies on
taxing and how they kept their best
talent is why they became the world
power because they got the best talent
no matter where they were born to go
there. Countries are about to replicate
that. And what would I do if I ran
Canada? I would have a policy to get the
best talent in the entire world from
Africa, from Europe, from Asia, from
America. Like, do you know how many
Americans would move to Canada tomorrow
if they had policies that made it
financially interesting? Do you know how
beautiful this place is? Vancouver,
Toronto, Montreal. This place is loaded
with optionality.
But I'm not paying [ __ ] [ __ ]
taxes.
You get healthare though, right?
You get health. But here's the problem,
and I really like Canada a whole lot.
I'm going to say it nice and slow. You
get health care to a point.
Why do people come to America for the
big boy surgeries?
Hm.
So like again, we are no longer in a
place where humans don't feel like they
have optionality and they have to stay
where they're staying. We are now
competing for the best talent in the
world. And it's not just against Canada.
You've got golden visas being put up
every Portugal. You've got Saudi like
there. This is real time. It is. What
would I do if I was Canada? I would keep
my best people for damn sure and I would
create policies to attract the best
people. I'll give you an example of what
Canada did extremely well. I don't know
if this is on everybody's radar. The
level of Persian super brains that have
come to this country in the last 5 years
from Iran because of the policy on
immigration
is a huge win for Canada. These are
these are some of the smartest people
from a country that has a lot of natural
talent. And because your policies were
better than their policies and you had
more opportunity, people were willing to
take a short-term step back to be an
immigrant here than their life there
because long term it was more. And so
now you have a talent infusion. We
should replicate that at scale. The
problem is we have this crazy game going
on in the world where some countries are
and a lot of countries we all know this
are going more nationalism, right? No
immigrants. And then you have other
countries that are like, we actually
want the best immigrants and we'll make
it really cushy. This will become the
battle. That's what I would do if I ran
this.
And I think it's a battle about story,
right? Everything comes back to story.
What are you telling? What is the story
you're telling the world about who you
are?
Story, but also policy.
Yeah. I mean, like again, I will say
this nice and slow because it's
interesting. This is how you recruit
talent for your business, too.
every the best entrepreneurs in America
could move to Canada tomorrow if you
came up with a policy that said we will
have a process to evaluate the best
entrepreneurs and if you're one of those
people we will give you 10 years of
tax-free business behavior in Canada and
we will all moonwalk
to Canada
is that where we're at or we not you
know and those become that's what's but
by the way what's fun about me talking
about this because I don't usually talk
about politics is this is already
happening. What I'm saying meaning
countries have already started to make
these behaviors happen. This is a talent
warfare and that goes back to the first
question. How do you hire better? Make
it better for the best people.
We got to pay more contract. I like
that. All right. I'm gonna ask one more
and then we're going to go to the
audience. Um future looking at the
future. What is the thing? What is the
technology? What are the companies?
where the areas of focus that excite me
the most right now. What are you seeing
that
I'm going to put AI over here because
we've spent time on it. My favorite
thing that's happening right now that's
a huge opportunity especially for that
bearded gentleman Connor that I like so
much
is live social shopping.
So the QVCification
of social media is about to be a
monster. Speaking of China, this has
been going on for 10 years in Asia. Live
social shopping. Basically, I believe in
the next five years, somewhere between
10 and 30% of every piece of content
that you see in your feed on Tik Tok,
Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, YouTube,
Twitter will be somebody selling
something live at that moment.
So, this is an enormously big economy.
How many people here sell something
physically? Raise your hands. Like you
sell a product, raise it high. Just
curious. Great. Everybody who just
raised their hand besides the AI hour,
you should spend an equal hour on live
social shopping. Literally going live on
Whatnot or Tik Tok shop right now, which
are the two leaders in Canada and
selling stuff literally on the show. The
human behavior on the other side of
buying stuff in this environment is
crazy. people spend more and will buy
things in a live shopping show on social
media that they would never buy on a
website or in a store. The entertainment
of it all, the hype of it all, the fun
of it all. And so I believe the biggest
trend of opportunity for many people in
this room is live social shopping.
The other thing that excites me is the
final chapter of social media. Meaning,
I believe we've only got another 5 to 10
years of this golden era that built
Connor's business, the books I write,
this social media world where everything
is free. It's free. You can post on
these platforms for free. And if your
piece of content is good, it could get
millions of views. And those views are
earned because of relevance, which leads
to consideration, which leads to people
buying things. I do believe that for
100% if I may just steal this for show
and tell I believe that everybody in
this room in seven years is wearing
these and in these is the UI and UX and
that this will go the way of the pager
and our entire world is being built
through here and in that world I'm not
sure how social works you know it may
still work with a feed here but I
believe this will become the primary
device of our society, not this in the
next decade. And within that decade,
when that happens, it resets all the
rules of marketing and business. All of
a sudden, physical location changes. And
so, I I think that meta on this project
Orion that they're working on is the
biggest thing that's going on in our
faces that no one's paying attention to.
I in the same way. How many people here
are over 45 years old? Raise your hands.
So for all of us that just raised our
hands,
I raised mine.
Yeah, but you you Yeah, you did this
that you were like you did a very um
uh
for all of us over 45, we lived our
entire childhood without the internet
and a phone. You know, I literally went
to college without ever having a
computer in my house, let alone being on
the internet, let alone having a phone.
We are all like, it's inconce. I mean,
do you understand what people would do
right now if I just stole their phone
right now from them? You would lose your
mind. You would not know how to
function. I believe that we will look
back at this era as an era. But I do
believe glasses are going to win. I
think it's coming. And so the thing that
I implore everyone if you have not taken
advantage of building brand on social
media in its form factor now that you
must go hard because this is a golden
era. We've never had a platform that was
free that could build fame and marketing
for free. Like I I will say the word
again, you know, like I do not
understand how you do not understand
this. When you buy a billboard, you pay
for it. When you do direct mail, you pay
for it. When you buy Google Adwords, you
pay for it. Radio, pay for it. Full page
ads in print, pay for it. Television
commercials, pay for it. Influencer
marketing, you pay the influencer.
Posting on social media is free and if
you're good at it, it gets views.
So, that's the other thing on my mind.
Yeah. Um, maybe we can combine live
social shopping with our policy.
Maybe. Maybe.
What do you want this group to know
about you? that's not
not much
else. It's not that I'm overly excited
about people knowing about me. I think
what would be great for this audience to
know from my perspective is that I
really believe that nice guys finish
first. I think the thing that I would
like a lot of you to know is that in
building a large business or in building
something substantial, I do not believe
that you have to compromise
your humanity. I do not believe that
sharp elbows are the only way to win in
business. I wish more people knew that
the foundation of sustained economic
success is actually by caring about
others.
Not trying to extract every penny out of
every deal, leaving something on the
table for the other side. building an
internal culture that leads to so much
retention within your organization that
you are able to go faster and harder
than your competitors because you have
so much trust amongst yourselves. And so
when I think about my past,
what's very clear to me is that the way
my motherthered me to be a good human
being is disproportionately the reason
I've had substantial financial success.
She reinforced
I thank you. I you know I think that and
this is you know I think that
unfortunately people really believe that
business is dirty and you have to kill
the other guy and all this and listen I
love competition. Um I I believe in
merit. I believe in those things. But I
yeah, I just it's very clear to me that
if you're running a marathon and you're
trying to do something significant
and for the long term, uh the better you
do it from a humanity standpoint, the
more likely it will happen.
Did you have people that you looked to
obviously your mom's a huge influence,
did you have people in business that you
looked to that you're like, "That's
that's that way to do it when I come
up."
No, I didn't. I idolized athletes and
other things like Randy the Macho Man
Savage and
I I looked up to different kind of
characters within business. Even to this
day, I have a very unique framework. I'm
very insular. It's me and the audience.
I always trusted the audience. To me, it
was me. The thing that molded me was the
end consumer. I didn't look up to Steve
Jobs or Bezos or Oprah or anything like
that. I thought the context was too
different. I believe too much in the
now. I believe things are moving too
fast. I think there's triedand-true
principles that work, but I feel like
I've been a businessman my whole life.
For context, in this room, whether it
was lemonade stands or trading cards and
then working in my father's liquor
store, I have been working since I was
six, seven years old. A lot of the core
rules of entrepreneurship were so
natural to me. I I don't learn really by
reading or watching. My currency of
learning is living in the truth. I think
entrepreneurship is not something you go
to university for. Entrepreneurship is
learned in the trenches and I I agree.
I bring my I bring my mom to all my
talks.
She's great.
Uh so no, I didn't. In fact, back to my
opening line, the only time I've ever
really been significantly booed in my
career on stage was they told me not to
curse at this talk, so I won't use the
exact words, but I was at South by
Southwest in 2007 or eight, and my
opening line was, "F Jobs, and everybody
booed me because he was on such a
pedestal at the time." The point I was
trying to make is, "We don't have to be
jerkoffs to our employees to be
successful." And so
and so no my my teacher my mentor
my framework was always the 8 billion
people on earth on what they wanted to
buy why they bought things what they
were interested in why are they
interested in those things that has been
where I spend my energy
um one of the things I like that you
said is you think about like
understanding history allows you to do
pattern recognition.
Yes.
Um talk to me a little bit about that
and what like right now what are you
recognizing? What patterns are you
recognizing?
So electricity.
It's here right now.
Nobody here is thinking about that.
Only a short period of time ago,
electricity was invented. When
electricity was invented, kids,
most people did not put it in their home
because society said that there was
actual demons
in the electricity, demonizing
something. The slang term came from us
humans being scared that electricity had
demons in it. And so we would still use
candles in our home instead of bringing
electricity
because we were scared of new
technology.
Right now, the majority of this room, if
they're really paying attention, is
demonizing AI. They are scared of what
AI is going to do and how it's going to
take their money.
Yet, it will be like electricity. It
will be a profoundly good technology
that will be omniresent and will advance
manhood and create more opportunity, not
less. But because we are all right now
in this room in a place where it could
hurt us in the short term financially,
we are demonizing it. That would be an
example of me using history to tell me
what is happening right now.
Thank you.
[Applause]
Um, all right. I'm gonna throw it over
to you guys now. We're gonna bring some
people out to to uh with mic typing so
you can ask questions.
Go ahead, sir. What's your name? So my
name is saying I'm from a company called
convers
how aentic AI is helping Gary V or Gary
V's empire or if it's not helping or
building
well it's going to help because I own my
intellectual property right when you own
your IP when you know both in V friends
the world I'm building which is like my
Mickey Mouse Pokemon but it's it's it's
a super tool. It's going to allow me to
be dramatically more productive and
extract more value. And so, you know, to
again, to me, it's I don't view it as I
view it no different than I view social
media,
than I view apps, than I view the
internet. It becomes a tool that we will
harness to extract more value on
creating scaled demand, scaled
awareness, and scaled execution. It's
it's not like this separate thing,
right? It's just an overlaying
technology that will allow us to be more
efficient and get a lot more
productivity for a much lower cost.
Do you think you're going to count as
my my biggest business, Vayner Media,
the one that has 2500 employees
globally? My belief is that we're going
to grow into efficiency more so than
eliminate headcount. My belief is that
we're at 350 million in revenue now and
that we should be able to get to 500
million in revenue without reducing
headcount, but by dramatically slowing
down headcount by making every one of my
employees dramatically more effective by
them using AI.
Question over there.
Thank you.
Hi there. Oh, loud. My name is Mark. Run
a company called Sustainable. Turning
beer waste into a sustainable flower.
Love.
Uh thank you. You talked about at the
beginning how building trust and being a
leader that leaves something on the
table.
Yes.
Is a great way to build business and
move faster. How do you think leaders
today can do that given the wave of
change you've talked about through AI
and all the other things? What do you
think the top three things they could
do?
Just keep the mic in case there's some
back and forth work. I think it's I
think it's different for every business,
right? I think it's an intent more so
than a tactic. Meaning in your business,
to your point, if you're feeling the
impact of tariffs, if you're feeling the
impact of competition, like like being a
good person doesn't mean doing behavior
that puts your business out of business
and then nobody has a job, right? I I
think when I say leaving something on a
table, I think that's in the context of
negotiations,
you know? So, if you're negotiating with
someone and there's some room in between
a deal, a lot I I really do believe that
whether it's negotiating a salary raise
for an employee or doing a deal with a
vendor or a customer that both sides of
the equation kind of have a sense of the
way it went down. And if you have the
intent to do the best you can for all
three of those things that I said, I
believe that energy is felt. If you have
the intent to get every last penny, I
believe that energy is felt. So I think
how do you do these things? I think it
actually has to be your actual intent.
Whatever that, you know, in whatever
context it is, you know what I mean?
Yeah. And quick second question, just
cuz asking for forgiveness is easier.
Um,
if you're hitting a wall for the first
time in your business because of
potential other players seeing the
opportunity, seeing you guys potentially
heading towards a place of distress and
then wanting a better deal. What would
your advice be to the entrepreneur to
manage?
That's a really good question, brother.
I mean, you need to create optionality
in that scenario. If somebody's being
predatory because they can smell blood
in the water and they know that you're
in a pickle and you know I think you've
got a couple options. One, you suck it
up and you take the deal because you
have no choice or you create other
optionality. Borrowing money, raising
money, getting other customers. What's
tough about business is it's not
government. It's not academics. It's not
parenting. It's not this blurry thing
where you can make pretend. This is real
life. If you have a customer who can
smell that you're in a tough spot and
thus they're using that as a negotiation
tactic to get a better deal, that's
called business. And so what do you need
to do on the other side? One, take the L
and just deal with it and try to build
back up to create those options I told
you which allows you to tell them to go
screw themselves and then you got to
call their bluff.
I like option two. Appreciate you.
You got to think about asking another
one. Okay. My name is Lisa.
Lisa.
I'm actually unemployed.
Okay.
And for product manager role.
Okay.
So, I know you talk about
Lisa, how much are you posting on
LinkedIn?
I've kind of been just chilling out for
the last couple.
And is that
I came here specifically to make some
connections like with Gary Vee.
Yep.
And uh yeah, after this I will be
blasting away on LinkedIn.
Good. Honestly, I mean, you're allowed
to chill and that sounds like you you
you wanted that and needed it for
yourself, but the reason I'm asking is
LinkedIn posting.
Yes.
You talking about your career, how
you've done the role in the past, what
you're seeing in the market,
you know, is disproportionately the
quickest way for you to get a new job,
much more than networking physically in
this room. So, I just want to encourage
you to do that daily.
I will certainly be doing that.
So,
me being a little bit older than a lot
of some of these people here and you
talk
good good news I can see the whole crowd
you're not older than a lot of people in
this
so you talk about all these things with
um all the technology and you know VR
and glasses and social media
yes
I don't want to be on my phone and on a
computer 247 like I I actually enjoy
going to Home Depot and walking around
and touching things before I buy them
I don't want going to be shopping online
all the time.
Well, you don't have to.
So, how do you find that balance or
by not doing it
by not
like like
I don't like you see everybody walking
on the streets with their heads down and
there seems to be a lot of I find lack
interpersonal le
your subjective opinion
on how society should be
has nothing to do with business. Okay.
So, when I hear your energy about this,
I also wish the kids were outside
playing.
I like 1983 a lot, too.
I think you're blurring your ideology
into a conversation about business.
So, the reason I'm bringing that up is
good news. If you do not want to shop
and be, you're going to be able to do
that. There's gonna be certain things
you're gonna be forced into. Like many
Yeah. Many people here never wanted to
use the internet. I used to have
unlimited people I did business with in
1999 where I would send them an email
and their secretary and admin would
print out the email and they would read
it and we would have a phone call to go
over it and I would say, "You're old.
You're a dinosaur. This is ridiculous."
And they said, "This is how I'm going to
do it forever." And then 5 years later,
we were emailing back and forth. You
will be forced into some stuff. But good
news, you want to go to Home Depot and
touch the wood, knock yourself out.
[Laughter]
Hey, just as a fast follow on that,
do you think that business has any like
do you worry at all about business
pushing too far in a negative direction?
Like is there anything that you see that
you're worried about or you can
separate?
No, of course. I mean, I think the
biggest issue in America is that
capitalism went too far and became
materialism and became, you know, like
all these fake capital. I love all these
my friends in America who are like, I
believe in free market and capitalism
and little small government and then
they spend all their time once they make
money trying to pay off politicians to
make rules to allow them to keep money.
I worry about humans are flawed. You
know that, right?
Not us. you know, like I I worry about
things, but I but I in the scenarios
we're talking here, I worry that I don't
worry about little things. And I think a
lot of us worry about little things and
have these micro ideologies that have
nothing to do with the professional
aspect of what's going on or the
business stuff. So yeah, of course I
worry about anything out of balance. But
do I believe that free market,
entrepreneurship, creativity, STR, like
do I believe in those things on its
merit? Of course, it's the history of
human spirit. Everything that we stand
on today as humans came on the shoulders
of humans that innovated and created
things to allow us to do that. This is
who's advanced our society. somebody in
Do you do you understand that 80% of the
world worked on farms before the tractor
was invented?
Do you know how profound that is? Like
there like you used to get compensated
if you were big and strong because there
were no machines.
And so, you know, I I think about those
things a lot. Most things don't scare
me. What scares me is when people use an
ideology
as a detriment to their advancement.
Okay. Red.
What's your name?
Oh, Jacob.
Jacob.
Thank you. So, I was just going to
relate that idea of demonization and AI.
Yes.
Though you used to demonize electricity,
there is still truth that electricity
can shock. It can kill you.
I mean, that's ludicrous.
I I I'm the reason I'm jumping in,
brother, is I you know I I'll let you
finish your point, but like
I mean that's where you're going to go.
Like somebody might get shocked. Like
you do know the math around the
likelihood of electricity killing you is
quite low. Yes,
absolutely.
Okay, keep going.
So, we've seen this recent change in AI
where it's getting harder to tell what's
AI generated and what's not.
No, no, we we are not in that place.
There is no scenario on earth where any
human in this conference will be able to
tell the difference in 24 months. So,
let's just go to the full end. Nobody
will be able to tell. Keep going.
So, how will that trust affect the way
that we sell on social media?
Well, what are you trying to trust?
Let's play out. I like this question.
What? Let's play it out. Give me a
example to help everybody understand
something that you would struggle with.
An AI generated human being that looks
like a human being selling something,
but you're not sure if it's really a
human being or not. Would you have a
propensity to not buy that red jacket
from something that you yourself would
not be able to tell if it is or isn't a
human? What what happens in Jacob's mind
in that scenario?
Propaganda.
My idea is that if it's becomes harder
to
not harder, there will be not one person
in this room that will be able to tell
when they watch a human in a video in 24
months if that human even exists. Let
alone if it was generated by AI or
generated by your hands in Adobe,
you won't be able to tell if that human
actually exists or not. That's happening
right now, let alone 24 months. But I'm
going to give it another 24 months to
get even stronger than it is now. Let's
keep playing. You're in Instagram. You
see somebody saying, "This new red
jacket is super awesome." You're going
to have it in your brain that that human
may or may not exist. What happens next
in your mind?
It's going to be harder to tell whether
I can trust that.
What's the monitor? Let me
Well, the whole statistics if I don't
see someone who's real, who's actually
wearing a product or doing something
with
Jacob, how old are you?
Um, just turned 18.
18. So, let me tell you something you'll
find interesting. In It's 2025. In 2003,
um,
something came along called online
dating.
And when it came out, most of the people
in this room that were around judged it.
In fact, most of the marriages that
happened in in 2001, 2, 3, four, five,
six, seven that came through people
meeting online, that couple would lie to
their friends and family on how they
met. They would tell them stories that
they met at a bar or somewhere else, not
that they had met online because it was
so taboo.
You would agree now that in your
generation, Tinder and other aspects
that is now normal. It doesn't seem
crazy for someone to meet on a dating
app. You agree?
Absolutely.
When you are 40 and there's an
18-year-old Jacob standing up here and
they talk about AI, humans, and this
that they won't even know what the hell
you were talking about today. It will
become the norm.
You're going to you're you may decide
from an ideology that you think it's
weird. It will just become
real. I I know I know. But good news. I
think my flight got delayed a little
bit. I want to I want to finish this out
because it's going to help.
Jacob, you're not going to be able to
tell. You will live in 100% distrust.
You do know that, right? You right now
should assume that some of the people
you're seeing on social media don't
exist
because you won't be able to tell. You
do understand that next year you must
live a life where you don't believe any
of it.
You you're following where I'm going
with this?
So my belief is that that won't be
sustainable for you and you'll realize
it doesn't [ __ ] matter.
Jacob, you're not going to be able to
tell.
Thus, rendering you to having to make a
choice that you either trust nothing or
you realize whether I, Gary, as a human
amoding this hoodie or whether it's an
AI version of me that doesn't exist.
That has nothing to do with you deciding
if you think a hoodie is nice or not.
I'm going to get
If I may, if I may, if I may, I will.
I'll get to him. Don't worry, I got a
few minutes. I'm going to make another
point, Jacob, and everybody. You have to
understand what I talked about the
mundane with Jacob. Let's go to the not
mundane, your new CEO, our president,
me, Gary Vee, and everybody else. We are
in a place in 24 months where every
video on the internet you will not
believe what the person is saying
because you're not sure if they actually
said it. This is called a deep fake
video. This is one of the most important
things that is happening in our society.
For the last hundred years, video proof
has been the judge and jury of our
society.
What that means is very important. What
I just talked to Jacob about was silly.
Do you buy a blouse or not?
But what if every world leader, every
human, every celebrity, every time you
saw a video of them, you could not have
the ability to believe this was true
because you know, cuz we do know that
there is technology now that allows
people to make videos of me saying
egregious things that I've never said.
This is why the blockchain
is one of the most important
technologies in the world. Right now,
everyone's very caught up in what it
means for Bitcoin and what it means for
cryptocurrency and is are NFTTS
important or is it a fad? But what it is
is it's the single most important ledger
in the universe. It is a ledger that
proves something is true and nobody owns
it. Not China, not America, not Canada,
not Amazon, not Google. These are
decentralized
servers that no one controls and can be
a source of truth. For example,
every single video that I'm making next
year will first be minted as an NFT on
the blockchain
to prove that I made that video. And
there will be technology that comes
along that allows us to see from the
internet to the blockchain and back. You
need me off? I'm coming. I'm coming. I'm
coming. But I'm making a profound point
here.
This is a very big deal. And this is
also the reason so many of you should be
learning about blockchain technology. It
is not about crypto memecoin fads. It is
about a source of truth that will allow
our society to go forward in the next
century.
Thank you, Calgary.
Thanks, everybody. Great.
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