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what is Bill Perkins secret sauce I

think my biggest secret sauce is not giv

a that's Bill Perkins bestselling author

High Stak Gambler and millionaire energy

Trader last year he made $100 million

from Trading natural gas and oil you

made 100 million in a year yes but he

wasn't always the Million dooll Man he

is today when you have to like stay at

home living in a little room with your

mom can't get laid gramping your style

this sucks in the real world's hitting

you he traded his way to the top by

taking some massive risks and we were

down like I don't know 50% some ungodly

number in this interview I sat down and

asked him how making $100 million

changed his life I hear it all the time

it's like oh you have enough I'm like

you don't know what the you talking

about call it money Chuck-E-Cheese

tokens whatever I I don't give a [ __ ] I

care about what choices does this enable

me to have what it's like paying taxes

on $100 million what's been your biggest

tax bill 54 million that's a big tax

bill yeah it hurts Bill Perkins

everybody Bill Perkins is not living the

dream Bill Perkins is enjoying the dream

the question is whose dream my dream

let's dive in for the people that maybe

aren't familiar with with you what's

like the the 30 seconds who's Bill

Perkins I think I'm just a regular

person going young life I grew up in

Jersey City wanted to be rich because I

was very influenced by what was

perceived as rich people being able to

do which is whatever they wanted you

know have nice things Etc and that was

marketed to me I work my way through

being like a peon screen clerk in

Commodities up to a Commodities Trader

how how did you get into this career cuz

you're the third person that we've

interviewed with energy trading yeah and

they're all super rich and I have zero

idea still what energy trading is we'll

get to that but how did you get started

in this career I really wanted to get

into equities but I had like a there's a

spot for a screen clerk I didn't know

what a screen clerk was and I got

introduced to the floor and back then it

was open outcry and it was like chaos

people yelling and screaming it's the

buy and sell stocks yeah yeah buy and

sell Commodities like oil natural gas

heating oil back then natural gas wasn't

even a contract back then my thought

being like an arrogant at 20-some was

like wow if these idiots can be rich so

can I I went from serious super slacker

like least likely to succeed to you know

turned it on to 100 and learned as much

as I could what what changed what what

sparked that necessity like when you

have to like stay at home and you know

living in a little room with your mom

can't get laid cramping your style and

realizing like this [ __ ] sucks in the

real world's hitting you you you have

two choices you can become a victim or

you know turn it on and so how did you

grow in your career to get to your first

milon was it as this as a Commodities

Trader yes so I well I was a screen

Clerk and worked my way up learned as

much as I could and finally got into a

trading position and Traders generally

buy and large get up eat what they kill

and so that was like oh that's that's

that's where I want to be to get a

percentage of what you make what was

that like for you to get to the first

million like you said hey I wanted to be

rich I was dreaming of all this stuff

how did it feel when you finally got

there it was kind of anti-climatic

commodity training is a puzzle and I

think humans are puzzle solving

creatures right we love solving puzzles

and this is like a puzzle that's

constantly changing and the feedback is

fairly instant you know instantly hot

stove great trade hot stove you know

what I mean like the feedback loop is

very close to the action with trading

and it's complex enough but not

intractable and I enjoyed solving that

puzzle and I really enjoyed the life

that it could potentially afford me when

I got the money I had been so

conditioned on trying to make it I

forgot why I made it you know I became

disassociated from the reward right it

was all abstract it was just dollars the

first time when I made $35,000 a year

that was probably the most exciting time

in my life in terms of making money I

got to like 50 something and then I was

like I make more money than my mom I am

a badass that felt the best way more

than the million way more million 10

million 100 million you know 100 million

years are just kind of like oh I made

100 million I'm going to you made 100

million in a year yes all right we'll

get we'll get to that story what are you

trading what cuz what is happening to

make this money cuz you're the third

person I've been fortunate to meet

that's done well we're trading natural

gas so I trade natural gas in power

betting on whether the price is going up

down or the relative spreads are going

or how volatile it's going to be same

same thing but in commodity space most

of the people think like we're competing

against each other like other hedge

funds we're not all our money is from

people that like are actually in the

commodity business who don't give a [ __ ]

they're like hey I found natural gas and

it cost me a125 to make it and it's

trading 250 I want to hedge and lock in

the money and run I will sell you a

strip of natural gas for 2 years for 250

and we're like okay we'll buy it at this

price because we think this is a fair

price and it'll go up and hedging is

where we make the money because the

buyer of that let's say a power plant's

going to come on and says we need to buy

gas he's not there at the same time

right the people hedging for different

reasons are not the same time so

somebody needs to Warehouse that risk in

the meantime given the information

that's going on sometimes we get it

wrong we get ran over you know what I

mean sometimes we get it right right

that's where the money comes from it

doesn't come from me being right versus

Jaron or Morgan stanle or Etc it comes

from people that need to hedge that that

like a farmer I'm going to plant this

crop the crop's going to come out next

year and I need this price to make money

somebody has to come in and speculate

and say I'll buy at this price I think

it's going to be higher that's where the

money is made well if someone was young

and they're just getting started or even

old and they're like hey I want to make

a million dollars maybe in this energy

trading what would you what would you

recommend for them to go do wow it's

really hard I would recommend them go to

a place to learn um usually the banks or

some sort of internship where they can

actually learn and there that's where

you can cut your chops you know work

your way up to being an analyst and then

seeing if I want to be a Trader but not

everybody can be a Trader doesn't matter

how bright you are or how smart you are

there's a certain level of stoicism you

have to have and you know I've said this

before I don't know if you heard it like

most people require five to seven

positive events to make up for one

negative event if you're the best Trader

in the world like God mode you're what

6040 and so there's are very few select

people who can handle that the emotional

math is I need five days or seven days

of good days for one it just doesn't

work right so then your prefrontal

cortex and that stress and that

cortisone stops the work and you you

just break down it's not worth it to you

who can handle that many bad days and

still function properly how did you

practice that skill I think it can be

learned but I think some of it is just

innate I I don't know how you get it

innately but I think certain people do

practice it right they have like they

read all the stoics and they they

meditate and they do everything but

there are certain people are just like

it is what it is is what were some of

the Wilder stories on the the the big

wins or big losses in your trading we

had a huge draw down one of the things I

told my investors they were worried

because they see my lifestyle they're

like oh you're going to quit right we're

going to give you a bunch of money and

we're going to invest in you and then

you're going to quit in two years or 3

years and I told them I won't quit you

until you quit me and we were down like

I don't know 50% some some some ungodly

number for commodity trading right and I

thought like these guys are going to

pull out the money we're going to be

done and it takes a certain amount of

capital just to run the fund just for

expenses and my CFO was like you should

shut down the fund we should fire these

people you should just trade your own

money whatever and I was like nope I'm

going to chop wood and my investor said

they're not going to quit me until I

quit them I'm not quitting and so

chopwood obviously made like 200 or

something per the next you know very

quickly and and and came back and made

the money in in the rest his history I

think a lot of people were like really

depressed and distru and I was just like

this is what we do if you're a boxer

you're going to get knocked down you're

going to get punched in the face right

if you're an insurance agent the storm

will come there will be the bad time

right like the plane will crash into the

whatever it is right it's going to

happen and that's the game we're in and

so if you can't handle that you you

shouldn't be in the field what's it like

to make an $100 million a year I don't

want to work for nothing so $100 million

is who gives a [ __ ] what I care about is

what experiences and choices is it going

to allow me to have when I like time

bucket out my life and the things I want

to do it's like okay I want to have

another kid I want I like riding trains

I want to be able to ride trains I want

to move from here to here what does this

cost Etc so and one of the things that I

I would want to have that I don't have

that the money would now afford me so I

think of those things call it money

Chuck-E-Cheese tokens whatever I I don't

give a [ __ ] I care about what choices

does this enable me to have so when you

make the money whatever is if it's $5 or

100 million or $55 million I'm like what

is that associated with I hear it all

the time it's like oh you have enough

I'm like you don't know what the you

talking about because you don't know you

you have no clue I can name like

probably 10 events and I'm not going to

do it because I don't want to be

ostentatious about it but as you make

more money you get exposed to more

things like just people that have never

been to a concert can't afford a concert

a lot of people have never flown out of

the country they don't know but until

you do it then this whole world opens up

and you're like oh chi-ching this is the

price tag how much is enough for you I

haven't really calculated number I think

I am actually at that point can you

share what the number is or around

nah but it's it's a I I think I'm close

to the point where I am purposely

identifying a thing like what am I

risking what I have to get more of what

I don't have you know what I mean like

why am I risking this my my time right

my time and my money why am I risking

this like if I'm risking this there's

got to be a reward right so I'm risking

my time and my money to get what and so

I identify the what I like renting a

yacht in the summer I like probably I'm

55 say I make it to 86 31 years probably

20 years of that 20 times The Yacht

Rental plus the wink plus the APA I'd

like that money that's not cheap so so I

can attach it though right like even if

it's not cheap like I can attach it to

like this is what I'm working for what's

been your biggest tax bill 54 million

yeah it hurts that's a big tax bill I

mean it also means you me a lot of money

but it's also you know it's a lot going

to the government it is most angering I

guess to everybody it doesn't really

matter when you see how that capital is

allocated like you realize that

obviously when you're shipping your

money off to a government entity that

you're not going to agree with

everything wh what is Bill Perkins

Secret Sauce because a lot of people can

watch this and I would say like hey I'm

going to be in Trader I'm going to go

join a firm and I'm going to work my

house off it's not like a lot of people

it like I guess the secret sauce is

enrolling people in my vision and

getting way badasses to be on my Vision

on the team and then execute most of the

time I'm trying to fire myself except

where I'm the tip of the spear so in

trading with my book I'm the tip of the

spear I have to use my own neurons Etc

but at the end of the day I know I'm not

the best person for whatever it is my

job is to like protect the vision and

hire other people to execute the vision

and so delegation giving a PE people you

know risking my capital in my time

getting them on Mission and letting them

run the show is like like my superpower

there's a millionaire for every field

doesn't matter if it's like sweatpants

sneakers shoe lastings food food

television media it doesn't matter

podcasting like doesn't matter there's a

millionaire in every single field if you

want to be Pizza Hut you can't be the

guy making the pizzas and delivering the

pizzas right you have to delegate and

you have to think strategically and then

you got to hire somebody else to run

that and then pick the next location and

that and then that and then you're the

guy who runs the vision but you're

probably not the best guy at all and I

have a lot of people like well I started

this and I built this they're attached

to it I'm just like okay you'll always

be a mom and pop and when somebody puts

a bullet in your head your business dies

but I can kill the whole Executive Suite

of IBM and it'll still keep going my

thing is is like I put people who are

better than me in positions to do

whatever it is the thing is like I'm

constantly I love to fire myself and

then it's just a machine most people

don't try not because they can't handle

the Financial Risk it's because they

can't handle the emotional shame of

their friends and the ridicule if they

fail right well if I fail then I'll be

here whatever like who cares you can get

a job as a a waiter and makes 50 70

grand a year on tips right like you got

the skills you got subject verb

agreement I'm sure you could be a waiter

but their ego won't let them be a waiter

or a garbage person or whatever right

and they're worried about oh see you

went and you started and you failed and

your friends your mom said you shouldn't

to do it or whatever but I don't care

that paralyzes so many more people than

that that are willing to admit it and I

just don't have that as much as

everybody else can you share for the

people that don't know about die with

zero really depends on your audience

like it's a counterfactual regret

minimization algorithm solving for net

fulfillment that's a programmer version

yeah that's a programmer version what

this book is is basically giving you the

mental models okay to solve for net

fulfillment there's a lot of books like

how to get rich and how to be wealthy

right like you have a million dollar

weekend million dollar weekend a lot of

podcasts whatever they're out there

they're great so takes your wealth

that's one variable it takes your health

there's a lot of books on health and

podcast and everything on health and

then your time those are the three

variables right because you're a human

being uh there's two things that are

given you will you will eventually die

and you will Decay and so given those

three variables how do we use those

resources throughout our life from

wherever we are to maximize for NE

fulfillment how do we allocate those

resources throughout your life so that

we can have the most fulfilling life

possible the assumption is is that the

purpose of life is to be fulfilled I'm

value agnostic I'm not like to be

fulfilled you should you know hike to

Himalayas and pray to the Buddha or be a

Muslim or I don't care what your values

are right your values could be strip

clubs it could be Checkers I'm saying

basically giving those variables how do

we think about each phase of our life

each day of our life and how do we

allocate these re resources throughout

the life to have the most fulfilling

life possible because you only get one

ride and that's what the book is about

in the book you actually say there's a

moment that changed your life where you

started thinking about spending more of

this money what was that story cuz you I

don't know if I saw it in the book so

there's a period in my life I read this

book called your money or your life but

by is it Robin and Dominguez or whatever

it's in the top 100 books almost every

year and it it is the the it is the book

that launched the fire movement have you

ever heard of the fire movement uh

Financial Independence retire early

that's kind of like their Bible so I

read this book and and the book

basically has you go through this

exercise where you take in all the money

you get net after taxes right and then

it now has you calculate all the time

you spend to get that money so that's

the commute to work you know going to

work the hours you work the commute back

right and any kind of if it's

decompression time or whatever that's

fine dressing whatever all the cost of

going to work the cost of transporting

work the costume you have to wear if you

have to wear a suit or whatever and then

once you have all that time and versus

your net you divide it you find out what

your true hourly an hour of your time is

worth because that's what you're willing

to spend your time for right so you

whatever let's say it's like five bucks

an hour at the time for me or whatever

seven bucks an hour and so it's very

dactic and it's very painful but then

after you've done that for a week each

penny right instead of looking at like

you know I'm going to the movies right

and it cost me you know $7 to go to

movies or $5 to movies at the time you

would say it's going to take an hour of

my life I'm going to give up an hour of

my life to go see this movie I'm going

to buy this shirt it's going to take 3

hours of my life and so it's really eye

opening like it's like you're like after

you've done that for a while like when

you start thinking of everything in time

that's 20 minutes that's 5 minutes the

sandwich is this right like it's like

you're in The Matrix you're like holy

[ __ ] you start to get in touch with your

values because sometimes you say things

you're like I'm not going to give up 3

hours of my life for this thing uh so I

became pretty Frugal like a master saver

buying you know what I mean like not

doing time Etc and I was working on the

exchange floor in a business where

you're trying to get rich and I was

talking to a friend at work uh about

like how I had saved $11,000 which was

like an astronomical amount of money to

save you know driving a limo at night

whatever and my boss at the time Joe

Farrell overheard that and he was like

are you a idiot like what are you doing

saving that money he's like you think

you came here to make $1,000 $2,000 he's

like go spend that money have fun he's

like you came here to make millions you

know he was just like leaned into me why

is my poor ass broke self saving money

to give it to my future Rich self right

this guy right here right not that I

knew I was going to be successful on

commodity trading but I was working at a

job at a lower salary for the

opportunity anyway like I could have

went and waited tables and made more

money like I I was like he's right and

so I kind of ping ponged from being

Frugal to spending money like water

right like I I went on one autopilot to

autopilot saving money to autopilot

spending money right like just going

absolutely nut like didn't matter how

much money I made I was spent every last

penny of it right and that's not the way

to be either but that was kind of like

the first like Snap into it right if I

don't want to spend hours of my life and

give up hours of my life for money and

not spend it that would be dumb like

actually give up hours of my life and

not spend it so I have to spend it down

before I die right and so I thought I

started thinking a lot about like when

is Max spend when when how does the

spend curve look Etc main thing is like

getting off autopilot like spend spend

spend spend or save save safe safe right

like it's like okay how what real

framework right what's an algorithm I

can have I actually wanted to build a

computer program to tell me so I

wouldn't have to think like I told you

I'm lazy as so I was like I wanted to

get like these programmers to get

together and I could just be like you

haven't spent enough money here's

activities that you should be doing that

you love whatever like literally like

the chat and tell me you know so I can

have the most fulfilling life what would

you recommend for someone who's making

50k which is a lot of the people out

there today you know they're not at

these you know crazy numbers yeah cuz

it's not about it's not about crazy

numbers it's about choices one of the

things that I don't do is like I don't

watch TV unless unless my wife wants to

watch a series and we're spending time

together and that you know we're bonding

and I will not watch TV I can watch

every single show that ever existed when

I'm 90 in in Old Folk's home eating

tapioca pudding right now I'm going to

go hiking I'm going to go biking or

whatever there's no money right it's

just optimizing my time here on planet

Earth right because if you do it wrong

if you're like I watch Friends all this

time and all this TV and now I'm going

to do the hell skiing or whatever but I

can't cuz my back hurts or I don't have

the lung capacity you missed out the

person at 50k still gets the diet with

zero philosophy it's not about having a

bunch of money it's about having the

mental framework to get the maximum

fulfillment at any wealth level I've

said it before you might have heard me

say life is like Tetris if you don't get

the order right you don't get the high

score and so like you're married and

you're having two kids you're going to

the strip club days where earlier you

know what I mean this is not go to strip

club

it's really about thinking about the Arc

of your life what resources you have

your wealth health and time and how do I

make these decisions that's what the

book is about right like people say oh

this is for rich people no it's not it's

for every human being alive that wants

to have the most fulfilling life I love

that you made me think about my brother

where I don't think he likes he's a

doctor he doesn't care for patients he

doesn't like his job and I think he's

slowly pulling back from working and

trying to find the balance of getting

off autopilot and living not just like

okay got to work and then hopefully one

day I'm going to enjoy it and so I think

your book in this message is like let's

find that right balance where you're not

wasting these working hours where you

can have enjoyment hours especially

based on where your health is what

happens to people who have been like

going in doing the routine going to work

for years they've been doing it for 15

10 20 years they forgot what it's like

to be in the gym of Life they don't know

how to meet their neighbors and go to

dinner they don't even know how to pick

a restaurant that's not on a route to

work they don't know how to travel they

don't know they forgot all the things

that they really loved and even the

things that they think they love they

don't know how to do it they don't even

have the taste for it anymore and so

what I tell them is is like don't give

up it just takes time for you to ref

familiarize yourself with life like life

has been passing you by and those

muscles have been atrophying that's what

happens when people like oh I retire

what am I'm going to do I'm like are

youing kidding me of the infinite

gajillion things you can do in life

you're just like what am I going to do

then what am I going to do norons have

even decayed right this is not you live

my life like I am like the worst role

model there ever was like I've made so

many goddamn mistakes like the reason

why I know [ __ ] is because I made enough

mistakes to like that [ __ ] don't work I

got divorced gone broke I've been angry

I've been not forgiving people I've done

a lot of things like I've done a lot of

things that are like not good I'm not

the role model right I was curious

advice for marriage cuz you said you

were divorced and you had a regret wow

there's so many pieces of advice people

and they're so much better than me but I

think one of the things is like

forgiveness is like the he's so huge and

you have to forgive yourself and then

two a lot of people have the belief that

you discover the person you find the

right person I think that's actually

[ __ ] I think you actually build you

find somebody you can build with and you

keep building that person's going to

change the [ __ ] pipe's going to break

whatever it's always maintenance and

it's always work and so if you're always

working you can always be in

Integrity then you can always build and

so you build a life in that partnership

you don't find somebody it's like I got

the person and now I don't love them

anymore or what you don't find that's

Hollywood [ __ ] you find somebody

that's compatible with a builder they

commit to building and you build a life

together and you're always building

forever do you regret divorce it's weird

because it's like it's one of those

questions it's like would you change who

you know I mean if I if I don't get

divorced now like I don't have this life

or whatever I regret who I was and I

regret the mistakes of not doing my

bests I regret when I don't do my bests

you don't regret working too much or

yeah there's times I definitely regret

working too much and that's just me

being on autopilot and not thinking

about wait that [ __ ] go hang out with

your kids and read another story if I

was thinking if I was like really

thinking about it not just in the moment

in that time but the total Arc of my

life right and their life and how

everything fits together you know like I

I no this people is like oh never have

any regrets I'm like I I I regret when I

don't do my best how do you like to

enjoy your money like the resources and

things you've done like what have been

some of the experiences that you're like

I mean most of it is like I think travel

is like if you said like what is like

like kind of like your thing like I like

challenging my world view and going

traveling and meeting people and seeing

different places how people live they

have a whole different way of life whole

different way of thinking things whole

different way of eating like the foods I

like are the things that have been

inculcated to like like I don't eat

fried crickets and [ __ ] that repulses me

because I didn't grow up eating fried

crickets right like so you I love

realizing like oh wow I've been TR a lot

of the things that I think like I love

this I've been trained to love and I

love doing that with friends and and and

and family you know if you said my best

purchases has been boats like that boat

holds 16 people we hang out we turn on

music everybody's learning something

that keeps you in a zone of learning so

you don't stay in a Land of frustration

too long and it doesn't get bored

because you can always learn something

so you're always in the zone of learning

and you're doing that with friends and

you're creating memories and you get to

talk about that later you're bonding and

meeting new people so I love things like

that that that's what you know turns me

on fulfills my life how else have you

enjoyed the money cuz I can't we came

here to your property you have like

there's a full-time security guard

there's like Two Chefs you were telling

me on the phone earlier you have a

driver see like there's like some kind

of cool ways that you've optimized

around that too yeah at first I didn't I

didn't want a a driver I thought it was

like very onti and [ __ ] like who the

gets a driver but I was talking to my

friend sanay and we were we were like we

were talking about longevity we're

actually talking about health and he

said one of the lowest hanging fruits

you can do now as a wealthy person was

to get a driver and the reason why is a

driver is not distracted they're not on

the phone you're not on the phone you

can tell them never go more than 5 miles

over the speed limit Etc and they're on

10 and two and then you actually change

the odds to equivalent or less than

flying deaths that is a life hack in

terms of my longevity on top of that I

get the productivity back because when

you're driving you know 20 minutes here

20 minutes an hour of my life gone that

I could be watching a podcast like yours

and learning about something or or or

reading or working or trading or

whatever you know those three variables

your wealth your health and your time

nothing's more important than your

health it affects everything like if

your knees areed up and you have knee

problems cuz you were 40 lbs overweight

for too long or whatever and you go to

Paris and it's a great walking City and

you can't walk around you just got like

one 100th of Paris right and so your

fulfillment score from God's view right

from the simulat like went way the down

right one of the things that I don't

have to think right like I don't have to

waste the neurons is is like my protein

fats and carbs intake they know it

when I go to a restaurant they tell me

what to order so it's not like a lot of

people like oh you have a chef to be a

fancy it's like no I just want to be a

healthy and living and I'm just

lazy what other what other things like

there is convenience factor out of it's

great like hey you know $40 an hour

people doing $10 an hour work and I'm

just like what the are you doing dude do

you know how much your neurons in your

body can produce with that time and

you're doing 10 like first of all give

somebody else a job get the velocity of

money going right and then free up your

time to pursue your other dreams or your

other other habits whatever the dream of

your life is I have people who ideate

like where to go I'm going to introduce

a random number generator for where to

go you're like why am I you just I'm

waiting I'm waiting for the idea okay

right so so if I do the things that I'm

going to travel like if I'm like hey I'm

going to go to Vietnam cuz I do want to

go to Vietnam if I want to go here I'm

already doing something cookie cutter

brought on to me by the culture it's

quasi original but if I have a random

number Joiner that says no you're going

to Kazakhstan cuz it just picked

Kazakhstan then I'm actually going to do

something unique and I'm going to

explore something and not just an

extension of that and so that's the

random number generator to get me out of

my own version of cookie cutter right

what are you teaching your kids about

money and the value of time like the

money and and values what are you

teaching your daughters hardest thing I

have teaching is my kids because they

see the end result and they don't get to

see the tire process so I try and show

them the process to get there but really

I try and teach them about happiness

like how to navigate the world to choose

the life they want I want them to

understand Net Present Value and future

value right like these are things like I

think every single human being on the

planet should understand very well and

that's something that like you have to

like give many examples so you know it's

like oh if you you can use it in a

health example it's like if you just eat

200 calories extra a day like one cookie

or one snack those bags or whatever

you'll be 36 to 40 pounds of weight in

two years right you save and you know

there's tons of you put in $200 a day

you'll have this at 65 like yeah I'm

like great thanks I'm not trying to have

a party at 65 trying to have a party now

what what values do you want them to

have I mean I it's like it's just

repetitive like I I realize like a lot

of things that my parents taught me like

it didn't sink in until later you know

it's just kind of like I just want them

to be kind compassionate intelligent

kids that can navigate the world if they

can be that then whatever CH whatever

they choose is what they choose so you

know one of the things I've been telling

my my youngest daughter and I tell other

daughters I'm like listen you don't have

to be anything not a thing I just want

you to do your best and some days your

best might be like you're a superstar

you're like LeBron James and everything

and sometimes your best might be like oh

my gosh it's enough but as long as you

know you're doing your best

that's it I already paid the dues for

everybody you know what I mean like just

do your best one of the person you're

famous like you know who's famous it's

pretty popular is danian with Dan is

there any story you can share because I

think in your book you had a little bit

but you didn't call him out and I know

I've seen some photos so I was curious

like what what stories or experience it

seems like he it seems at least from the

outside image they're some wild

experiences I mean Dan is Dan like he's

not he's not really it is a snapshot of

who he is but it is an authentic

snapshot he it's it's him he's pretty

like outspoken and he had this whole

hedonistic streak that basically has

made him miserable about that you know

because like the whole the whole thing

was like what gets you women more fame

or money we knew it was Fame but the

experiment was was how much more

powerful is Fame than money and it's not

10x or 20x what we thought it's like

100x or a,x and so that was the

experiment and then I was just like put

the breakes that's why when you were

like hey can I interview you we can this

will be a great Doc and we I was like no

I don't want to be the guy like you

don't understand I don't want to be more

famous I don't want whatever because

it's like I'm trying to live like I

wrote the book for me and I want to be

fulfilled and I want to enjoy my life

and there's these things I want to do

and if you get too famous you cannot do

them you just cannot and then you're in

a bubble and you're always hanging out

with the same people and other famous

people and you have security guards and

you don't get to have like just a normal

life like you can't just walk in like

these nice little shops in Italy and

look at the plates you can't do anything

and so that's the story I can to you

with Jan is like everywhere we go it's

especially outside the country it's a

zoo yeah I noticed he hasn't posted I

was just curious I know I was seeing you

and I know he's trying to not be

miserable because it's miserable you

know what I mean it's like very it's

like you give up so much like we hang

out with friends like we're going to go

travel here we're going to go surfing

and we're going to go here and it's like

half the activities we do he's like I'm

just going to stay on the boat or I'm

just going to or I can't go there or I

can't do this you know cuz it's like you

wind up like hating Humanity because

it's like a zombie movie for you yeah

it's it's horrible whereas I can I'm I'm

Anonymous I look like the pizza delivery

boy you know [ __ ] zip in and out some

recognition is fine it's like a dopamine

hit and people saying hey I appreciate

you wrote your book and thank you

whatever and they leave you alone they

don't need to go take a photo but like

imagine you're like ex level famous it's

just like you just it's a it's a zombie

it's a zombie movie so he around and he

found out that fame fame get you a

metric

Fon of the opposite sex yeah pursuing

you people you never would think would

sleep with you people you would never

think would behave in that way but it

robs you of everything else complet

completely robs you of everything else

any other stories from that you've seen

people read the book or your friends or

yourself I get I get a lot of feedback a

lot it's it's overwhelming cuz I don't

want to be the guy right like I wanted

to I wrote the book to save my own life

like consider like some people Journal

right and I just wanted an app and I was

like all right fine somebody I got I'm

going to write this book but this book

is for me this changed my life this

changed my parents life like I've like

had friends there was this real estate

something some guy got up started crying

it's like over helming it's too much

it's kind of it's kind of odd but it's

the best feedback right cuz I wrote it

to save my life and then I hope it saves

other people's lives right and then I'll

explain it because maybe some of your

people haven't heard the save your life

they like why the Bill Perkins thinks he

saving lives with what the it's just a

book but if when we were rake surfing

and you started drowning okay and I

jumped in got you out and I gave you

mouth to mouth right and you all

dramatic you you were like you saved his

life guess what you're still going to

die you're 100% going to die you're just

not going to die that day so what did I

actually do by pulling you out I gave

you more time I gave you more I love

yous I gave you more experiences I give

you time with your kids more more

Adventures I can do more side quests

more whatever that's what I did I gave

you more of that I just gave you more I

didn't you know cuz you're for [ __ ] sure

going to die so when I write a book

about optimizing your life and getting

more fulfillment what do I give them

more I love you more time with their

kids more their Adventures more side

quests more than they want right as

opposed to be an on all life waking up

at 65 and be like where the did my life

go where did my 40s go where did my 30s

go why did I miss out on this why didn't

I spend more time with my mom why did I

make this decision because they weren't

thinking they were on autopilot so

that's how I save people's lives and so

I truly believe that a lot of people

fear of running out of money or fear of

being embarrassed I fear about wasting

my life see as is the number one fear

and so that's what the book is about

that's why I'm saving lives saving my

life I love it you love it it's great

man great you're known for bets and I

I'll wrap up with this you know you know

I know you've done a few prop bets yeah

I'm not a big gambler but I was like

well we can end it with like the

audience doing some type of prop bet

maybe on their health maybe on enjoying

life more so I was like trying to think

on the drive here and like the past few

days like what would be a fun prop bet

to do together how about this I got one

for you cuz you can do your kid okay

you're out there surfing you're in the

zone of learning you have to do a 360 by

the end of the summer the out here

yes on the back you have to wake surf

and do a 360 land it and be in it stay

in the wave and stay standing

up all right I'll take that bet all

what's the steak th000 bucks done th000

bucks I can't wait till you land it I

hope you do it dude okay all right Bill

Perkins di with zero prop bets prop bets

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Key Vocabulary

Vocabulary	Meanings
secret /ˈsiːkrət/ B1	adjective - kept hidden from others noun - something kept hidden
million /ˈmɪljən/ B2	noun - a large number (1,000,000)
trade /treɪd/ B1	verb - to buy and sell goods noun - an exchange of goods or services
energy /ˈenərdʒi/ B1	noun - power or strength
risk /rɪsk/ B2	noun - the possibility of something bad happening verb - to take a chance
life /laɪf/ A2	noun - the condition of being alive
tax /tæks/ B1	noun - money paid to the government
dream /driːm/ B1	noun - a series of thoughts during sleep noun - a cherished aspiration
choice /tʃɔɪs/ B1	noun - the act of selecting
enable /ɪˈneɪbl/ B2	verb - to make something possible
allocate /ˈæləkeɪt/ C1	verb - to distribute resources
wealth /welθ/ B2	noun - abundance of valuable possessions
health /helθ/ A2	noun - the state of being well
time /taɪm/ A2	noun - the indefinite continued progress of existence
learn /lɜːrn/ A2	verb - to gain knowledge
build /bɪld/ B1	verb - to construct