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Welcome to Learning English, 00:03
a daily 30 minute program from the Voice of America. 00:06
I'm Ashley Thompson. 00:10
And I'm Mario Ritter junior. 00:12
This program is designed for English learners, 00:15
so we speak a little slower, and we use words and phrases, 00:19
especially written for people learning 00:24
English. 00:27
Today 00:30
you will hear stories from Bryan Lynn and John Russell. 00:31
Later, Jill Robbins presents an everyday grammar lesson 00:35
that centers on one punctuation mark 00:39
the possessive apostrophe. 00:43
Finally, Caty Weaver and I take you on a journey 00:45
to Crater Lake National Park. 00:49
But first. 00:53
An international group 00:55
of astronomers has joined efforts seeking to establish 00:57
a separate time zone for the moon. 01:03
The French based International Astronomical Union 01:08
IAU recently approved a resolution on the matter 01:13
during the group's General Assembly 01:18
meeting in Cape Town, South Africa. 01:20
The resolution calls 01:25
on space organizations around the world 01:27
to cooperate on establishing 01:30
a standard UD clock for the moon. 01:33
The Moon's orbital movements around Earth 01:37
make one day on the lunar surface equal 01:41
to 29.5 Earth days, 01:44
and because the moon has less 01:49
gravity compared to Earth, time moves slightly 01:51
faster there, about 58.7 01:56
microseconds quicker each day. 02:00
Susan Stewart is an astronomer 02:04
with the US Naval Observatory. 02:07
She helped create the resolution 02:11
at the IAU conference. 02:14
Stewart told the Associated Press 02:17
the aim of the measure is quite simple 02:20
to work together to establish a standard time. 02:24
Currently, moon operations run on the time of the country 02:29
that is launching spacecraft. 02:35
But supporters of creating a separate time zone 02:37
say this method will have to change 02:42
more countries and private space companies 02:45
are starting to launch their own moon missions. 02:49
Last year, the European Space Agency 02:54
ESA pushed for the creation of a lunar clock. 02:57
And earlier this year, the white House directed 03:02
the US space agency, NASA and other agencies 03:06
to come up with a timekeeping plan for the moon 03:11
by the end of 2026. 03:16
As noted, communication 03:19
and navigation systems built for the moon 03:22
will perform much better if they use the same timescale. 03:26
In addition, a separate time zone 03:32
will support the many other crewed and uncrewed missions 03:35
planned for the future, ESA said. 03:40
In the past, NASA also considered establishing 03:44
a separate time zone for the International Space Station. 03:49
I.s.s., but the agency decided against it. 03:54
Instead, the I.s.s. 03:59
runs on Coordinated Universal Time or UTC, 04:01
which is based on time capped by atomic clocks. 04:06
NASA officials say this system helps ease 04:12
the time difference between NASA and the Canadian Space Agency, 04:17
as well as other space partners in Russia, Japan and Europe. 04:22
The international 04:29
team looking at establishing a lunar time zone 04:30
has said it is still deciding whether a single organism mission 04:34
should be chosen to set and keep time on the moon. 04:39
Vagina's paddler is a physicist at the US Commerce Department's 04:44
National Institute of Standards and Technology. 04:50
He told the AP that astronomers are still deciding 04:55
on how a lunar clock would work. 05:00
Pat La said, I think the community has realized 05:04
that this needs to be done, and this is the beginning. 05:08
I'm Bryan Lynn. 05:13
A plan to build a huge 05:29
solar farm in Australia is a step closer. 05:31
After the Australian government gave environmental approvals 05:35
for the $19 billion project. 05:41
Recently. 05:44
Australian company Sun Cable plans 05:45
to build a 12,400 hectare solar 05:48
farm in a remote area of northern Australia. 05:53
The farm will 05:58
send electricity to the city of Darwin via 05:59
an 800 kilometer overhead transmission line. 06:03
Then the power will be transported 06:08
to large industrial customers in Singapore 06:11
through a 4300 kilometer submarine cable. 06:15
The Australia Asia Power Link project 06:21
aims to deliver up to six gigawatts 06:24
of green electricity each year. 06:27
Such a project. 06:31
Australian Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek suggested, would help 06:32
turn Australia into a renewable energy superpower 06:38
and boost its economy. 06:43
Plibersek said in a written statement 06:46
it will be the largest solar precinct in the world. 06:49
The project was first backed 06:54
by Australian mining businessman Andrew Forrest 06:56
and Atlassian co-founder Mike Cannon-Brookes. 07:01
The plans were discussed during a state visit 07:05
by then Singapore Prime Minister 07:09
Lee Hsien Loong and Australian 07:12
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, 07:15
as part of a green economy agreement in 2022. 07:18
In January 2023, 07:24
the project collapsed when Sun Cable was involved 07:27
in a financing dispute between Forrest and Cannon-Brookes. 07:31
By May of that year, a group 07:37
led by Cannon-Brookes Grok Ventures acquired the company, 07:39
finalizing the takeover. 07:44
In September 2023. 07:46
Sun Cable Australia's managing director, Cameron Gardens 07:49
Worthy, said it was pleased to have cleared a major legal issue. 07:54
He added that the company will now put its efforts into the next stage 08:00
of planning to work towards a final invest decision 08:05
targeted by 2027. 08:10
The company said electricity supply 08:14
would begin in the early 2030s. 08:16
Energy has been a politically charged issue 08:21
for nearly 20 years in Australia. 08:24
The country depends on coal and gas, 08:28
as well as money from exporting those fuels to help support its economy. 08:31
This dependance on 08:38
fossil fuels has historically made it 08:39
one of the world's worst greenhouse gas emitters. 08:42
On a per capita basis. 08:46
Australia's main opposition party in June 08:49
announced plans to build the country's first nuclear power plants 08:53
as early as 2035. 08:58
The announcement ensures the major parties will be divided on 09:01
how to reduce Australia's greenhouse gas emissions 09:06
at elections due within a year. 09:10
The parties have not gone to an election with the same carbon 09:14
reduction policies since 2007. 09:18
I'm John Russell. 09:23
The battle for the white House is set. 09:40
As Vice President Kamala Harris 09:43
officially accepts the Democratic Party nomination on Thursday 09:46
to run against former President Donald Trump. 09:50
The Republican nominee. 09:54
However, another fight is just starting among grammar 09:56
nerds over where to put the possessive apostrophe after her name. 10:01
Is it Harris apostrophe 10:06
or Harris apostrophe? S? 10:09
Eric Turk quits. 10:13
A New York lawyer called the debate Apostrophe Hill on the social media 10:14
website X. 10:19
It has since received more than 2 million views. 10:22
The Associated Press Stylebook 10:26
says use only an apostrophe for singular proper names 10:28
ending in the letter S, such as Dickens's 10:33
That's Dickens Apostrophe book. 10:38
Hercules is Hercules apostrophe. 10:43
Labor's, or Jesus's 10:47
Jesus apostrophe. 10:51
Life. 10:53
So for Harris, it is Harris, 10:55
followed by an apostrophe, as in Harris's policy. 10:58
The AP Stylebook is widely 11:03
used as the standard by American news organizations. 11:06
But not everyone agrees. 11:10
Three large U.S. 11:13
newspapers, The New York Times, The Washington 11:14
Post, and The Wall Street Journal all use. 11:17
Harris followed by an apostrophe and the letter 11:20
S, as in Harris's policy, 11:24
adding to the confusion. 11:29
They all agree that the singular possessive for Harris's running mate. 11:30
Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is Walz. 11:36
Apostrophe s. 11:40
As for the plural possessive, 11:42
it is Harris's 11:45
apostrophe or Harris's. 11:48
As in Harris's family home. 11:52
And w alcs apostrophe 11:55
s in Walz's cats. 11:59
Benjamin Dreyer is a retired 12:04
editor who worked for the publisher random House. 12:06
He wrote Dreyer's English and Utterly 12:10
Correct Guide to Clarity in Style. 12:13
He told the AP there is widespread agreement 12:17
that the lazy apostrophe s is correct. 12:20
But many flooded him with questions about what to do with the apostrophe. 12:25
After Harris 12:30
added the apostrophe and the letter S, Dreyer said 12:32
to set the apostrophe S 12:37
is just simpler, and then you can take 12:39
your valuable brain cells and apply them to more important things. 12:42
The American Dictionary publisher, Merriam Webster, joined 12:47
the debate with this reminder for names 12:50
that end in an S or Z sound. 12:53
You can either add apostrophe s 12:56
or just an apostrophe. 12:59
Going with apostrophe s is the more common choice. 13:03
The car that belongs to Jones, 13:07
John s apostrophe s car, 13:09
or John s apostrophe car. 13:13
Amanda Barrett is AP's vice 13:19
president for news standards and inclusion. 13:21
She said while the AP style has evolved over the years, 13:24
there are no plans to change the guidance 13:29
on the possessive apostrophe. S 13:31
Barrett added we do know 13:35
that the conversation is out there and people make different choices 13:38
when it comes to grammar and that's all fine. 13:42
Everyone makes a choice that works best for them. 13:46
Timothy Pouliot teaches linguistics at Dartmouth College in New Hampshire. 13:50
He said that until the 17th or 18th century, 13:56
the possessive of proper names ending in the letter S, 14:00
such as Jesus or Moses, often was simply the name 14:04
itself, with no apostrophe or additional s. 14:08
Eventually, the apostrophe 14:13
Jesus apostrophe or Moses apostrophe 14:15
was added to mark the possession, 14:19
although the pronunciation remained the same. 14:22
That became kind of the standard that I was taught and adhered to, 14:26
even though in retrospect I don't think it's a great standard, he said. 14:30
Pulu expects most people will use the apostrophe 14:35
followed by the letter S form over time. 14:39
As long as people are communicating successfully, 14:42
we say language is doing what it's supposed to be doing, he said. 14:46
If you can read it whichever 14:51
way is written, then it seems like it's working for people. 14:53
Michael Dukakis of 14:57
Massachusetts was the last US presidential candidate 14:59
whose name ended with the letter S. 15:03
Dukakis told the AP that he does not remember 15:06
any similar discussion when he was a Democratic nominee, 15:09
but he agrees with the AP. 15:15
It sounds to me like it would be s apostrophe 15:18
and that's it, he said. 15:22
If Harris wins in November, 15:25
she would become the fourth US president, 15:27
with a last name ending in the letter S 15:30
and the first since Rutherford B Hayes, 15:32
who was elected in 1876. 15:36
The Harris campaign has yet 15:40
to take a clear position. 15:42
Press releases issued by the campaign talked about Harris's. 15:45
That's with an apostrophe s puzzle division 15:49
and Harris's S apostrophe. 15:52
Seventh trip to Nevada. 15:56
I'm Jill Robbins. 15:59
Jill Robbins is here now 16:13
to talk more about that everyday grammar lesson. 16:14
Hi, Jill. Thanks for being here. 16:18
I'm always happy to talk with our podcast listeners. 16:21
I was wondering if we could talk a bit more 16:25
about the punctuation question in this week's Everyday Grammar? 16:27
Sure. 16:32
It is a question that has come up because the Democratic nominee 16:33
for president and vice president both have names that end with a sound 16:37
that's similar to our possessive in English. Yes. 16:41
So that would be Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. 16:45
And we usually add an apostrophe, a little mark next 16:50
to the last letter of a name and the letter 16:54
S to show possession. 16:58
Exactly. 17:01
The problem is you end up with two sounds that are the same next to each other. 17:02
Take my name Jill Robbins. 17:07
Using my first name is okay. 17:10
Jill's book is easy. 17:12
Jill apostrophe s, but add the apostrophe after my last name 17:14
and you get Doctor Robbins's class. 17:19
I'd write that Robbins apostrophe. 17:23
I noticed you added another sound after your name. 17:28
Robbins is. 17:32
The issue is, how do you write that? 17:34
We used to follow the rule that you just add 17:37
the punctuation, mark the apostrophe, and when you say it, 17:39
you add the reduced vowel sound up before the s sound. 17:43
But now people have started applying the rule 17:49
where you write another s after the apostrophe. 17:52
So it would be written r o b b 17:56
I and s apostrophe s. 17:59
That's it. 18:04
Similar to how I said I'd write my first name with an apostrophe s. 18:05
Jill's book. 18:09
It's just another example of how language 18:11
changes and people start to make new rules. 18:14
Well, thanks for being with us today, Jill, 18:18
and thanks for explaining the possessive apostrophe. 18:20
It's always a pleasure. 18:24
Ashley. 18:25
On our national parks journey, 18:43
we travel to the northwestern state of Oregon. 18:47
Here you will find a huge deep lake. 18:52
Its waters seem impossibly blue. 18:57
It is the deepest lake in America. 19:02
And one of the deepest lakes in the world. 19:06
Its water is among the clearest 19:11
and purest found on earth. 19:14
Around the lake runs the 19:18
wall of an extinct volcano. 19:21
In the middle of the lake, 19:24
a small island rises over 19:27
230m above the surface. 19:30
Welcome to Crater Lake National Park. 19:35
The lake's beauty inspires artists, 19:42
photographers and nature lovers. 19:46
That beauty was born 19:51
from the violent burst of Mount Mazama, 19:53
about 7700 years ago. 19:57
Hot liquid, called magma 20:02
rose from deep under the mountain, 20:06
causing it to collapse. 20:09
The powerful burst destroyed the surrounding area. 20:12
Huge amounts of ash fell on the land. 20:17
The burst also left an enormous 20:22
circular hole in the mountain's center. 20:26
Scientists call this a caldera. 20:30
Over the next hundreds of years, rain 20:35
and snow filled the hole with water. 20:39
Rainfall and snowfall 20:43
are the lake's only source of water. 20:46
It has no connections to the rivers and streams around it. 20:50
That is what keeps its waters so pure. 20:56
As water collected, 21:01
plants began to grow in the area again 21:03
and animals returned, 21:07
science to say it took about 250 years 21:10
for the lake to rise to its current water level. 21:15
Crater Lake is 592m deep. 21:20
It is one of the ten deepest on Earth. 21:26
But its depth is not 21:31
the only remarkable quality. 21:33
People are odd by its water 21:36
color and clarity. 21:39
Crater Lake is so clear that on most days 21:42
you can see nearly 30m below the surface. 21:47
The lake takes on its intense 21:53
blue color because of the water's clarity. 21:56
Sunlight reaches deep into the water. 22:01
Crater Lake gets its name from. 22:05
Geology. 22:08
A crater is a large bowl 22:10
shaped area on top of a volcano. 22:13
The crater that formed the lake 22:17
sits within the larger caldera. 22:20
Native Americans were in the area 22:24
even before the lake's formation. 22:28
Researchers have found artifacts buried under layers 22:32
of ash and dust from Mount Mazama. 22:37
Huge eruption following the burst, 22:41
Native Americans considered Crater 22:46
Lake to be a holy place. 22:49
Ancient Native American stories 22:53
describe the eruption of Mount Mazama. 22:56
European explorers and settlers 23:00
did not arrive in the area until the middle 1800s. 23:04
In 1865, 23:10
a hunter became one of the first non Native Americans 23:13
to reach the shores of Crater Lake. 23:19
In 1870, 23:23
a boy in Kansas read a newspaper article 23:26
about the strange lake in Oregon. 23:31
The story about Crater Lake 23:35
fascinated the young William Gladstone Steele. 23:38
He promised himself he would one day 23:43
see this lake. 23:47
In 1872, 23:50
Steele's family moved to Portland, Oregon. 23:53
About 375km north of the lake. 23:58
13 years later, 24:04
Steele honored his promise and visited Crater Lake. 24:07
Its beauty moved him greatly. 24:13
He began a 17 year fight 24:16
to preserve the area as a public park. 24:20
Steele was a writer. 24:26
He described one of his first visits 24:29
to Crater Lake in 1886. 24:32
In the west shore Magazine. 24:37
Not a foot of the land about the lake 24:41
has been touched or claimed. 24:43
And over mastering conviction came to me 24:46
that this wonderful spot must be saved, wild and beautiful, 24:49
just as it was for all future generations. 24:54
His proposal of creating a national park 24:59
did not please nearby sheepherders and miners. 25:04
But his efforts succeeded anyway. 25:10
On May 22nd, 1902, 25:14
Crater Lake became the country's 25:19
fifth national park. 25:22
It remains the only national park in Oregon, 25:25
and William Gladstone Steele 25:30
is called the father of Crater Lake. 25:33
Crater Lake National Park 25:38
covers 740km². 25:41
The lake itself makes up 25:47
less than 10% of the park. 25:49
It also includes surrounding 25:53
mountains and thick forests. 25:56
The trees shelter many kinds of animals, 26:00
from black bears to elk to spotted owls. 26:04
About 480,000 people 26:09
visit Crater Lake National Park each year. 26:13
They explore by car, bicycle or on foot. 26:18
Roads that encircle Crater Lake usually are open 26:25
from July through October, depending on whether 26:30
they provide breathtaking displays 26:35
of the lake's unusual blue color, 26:39
as well as the forests around it. 26:43
Crater Lake National Park 26:47
also has more than 140km of hiking trails. 26:49
The Clete Wood Cove Trail drops more than 200m 26:57
down to the edge of Crater Lake. 27:02
It leads to a spot where swimming is permitted. 27:06
The water is extremely cold. 27:12
Most swimmers cannot stay in 27:15
for more than a few minutes. 27:19
Crater lake's average water temperature 27:22
is just three degrees Celsius. 27:25
In summer, the lake's surface warms 27:30
to about ten degrees Celsius. 27:33
Visitors can also catch a boat 27:38
from the end of Clete Wood Cove Trail. 27:41
Park rangers lead visitors 27:45
on boat rides around the lake. 27:48
Visitors can also take boats to Wizard Island. 27:51
The piece of land sits 27:57
in the western part of the lake. 27:59
Volcanic eruptions formed Wizard Island. 28:03
It rises over 760m 28:07
above the lake floor. 28:12
However, most of the island 28:15
about 500m is underwater. 28:18
At Wizard Island, visitors can hike, 28:23
swim, and fish. 28:27
It is also a wonderful place 28:30
to relax and enjoy nature. 28:33
But such extraordinary places 28:37
can be found all over the park. 28:40
Discovering one's own is part of the magic 28:43
to experience at Crater Lake National Park. 28:48
I'm Ashley Thompson. 28:53
And I'm Caty Weaver. 28:55
And that's our program for today. 29:14
Join us again tomorrow to keep learning 29:17
English through stories from around the world. 29:20
I'm Ashley Thompson. 29:23
And I'm Mario Ritter Jr. 29:25

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[English]
Welcome to Learning English,
a daily 30 minute program from the Voice of America.
I'm Ashley Thompson.
And I'm Mario Ritter junior.
This program is designed for English learners,
so we speak a little slower, and we use words and phrases,
especially written for people learning
English.
Today
you will hear stories from Bryan Lynn and John Russell.
Later, Jill Robbins presents an everyday grammar lesson
that centers on one punctuation mark
the possessive apostrophe.
Finally, Caty Weaver and I take you on a journey
to Crater Lake National Park.
But first.
An international group
of astronomers has joined efforts seeking to establish
a separate time zone for the moon.
The French based International Astronomical Union
IAU recently approved a resolution on the matter
during the group's General Assembly
meeting in Cape Town, South Africa.
The resolution calls
on space organizations around the world
to cooperate on establishing
a standard UD clock for the moon.
The Moon's orbital movements around Earth
make one day on the lunar surface equal
to 29.5 Earth days,
and because the moon has less
gravity compared to Earth, time moves slightly
faster there, about 58.7
microseconds quicker each day.
Susan Stewart is an astronomer
with the US Naval Observatory.
She helped create the resolution
at the IAU conference.
Stewart told the Associated Press
the aim of the measure is quite simple
to work together to establish a standard time.
Currently, moon operations run on the time of the country
that is launching spacecraft.
But supporters of creating a separate time zone
say this method will have to change
more countries and private space companies
are starting to launch their own moon missions.
Last year, the European Space Agency
ESA pushed for the creation of a lunar clock.
And earlier this year, the white House directed
the US space agency, NASA and other agencies
to come up with a timekeeping plan for the moon
by the end of 2026.
As noted, communication
and navigation systems built for the moon
will perform much better if they use the same timescale.
In addition, a separate time zone
will support the many other crewed and uncrewed missions
planned for the future, ESA said.
In the past, NASA also considered establishing
a separate time zone for the International Space Station.
I.s.s., but the agency decided against it.
Instead, the I.s.s.
runs on Coordinated Universal Time or UTC,
which is based on time capped by atomic clocks.
NASA officials say this system helps ease
the time difference between NASA and the Canadian Space Agency,
as well as other space partners in Russia, Japan and Europe.
The international
team looking at establishing a lunar time zone
has said it is still deciding whether a single organism mission
should be chosen to set and keep time on the moon.
Vagina's paddler is a physicist at the US Commerce Department's
National Institute of Standards and Technology.
He told the AP that astronomers are still deciding
on how a lunar clock would work.
Pat La said, I think the community has realized
that this needs to be done, and this is the beginning.
I'm Bryan Lynn.
A plan to build a huge
solar farm in Australia is a step closer.
After the Australian government gave environmental approvals
for the $19 billion project.
Recently.
Australian company Sun Cable plans
to build a 12,400 hectare solar
farm in a remote area of northern Australia.
The farm will
send electricity to the city of Darwin via
an 800 kilometer overhead transmission line.
Then the power will be transported
to large industrial customers in Singapore
through a 4300 kilometer submarine cable.
The Australia Asia Power Link project
aims to deliver up to six gigawatts
of green electricity each year.
Such a project.
Australian Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek suggested, would help
turn Australia into a renewable energy superpower
and boost its economy.
Plibersek said in a written statement
it will be the largest solar precinct in the world.
The project was first backed
by Australian mining businessman Andrew Forrest
and Atlassian co-founder Mike Cannon-Brookes.
The plans were discussed during a state visit
by then Singapore Prime Minister
Lee Hsien Loong and Australian
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese,
as part of a green economy agreement in 2022.
In January 2023,
the project collapsed when Sun Cable was involved
in a financing dispute between Forrest and Cannon-Brookes.
By May of that year, a group
led by Cannon-Brookes Grok Ventures acquired the company,
finalizing the takeover.
In September 2023.
Sun Cable Australia's managing director, Cameron Gardens
Worthy, said it was pleased to have cleared a major legal issue.
He added that the company will now put its efforts into the next stage
of planning to work towards a final invest decision
targeted by 2027.
The company said electricity supply
would begin in the early 2030s.
Energy has been a politically charged issue
for nearly 20 years in Australia.
The country depends on coal and gas,
as well as money from exporting those fuels to help support its economy.
This dependance on
fossil fuels has historically made it
one of the world's worst greenhouse gas emitters.
On a per capita basis.
Australia's main opposition party in June
announced plans to build the country's first nuclear power plants
as early as 2035.
The announcement ensures the major parties will be divided on
how to reduce Australia's greenhouse gas emissions
at elections due within a year.
The parties have not gone to an election with the same carbon
reduction policies since 2007.
I'm John Russell.
The battle for the white House is set.
As Vice President Kamala Harris
officially accepts the Democratic Party nomination on Thursday
to run against former President Donald Trump.
The Republican nominee.
However, another fight is just starting among grammar
nerds over where to put the possessive apostrophe after her name.
Is it Harris apostrophe
or Harris apostrophe? S?
Eric Turk quits.
A New York lawyer called the debate Apostrophe Hill on the social media
website X.
It has since received more than 2 million views.
The Associated Press Stylebook
says use only an apostrophe for singular proper names
ending in the letter S, such as Dickens's
That's Dickens Apostrophe book.
Hercules is Hercules apostrophe.
Labor's, or Jesus's
Jesus apostrophe.
Life.
So for Harris, it is Harris,
followed by an apostrophe, as in Harris's policy.
The AP Stylebook is widely
used as the standard by American news organizations.
But not everyone agrees.
Three large U.S.
newspapers, The New York Times, The Washington
Post, and The Wall Street Journal all use.
Harris followed by an apostrophe and the letter
S, as in Harris's policy,
adding to the confusion.
They all agree that the singular possessive for Harris's running mate.
Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is Walz.
Apostrophe s.
As for the plural possessive,
it is Harris's
apostrophe or Harris's.
As in Harris's family home.
And w alcs apostrophe
s in Walz's cats.
Benjamin Dreyer is a retired
editor who worked for the publisher random House.
He wrote Dreyer's English and Utterly
Correct Guide to Clarity in Style.
He told the AP there is widespread agreement
that the lazy apostrophe s is correct.
But many flooded him with questions about what to do with the apostrophe.
After Harris
added the apostrophe and the letter S, Dreyer said
to set the apostrophe S
is just simpler, and then you can take
your valuable brain cells and apply them to more important things.
The American Dictionary publisher, Merriam Webster, joined
the debate with this reminder for names
that end in an S or Z sound.
You can either add apostrophe s
or just an apostrophe.
Going with apostrophe s is the more common choice.
The car that belongs to Jones,
John s apostrophe s car,
or John s apostrophe car.
Amanda Barrett is AP's vice
president for news standards and inclusion.
She said while the AP style has evolved over the years,
there are no plans to change the guidance
on the possessive apostrophe. S
Barrett added we do know
that the conversation is out there and people make different choices
when it comes to grammar and that's all fine.
Everyone makes a choice that works best for them.
Timothy Pouliot teaches linguistics at Dartmouth College in New Hampshire.
He said that until the 17th or 18th century,
the possessive of proper names ending in the letter S,
such as Jesus or Moses, often was simply the name
itself, with no apostrophe or additional s.
Eventually, the apostrophe
Jesus apostrophe or Moses apostrophe
was added to mark the possession,
although the pronunciation remained the same.
That became kind of the standard that I was taught and adhered to,
even though in retrospect I don't think it's a great standard, he said.
Pulu expects most people will use the apostrophe
followed by the letter S form over time.
As long as people are communicating successfully,
we say language is doing what it's supposed to be doing, he said.
If you can read it whichever
way is written, then it seems like it's working for people.
Michael Dukakis of
Massachusetts was the last US presidential candidate
whose name ended with the letter S.
Dukakis told the AP that he does not remember
any similar discussion when he was a Democratic nominee,
but he agrees with the AP.
It sounds to me like it would be s apostrophe
and that's it, he said.
If Harris wins in November,
she would become the fourth US president,
with a last name ending in the letter S
and the first since Rutherford B Hayes,
who was elected in 1876.
The Harris campaign has yet
to take a clear position.
Press releases issued by the campaign talked about Harris's.
That's with an apostrophe s puzzle division
and Harris's S apostrophe.
Seventh trip to Nevada.
I'm Jill Robbins.
Jill Robbins is here now
to talk more about that everyday grammar lesson.
Hi, Jill. Thanks for being here.
I'm always happy to talk with our podcast listeners.
I was wondering if we could talk a bit more
about the punctuation question in this week's Everyday Grammar?
Sure.
It is a question that has come up because the Democratic nominee
for president and vice president both have names that end with a sound
that's similar to our possessive in English. Yes.
So that would be Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
And we usually add an apostrophe, a little mark next
to the last letter of a name and the letter
S to show possession.
Exactly.
The problem is you end up with two sounds that are the same next to each other.
Take my name Jill Robbins.
Using my first name is okay.
Jill's book is easy.
Jill apostrophe s, but add the apostrophe after my last name
and you get Doctor Robbins's class.
I'd write that Robbins apostrophe.
I noticed you added another sound after your name.
Robbins is.
The issue is, how do you write that?
We used to follow the rule that you just add
the punctuation, mark the apostrophe, and when you say it,
you add the reduced vowel sound up before the s sound.
But now people have started applying the rule
where you write another s after the apostrophe.
So it would be written r o b b
I and s apostrophe s.
That's it.
Similar to how I said I'd write my first name with an apostrophe s.
Jill's book.
It's just another example of how language
changes and people start to make new rules.
Well, thanks for being with us today, Jill,
and thanks for explaining the possessive apostrophe.
It's always a pleasure.
Ashley.
On our national parks journey,
we travel to the northwestern state of Oregon.
Here you will find a huge deep lake.
Its waters seem impossibly blue.
It is the deepest lake in America.
And one of the deepest lakes in the world.
Its water is among the clearest
and purest found on earth.
Around the lake runs the
wall of an extinct volcano.
In the middle of the lake,
a small island rises over
230m above the surface.
Welcome to Crater Lake National Park.
The lake's beauty inspires artists,
photographers and nature lovers.
That beauty was born
from the violent burst of Mount Mazama,
about 7700 years ago.
Hot liquid, called magma
rose from deep under the mountain,
causing it to collapse.
The powerful burst destroyed the surrounding area.
Huge amounts of ash fell on the land.
The burst also left an enormous
circular hole in the mountain's center.
Scientists call this a caldera.
Over the next hundreds of years, rain
and snow filled the hole with water.
Rainfall and snowfall
are the lake's only source of water.
It has no connections to the rivers and streams around it.
That is what keeps its waters so pure.
As water collected,
plants began to grow in the area again
and animals returned,
science to say it took about 250 years
for the lake to rise to its current water level.
Crater Lake is 592m deep.
It is one of the ten deepest on Earth.
But its depth is not
the only remarkable quality.
People are odd by its water
color and clarity.
Crater Lake is so clear that on most days
you can see nearly 30m below the surface.
The lake takes on its intense
blue color because of the water's clarity.
Sunlight reaches deep into the water.
Crater Lake gets its name from.
Geology.
A crater is a large bowl
shaped area on top of a volcano.
The crater that formed the lake
sits within the larger caldera.
Native Americans were in the area
even before the lake's formation.
Researchers have found artifacts buried under layers
of ash and dust from Mount Mazama.
Huge eruption following the burst,
Native Americans considered Crater
Lake to be a holy place.
Ancient Native American stories
describe the eruption of Mount Mazama.
European explorers and settlers
did not arrive in the area until the middle 1800s.
In 1865,
a hunter became one of the first non Native Americans
to reach the shores of Crater Lake.
In 1870,
a boy in Kansas read a newspaper article
about the strange lake in Oregon.
The story about Crater Lake
fascinated the young William Gladstone Steele.
He promised himself he would one day
see this lake.
In 1872,
Steele's family moved to Portland, Oregon.
About 375km north of the lake.
13 years later,
Steele honored his promise and visited Crater Lake.
Its beauty moved him greatly.
He began a 17 year fight
to preserve the area as a public park.
Steele was a writer.
He described one of his first visits
to Crater Lake in 1886.
In the west shore Magazine.
Not a foot of the land about the lake
has been touched or claimed.
And over mastering conviction came to me
that this wonderful spot must be saved, wild and beautiful,
just as it was for all future generations.
His proposal of creating a national park
did not please nearby sheepherders and miners.
But his efforts succeeded anyway.
On May 22nd, 1902,
Crater Lake became the country's
fifth national park.
It remains the only national park in Oregon,
and William Gladstone Steele
is called the father of Crater Lake.
Crater Lake National Park
covers 740km².
The lake itself makes up
less than 10% of the park.
It also includes surrounding
mountains and thick forests.
The trees shelter many kinds of animals,
from black bears to elk to spotted owls.
About 480,000 people
visit Crater Lake National Park each year.
They explore by car, bicycle or on foot.
Roads that encircle Crater Lake usually are open
from July through October, depending on whether
they provide breathtaking displays
of the lake's unusual blue color,
as well as the forests around it.
Crater Lake National Park
also has more than 140km of hiking trails.
The Clete Wood Cove Trail drops more than 200m
down to the edge of Crater Lake.
It leads to a spot where swimming is permitted.
The water is extremely cold.
Most swimmers cannot stay in
for more than a few minutes.
Crater lake's average water temperature
is just three degrees Celsius.
In summer, the lake's surface warms
to about ten degrees Celsius.
Visitors can also catch a boat
from the end of Clete Wood Cove Trail.
Park rangers lead visitors
on boat rides around the lake.
Visitors can also take boats to Wizard Island.
The piece of land sits
in the western part of the lake.
Volcanic eruptions formed Wizard Island.
It rises over 760m
above the lake floor.
However, most of the island
about 500m is underwater.
At Wizard Island, visitors can hike,
swim, and fish.
It is also a wonderful place
to relax and enjoy nature.
But such extraordinary places
can be found all over the park.
Discovering one's own is part of the magic
to experience at Crater Lake National Park.
I'm Ashley Thompson.
And I'm Caty Weaver.
And that's our program for today.
Join us again tomorrow to keep learning
English through stories from around the world.
I'm Ashley Thompson.
And I'm Mario Ritter Jr.

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astronomers

əˈstrɒnəmərz

B2
  • noun
  • - scientists who study stars, planets, and other celestial bodies

establish

ɪˈstæblɪʃ

B1
  • verb
  • - to set up or create something officially

resolution

ˌrezəˈluːʃən

B2
  • noun
  • - a formal statement of a decision or expression of opinion

cooperate

koʊˈɒpəreɪt

B1
  • verb
  • - to work together to achieve a common goal

orbital

ˈɔːrbɪtl

C1
  • adjective
  • - relating to the path of a celestial body around another

lunar

ˈluːnər

B2
  • adjective
  • - relating to the moon

gravity

ˈɡrævɪti

B1
  • noun
  • - the force that attracts objects towards the center of the Earth

microseconds

ˈmaɪkrəʊˌsekəndz

C1
  • noun
  • - one millionth of a second

observatory

əbˈzɜːrvətɔːri

B2
  • noun
  • - a place where stars, planets, and other celestial bodies are observed

spacecraft

ˈspeɪskræft

B2
  • noun
  • - a vehicle designed to travel in space

missions

ˈmɪʃənz

B1
  • noun
  • - an important task or journey, especially involving space travel

timescale

ˈtaɪmskeɪl

C1
  • noun
  • - a system of measuring time

navigation

ˌnævɪˈɡeɪʃən

B2
  • noun
  • - the process of planning and following a route

uncrewed

ˌʌnˈkruːd

C1
  • adjective
  • - not having a crew or people on board

caldera

kəˈlɜːrə

C1
  • noun
  • - a large depression formed by the collapse of a volcano

artifacts

ˈɑːrtɪfækt

B2
  • noun
  • - objects made by humans, typically of cultural or historical interest

preserve

prɪˈzɜːrv

B1
  • verb
  • - to keep something in its original state or prevent it from being damaged

breathtaking

ˈbreθˌteɪkɪŋ

B2
  • adjective
  • - extremely beautiful or amazing

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