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大家好啊 00:17
非常高兴来到一席少年 00:18
和大家聊一聊这个《西游记》 00:20
我想作为一个中国人 00:23
肯定是从小就会接触到各式各样的《西游记》的故事 00:25
我想在座的各位可能心目当中 00:30
都至少会有4个《西游记》了 00:33
第一个《西游记》 00:38
那就是小时候在童书 00:39
在动画片 00:42
在电视剧里边看到的《西游记》 00:43
所以我们先不说这个 00:46
等到上了学之后 00:48
然后在语文课上是要接触到《西游记》的 00:51
因为这个是四大名著 00:56
有很高的文学地位 00:58
然后我们也知道就是一部作品 01:00
就是不管它本来是什么样的 01:03
一旦它进入了语文课 01:06
它就有一个解释系统 01:09
有一套答题技巧 01:12
对吧 01:14
所以大概就会变成现在卡片上这个样子 01:15
你看到这个 01:19
你可能会觉得 01:20
这个和小时候自己接触到的那个故事不太一样 01:21
但是我们都知道 01:28
在考试的分数面前 01:31
自己的体验算什么呢 01:33
对吧 01:36
所以即使你并不认同语文书上的一些判断 01:37
你也肯定是要照着它的答案写的 01:40
然后有些地方会要求所谓整本书阅读 01:45
让你去读《西游记》 01:49
我不知道在座有多少朋友真的读过《西游记》的原著 01:52
如果你看过的话 01:58
你只要一打开 01:59
你看到的是这个东西 02:00
你看到的是这样的文字 02:02
你可能会觉得这是什么啊 02:04
当然当然 02:06
把前面这些奇奇怪怪的话看过去之后 02:07
后面会发现哦 02:11
还是大家熟悉的孙悟空、唐僧、猪八戒的故事 02:12
反正据我所知很多朋友读《西游记》原著的时候 02:17
会觉得跟小时候看的故事不太一样 02:22
跟语文书上讲的那感觉也不太一样 02:26
有些地方好像比小时候看的故事还有意思 02:29
但是又有不少地方怪怪的 02:33
读不下去 02:35
很多人都有这样的感受 02:37
然后呢就要去寻找解释 02:40
寻找解释 02:43
现在网上关于《西游记》各种各样的解释当然也很多 02:44
会不停的有人要告诉你 02:48
我要告诉你一个真实的《西游记》 02:50
然后说哎呦 02:54
你千万不要被电视剧骗了啊 02:55
电视剧是儿童剧,合家欢 02:57
真实的《西游记》可暗黑了 02:59
然后还会有人跟你说《西游记》的作者不是吴承恩 03:02
当然这个是一个很常见的说法了啊 03:06
就《西游记》的作者其实是某一个高官 03:09
他是真的吃过见过的 03:13
所以《西游记》这个书里面包含着顶级的权谋 03:16
包含着最了不起的官场智慧 03:20
《西游记》真正的主题应该是什么样什么样是什么样的 03:22
这样的解释呢网上也很多 03:26
其实到底哪个解释才对 03:30
这个问题,到底哪个解释才对 03:34
这个问题也许本身就问错了 03:38
有没有可能 03:44
《西游记》根本就不存在一个合理的正确的解释 03:46
这里呢就要跟大家说一个概念 03:53
叫世代累积 03:57
就是《三国演义》也好 04:00
《水浒传》也好 04:02
《西游记》也好 04:04
这些故事都是长期的流传 04:05
然后呢你改一点 04:09
他改一点 04:11
今天这个作者加一点 04:12
明天那个作者呢加一点又删一点 04:13
然后最后累积下来 04:16
变成了我们今天看到的这个样子 04:19
由于这个作品本来就不是出自某个单一的作者之手 04:23
所以这个作品自然而然的 04:29
就充斥着各式各样的自相矛盾 04:32
《西游记》变成我们今天这个样子 04:36
大概呢有三拨作者都特别重要 04:40
不止三拨啊 04:44
只不过就是说我们时间关系 04:45
重点讲这个三拨 04:47
说第一拨作者之前呢 04:49
我们先关注一下《西游记》里的唐僧形象 04:51
我就给大家念一念原著啊 04:57
我不做任何的发挥 04:59
我们知道《西游记》里有这么一个情节 05:02
唐僧刚刚收孙悟空做徒弟后不久 05:05
就遇到谁了 05:09
小白龙对吧 05:12
然后小白龙出现干了个什么事 05:14
把唐僧的马吃了 05:17
唐僧知道自己的马被小白龙吃了之后是什么反应 05:19
我给大家念原著啊 05:24
既是他吃了 05:26
我如何前进 05:28
可怜啊这万水千山怎生走得 05:30
说着话泪如雨落 05:37
05:41
马丢了这个时候着急一点 05:42
焦虑一点很正常对吧 05:45
泪如雨落是不是 05:48
过分了一点 05:53
然后孙悟空看见唐僧哭起来了 05:55
就说你就不要着急嘛 05:57
对吧你在这坐着 05:59
我去找那个龙 06:01
让他还我马匹便了 06:03
唐僧什么反应 06:04
三藏却才扯住道 06:08
徒弟啊 06:10
你哪里寻他 06:11
只怕他暗地里窜将出来 06:14
却不又连我都害了 06:17
那时节人马两亡 06:19
怎生是好啊 06:22
所以难怪孙悟空忍不住要骂 06:24
师傅你莫要这等脓包形 06:28
也难怪不久后孙悟空见到了观音菩萨 06:33
就要撂挑子不干了 06:36
这个领导没法跟 06:38
唐僧的没用基本上是贯穿全书的 06:40
另外呢我们还会看到原著当中 06:44
唐僧的道德水平经常也显得有点可疑 06:47
在《西游记》当中 06:54
孙悟空曾经三次离开唐僧 06:58
离开唐僧的原因基本上是一样的 07:02
都是因为孙悟空杀了人 07:05
或者唐僧认为孙悟空杀了人 07:07
然后我们看一下 07:11
唐僧赶孙悟空走的时候 07:12
他的话是怎么说的 07:14
第14回 07:17
这是第一次赶走孙悟空 07:18
这个唐僧对孙悟空说的是 07:20
早还是山野中无人查考 07:24
若到城市 07:28
倘有人一时冲撞了你 07:29
你也行凶 07:32
拿着那棒子乱打伤人 07:33
我可做得白客 07:36
怎能脱身 07:38
然后第27回 07:41
三打白骨精 07:42
唐僧又对孙悟空说你在这荒郊野外 07:44
一连打死三人 07:48
还是无人检举 07:51
没有对头 07:52
倘到城市之中 07:54
人烟凑集之所 07:56
你拿了那哭丧棒 07:57
一时不知好歹 07:59
乱打起人来 08:01
闯出大祸 08:02
叫我怎得脱身 08:03
你回去罢 08:06
你注意唐僧两次赶走孙悟空 08:08
他最担心的是什么 08:11
他当然也会说一些人道主义的大道理 08:15
但是最终的落脚点 08:18
总归是落在害怕孙悟空连累自己 08:20
第三次赶走孙悟空 08:23
这次是遇到六耳猕猴那次 08:25
在遇到六耳猕猴之前 08:28
唐僧呢先被几个强盗吊起来了 08:30
这个时候孙悟空也跟唐僧很久了 08:33
所以一开始做事比较有分寸 08:36
一伙强盗 08:39
孙悟空打死了两个强盗头子 08:41
但是让其他强盗他都放走了 08:43
这说明什么 08:46
孙悟空如果想把强盗全部打死 08:47
这些强盗跑得了吗 08:50
肯定跑不了的吧 08:51
所以说孙悟空是留着手的 08:53
这个时候正当防卫 08:55
妥妥的没有问题 08:57
可是唐僧的反应是什么 08:58
唐僧看着两个强盗头子的尸体说 09:02
那我得祷告一下 09:05
于是呢就开始念拜惟好汉 09:07
听祷原因 09:10
他噼里啪啦说了一大堆 09:11
我们就看下他最后几句 09:13
你到森罗殿下兴词 09:15
就是你到阎王爷跟前去告状那怎么样 09:18
倒树寻根 09:21
他姓孙我姓陈 09:23
各具异姓 09:24
冤有头债有主 09:25
切莫告我取经僧人 09:27
告孙悟空就行了啊 09:30
千万不要连累我 09:31
就这个样子 09:33
连旁边猪八戒看着都觉得有点看不下去了 09:33
猪八戒说师傅 09:37
你倒推了个干净啊 09:38
猴哥打的时候也没有我和沙师弟 09:40
于是唐僧真的就又搓了一把土 09:43
好汉告状 09:47
只告行者 09:49
也不干八戒、沙僧之事 09:50
作者在写这段的时候 09:55
有没有意识他把唐僧写的很猥琐 09:57
应该是有意识 10:01
应该是有意识 10:03
就是说他从心里边 10:05
就没有把那个唐僧当一个高僧看待 10:06
所以我们还会看到在《西游记》里边 10:10
唐僧经常表现的文化水平还不如孙悟空 10:13
在《西游记》里边呢 10:20
还有这么一个套路 10:21
就是到了一个环境险恶的地方 10:22
唐僧就说哎呦 10:26
徒弟们我们要小心啊 10:27
可能有危险 10:30
然后这个时候呢 10:31
孙悟空就出来安慰唐僧 10:33
孙悟空安慰唐僧的话都特别有意思 10:35
仔细琢磨一下啊 10:37
师傅,出家人莫说在家话 10:39
这句话是个什么话 10:43
老师你注意形象啊 10:46
对吧你是出家人 10:49
这个就不像一般的学生提醒老师的话 10:51
对吧 10:54
然后孙悟空又继续提醒唐僧 10:56
你记得那乌巢和尚的《心经》吗 10:59
《心经》云心无挂碍 11:02
无挂碍,方无恐怖 11:04
远离颠倒梦想之言 11:06
但只是扫除心上垢 11:07
洗净耳边尘 11:10
不受苦中苦 11:11
难为人上人 11:12
孙悟空在给唐僧讲佛法 11:13
对吧唐僧你是凡人 11:18
面对妖怪你水平不行 11:21
这个是可以谅解的,对吧 11:23
但是连佛法也需要一只半路出家的猴子来给你讲 11:27
这是不是过分了一点 11:30
到最后孙悟空才讲 11:33
有问题我摆平 11:36
前面一大套话 11:38
孙悟空全部是以导师的口吻在跟唐僧说话 11:39
当然《西游记》里边唐僧没什么文化水平 11:43
那也就罢了 11:47
另外呢《西游记》我们说起来 11:49
很多人感觉它好像是一部弘扬佛教的小说 11:51
可是里边它涉及到佛教的知识 11:56
会犯很多常识错误 12:00
比如说 12:03
观音菩萨领了如来法旨 12:06
到长安城来物色取经人 12:09
当时呢就见到唐僧了 12:12
唐僧呢正在高台上讲佛经 12:14
然后观音菩萨就化身成一个老和尚 12:18
就跟唐僧说哎 12:23
你讲的是小乘教法 12:25
你会讲大乘教法吗 12:28
唐僧一听呢就态度很好 12:31
说哎呀 12:33
我还真的是不会大乘 12:34
因为我们东土大唐讲的都是小乘佛法 12:36
不知道大乘 12:40
可是只要稍微有一点点中国佛教史常识的话 12:43
就可以知道 12:48
中国的佛教一开始就是大乘为主 12:50
小乘佛教在中国一直是很边缘化的 12:53
所以这个说法完全不符合中国佛教的基本状况 12:58
再比如说如来佛呢 13:05
安排这个取经事宜的时候 13:08
他要宣传啊 13:10
要让东土大唐的人来取经 13:12
我的佛经很好啊 13:14
他就讲到 13:16
说我的佛经是什么样的 13:17
我有《法》一藏,谈天 13:19
《论》一藏,说地 13:22
《经》一藏,度鬼 13:24
这叫三藏 13:25
可是我们也知道 13:29
佛教里所谓三藏其实是指什么 13:30
这佛教的典籍分三大类 13:34
三大类都是宝藏 13:37
称为三藏 13:39
称为三藏 13:40
这个三大类分别是什么呢 13:41
一个是《经》 13:43
这是佛陀所教导的东西 13:44
一个是《律》 13:47
这个是佛陀制定的戒律 13:48
还有一个是《论》 13:50
是佛的弟子们阐释经律的著作 13:52
这个叫三藏 13:56
你会发现 13:57
《西游记》里边如来说的 13:58
和真的就是一般人所谓的佛教常识 14:01
完全不一致 14:06
所以啊 14:08
过去的很多研究《西游记》的学者都说 14:08
《西游记》的作者是根本不懂佛教的 14:12
但是这些年其实学术界的研究 14:16
还是有很多的新进展 14:19
发现呢《西游记》的作者呢 14:21
不是不懂佛教 14:23
他懂的是底层佛教 14:26
而恰恰是过去那些 14:28
受过高等教育的知识分子 14:33
他不懂底层佛教 14:35
所以就是《西游记》的作者掌握的佛教知识 14:38
和学者们掌握的佛教知识完全不挨着 14:42
是两个系统 14:45
这个关键的谜底 14:47
也就在这个“瑜伽之正宗”这句话里 14:49
就是明代啊 14:54
有一个特别的佛教宗派 14:55
叫瑜伽僧 14:58
它这个也是听音记字啊 14:59
它有很多不同的写法 15:01
可以叫瑜伽僧 15:03
也可以叫应赴僧应佛僧 15:04
这些僧人呢 15:08
他是干嘛的呢 15:09
他们主要的工作就是和老百姓打交道 15:11
做佛事,办水陆大会 15:15
超度亡魂 15:18
《西游记》的最早的一批作者 15:19
《西游记》的最早的一批作者 15:23
很可能就是瑜伽僧 15:24
或者和瑜伽僧有很密切的关系的人 15:27
所以现在我们读《西游记》 15:31
经常会忽视一个问题 15:34
就是唐僧为什么要去西天取经 15:35
说起来这好像应该是《西游记》的主题是吧 15:39
但是我们很多人读《西游记》的时候 15:43
是根本疏忽这一点的 15:44
《西游记》的主题是什么 15:47
唐僧为什么要去西天取经 15:49
其实这还真是小说里边 15:53
反反复复强调的一件事 15:56
唐僧想的就是要办一个高规格的水陆大会 15:59
好超度亡魂 16:05
唐僧出发之前就在讲这个事 16:07
西天路上 16:10
唐僧也不停地在念叨这个事 16:11
最后到了西天 16:14
取回了佛经 16:15
把佛经送回东土大唐 16:16
然后在干嘛 16:18
真的修建水陆大会 16:19
这是《西游记》最初的主题 16:22
可是我们今天大多数读《西游记》的人 16:25
可能会根本就把这个主题给忽视掉了 16:28
但是没有关系啊 16:32
这恰恰告诉了我们一个很深刻的道理 16:34
一部很优秀的作品 16:38
一部很好看的小说 16:40
它的主题是啥可能根本不重要 16:42
不要受中学语文教育 16:46
小学语文教育局限了 16:48
看看什么东西先就要找主题 16:49
其实很多吸引你的作品 16:52
它的主题是啥是无所谓的 16:54
甚至于你完全可以自己给它一个主题 16:56
当然 16:59
这里也有个问题啊 17:00
说《西游记》的第一批作者很可能是瑜伽僧 17:02
但是刚刚我讲的东西大家也感受到了 17:07
那个瑜伽僧形象的唐僧 17:10
在《西游记》里边很多时候是很搞笑的 17:12
是一个被嘲讽的对象 17:15
这又是为啥 17:18
于是就要说到《西游记》的第二拨作者 17:21
在讲第二拨作者之前 17:24
我现在也要岔开 17:27
说一个应该很多人都感兴趣的问题 17:29
如来佛和太上老君哪个厉害 17:35
很多人觉得这还用说吗 17:38
当然是如来佛厉害了对吧 17:40
太上老君把孙悟空丢到八卦炉里边 17:43
炼了七七四十九天 17:45
也没把人怎么样 17:47
孙悟空出来了 17:48
还把太上老君直接推一跟头 17:49
如来佛可真的是把孙悟空镇压了五百年啊 17:52
哎小说里是有这方面的情节 17:56
但是小说里还有另外一些情节 18:00
又流露出来好像太上老君是高于如来佛的 18:02
比如说啊 18:09
就在孙悟空大闹天宫的时候 18:09
孙悟空和二郎神正在打呢 18:12
当时天上玉皇大帝、王母娘娘 18:14
太上老君、观音菩萨都在观战嘛对吧 18:19
然后观音菩萨就说 18:24
这个你看 18:26
这个二郎神已经把孙悟空困住了 18:28
还差最后一击 18:30
你现在看我高空抛物 18:32
我就把这个猴头给拿下了 18:35
那抛什么呢 18:37
就观音菩萨说 18:39
我抛我那玉净瓶 18:40
然后这会太上老君就说 18:42
你不要抛那个 18:44
我这有个圈子 18:46
这个圈子呢叫金刚琢 18:48
它是锟钢抟炼的 18:51
又被我将还丹点成 18:53
我们先记一下这个概念啊 18:56
还丹 18:57
等会我再解释 18:58
太上老君说 18:59
我这个还丹点成的金刚琢特别厉害 19:00
厉害到什么地步呢 19:04
当年我过函关,化胡为佛 19:05
甚是亏他 19:08
化胡为佛是在说什么事 19:10
这是一个很古老的传说 19:12
就是佛教刚刚传入中国的时候 19:16
中国人呢 19:20
也不太了解佛教是个怎么回事 19:20
就是看着觉得 19:24
佛教的思想好像跟咱们中国的老子的思想是挺像的 19:25
老子喜欢讲无 19:32
佛教喜欢讲空 19:33
对吧很多观念都差不多嘛 19:35
都是讲,哎呀人间不值得 19:37
物质世界不要我们被它羁绊住了 19:40
我们的灵魂要另外寻找一个空虚之处 19:43
才好安放 19:46
都讲的这些道理 19:47
于是就产生了一个说法 19:49
什么说法呢 19:51
就是老子 19:52
按照道教的说法 19:55
老子就是太上老君啊 19:55
就是老子当年出函谷关往西边去 19:58
最后不知道去哪了 20:02
其实就是去了印度 20:03
在印度老子收佛陀为弟子 20:06
这个就是所谓的化胡为佛 20:10
这个说法当然是编造的 20:15
但明显这是一个对佛教的贬低的说法 20:18
可是《西游记》引用了这个说法 20:23
而且是太上老君当着观音菩萨的面在这么说 20:26
估计旁边玉皇大帝和王母娘娘听了都紧张 20:30
老君停停,过了过了啊 20:34
这个事别提 20:37
就是说《西游记》是认可老子 20:39
太上老君化胡为佛这个说法 20:42
另外呢从后文的有一些情节看 20:44
也会感觉呢 20:48
好像如来佛有时候在太上老君面前有点虚 20:51
比如说 20:55
朋友们应该对这个故事有印象啊 20:56
就太上老君的那个坐骑青牛精 20:58
下界为妖了 21:02
他就把那个金刚琢也偷下去了嘛 21:03
然后孙悟空请了多少人 21:05
用了多少法宝 21:07
结果都被这个青牛精的这个圈子 21:09
歘的一下就收走了 21:12
然后孙悟空就去搬救兵啊 21:14
搬了多少救兵都没用 21:17
最后就直接去找如来佛了 21:18
如来佛当时说了这么一番话 21:23
他说你碰到的那个妖怪啊 21:26
什么来历我知道 21:28
但是呢我不能跟你说 21:31
因为你这个猴子喜欢传话 21:34
一旦他知道了是我把谜底告诉了你 21:38
他就不与你斗 21:42
定要嚷上灵山 21:44
反遗祸于我也 21:46
你从这话看 21:48
这个如来佛对于青牛精还挺警惕的 21:50
是吧还挺警惕的 21:54
然后呢如来佛又吩咐 21:58
让十八罗汉取了十八粒金丹砂 22:00
说你们试一下和那个妖怪斗一斗 22:06
如果金丹砂又被那个妖怪收走了 22:08
你们就告诉孙悟空 22:11
去太上老君那去请他帮忙啊 22:13
然后这次孙悟空去见太上老君 22:17
太上老君就把那个化胡为佛的事又说了一遍 22:19
就是说太上老君化胡为佛这事 22:23
《西游记》还是多次强调的 22:27
而这个如来佛的金丹砂 22:29
去挑战太上老君的这个金刚琢 22:31
结果我们也知道最后是谁输了 22:35
这个问题啊 22:38
涉及到一点道教的理论 22:40
首先我们说这个丹是个什么东西 22:46
其实之所以叫丹 22:50
其实之所以叫丹 22:51
因为它是红色的 22:53
所谓丹砂 22:57
指的就是现在卡片上这个东西 22:58
它的化学成分呢是硫化汞 23:00
硫化汞加热我们知道会怎么样 23:03
分离为汞和硫 23:07
就这个知识呢 23:08
是我们这个初中化学的知识 23:09
我们今天会觉得这平平无奇 23:11
但是古代的道士觉得这个很神奇 23:12
尤其是他们注意到就是什么呢 23:16
就是说你把这个硫化汞加热 23:19
然后这个汞给分解出来了 23:21
然后你再往里边加入雄黄 23:23
哎又能练成丹砂 23:25
这个好神奇啊 23:27
怎么练着练着又回去了 23:29
回去这叫什么 23:31
还,所以叫还丹 23:34
因为这个过程可以反复进行 23:36
比方说折腾九次 23:38
那就叫九转大还丹 23:39
然后呢当然这种故事 23:42
这种功能 23:47
总是越讲越神的了 23:48
然后就讲到后来就变成了什么呢 23:50
就是九转大还丹 23:51
吃了就可以返老还童 23:53
还有把这个九转大还丹啊 23:56
你把它涂在你的钱上 23:58
今天你去买东西 24:01
把这个钱花出去了 24:02
明天呢你把皮夹子一打开 24:04
这个钱就又飞回来了 24:05
所以叫还 24:08
就又回来了 24:09
当然了现在的移动支付 24:11
让这招行不通了 24:14
这个就是科技打败魔法 24:15
对吧 24:17
总而言之 24:18
其实我们就可以看出是这样一个设定 24:19
如来佛用的金丹砂 24:21
这个是不成形的金丹 24:23
太上老君的金刚琢是成形的还丹点成的 24:27
所以最终结果不言而喻 24:31
最终结果不言而喻 24:34
当然那次较量还是太上老君赢了 24:35
《西游记》里边类似的情节其实还有不少 24:40
另外还有一个尤其有趣的地方在哪里呢 24:42
就是如来佛讲课的时候 24:46
《西游记》里边多次讲到如来佛讲课 24:52
长篇大论 24:54
有很多学者对如来佛讲课的内容进行了研究 24:56
结果发现了什么 25:00
如来佛讲课的内容 25:02
大量的是从全真教的典籍里边抄来的 25:03
就是讲的是道教的内容啊 25:10
所以过去曾经有一个说法啊 25:13
说《西游记》的作者是这个全真教的长春真人叫丘处机 25:16
这个说法曾经很流行 25:24
但现在当然大家可以肯定它是不对了 25:26
因为和丘处机有关的是另外一部《西游记》 25:28
那是一部讲地理的书 25:32
但是不管怎么说啊 25:34
《西游记》和全真教有很深的关联 25:36
这是可以有非常多的强有力的证据 25:40
也就是说 25:45
就是我们刚刚前面讲的那批 25:47
瑜伽僧是《西游记》的第一拨作者 25:50
后来呢这批全真教的人加入进来 25:53
他们在那改动《西游记》 25:55
这个是第二拨作者 25:57
但是第二拨作者的声音 26:00
并没有把第一拨作者的声音完全盖掉 26:02
所以读《西游记》经常有这个感觉 26:06
就是几拨作者在打架 26:09
笔给我,我来写 26:12
就是《西游记》本身就是有大量的自相矛盾的内容 26:15
当然,《西游记》变成我们今天熟悉的这个样子 26:22
还有第三拨作者也很重要 26:25
第三拨作者 26:29
鲁迅先生对他有一个评论 26:30
这个评论我不给大家完整的念了 26:35
我们就看两个字,能看清吧 26:37
游戏 26:40
就是说这个作者 26:42
对于他来说 26:44
他写这部小说 26:45
他最大的热情就是游戏 26:46
这是一个特别爱玩的人 26:48
所以 26:52
对于前面两拨作者互相攻击的内容 26:52
他也没删掉 26:56
哎互相攻击总是好看的嘛 26:57
另外呢 27:00
他自己也很善于骂人 27:01
用胡适的说法就是 27:04
这个作者是有一点爱骂人的玩世主义 27:06
而且还有一个我们要知道 27:11
古代《西游记》这部书写出来 27:13
他知不知道我写的是四大名著 27:16
知不知道我写的这部书比李白杜甫 27:19
可能对于中小学生来还要重要 27:21
他不知道的 27:25
他写这个书的目的是什么 27:25
一个是好玩 27:29
还有我要卖钱呐 27:30
这是一部商业著作呀 27:34
四大奇书 27:36
它这个创作出来很重要 27:36
一个目的都是和商业挂钩的 27:38
都是考虑到经济问题的 27:40
所以有的时候就是说 27:42
我把这个书赶紧推出来 27:44
比我把这个书整理的前后贯通 27:46
一点自相矛盾的都没有啊 27:50
这个要来的更重要 27:52
所以我们今天读《西游记》 27:54
一定要记住 27:58
就是说这不是一个作品 27:59
一个作者的作品 28:02
它是一个成于众手 28:03
因此充斥着自相矛盾的作品 28:05
但是你是不是有自相矛盾就不好 28:10
其实也不一定 28:12
有的时候正因为它自相矛盾 28:14
它可以反映古代社会方方面面的这个情况 28:16
然后还要注意一点 28:21
《西游记》虽然有很多波作者 28:24
但是这些作者文化水平其实都不高 28:27
时间关系 28:33
我没有办法展开说的太详细了 28:34
我们就从一个角度举例子 28:38
《西游记》里边有很多的诗 28:41
比如说我卡片上有这么一首 28:44
你们觉得这首诗写的怎么样 28:46
这是一首很有趣的顺口溜 28:48
古代的受过近体诗训练的诗人们都会认为 28:53
这是一首讨好没文化的人的诗 28:59
所以他们会忍不住评论 29:04
你这个书里边凑个十九八七六五四三二一 29:07
数字可厌 29:11
《西游记》里的诗写得很差 29:13
大多数水平都不高 29:14
为什么今天有越来越多的研究者觉得 29:17
吴承恩不会是《西游记》的作者 29:23
一个重要理由就是 29:28
吴承恩的诗文集是留到今天的 29:29
相比《西游记》原著 29:33
吴承恩的诗写得太好了 29:35
所以他不会是《西游记》的作者 29:39
但是问题是我们再换一个角度看 29:42
诗写得比《西游记》好又有什么了不起 29:46
明代的那些高级的知识分子 29:50
文化水平比《西游记》的作者要高 29:53
他们在那里主张 29:56
这个文必秦汉 29:58
诗必盛唐 30:01
这个主张不能说一点没有道理 30:02
但是你在写诗的时候 30:05
千方百计地模拟李白杜甫 30:07
你学的再像李白杜甫 30:10
你也不是李白杜甫 30:11
你在写文章的时候 30:13
你模仿司马迁班固 30:15
你学得再像司马迁班固 30:16
你也不是司马迁班固 30:18
然后你自己生活在这个时代 30:20
你这个时代有很多前所未有的东西 30:22
你这个时代也有很多新鲜活泼的语言 30:26
它不是典雅的文言文 30:29
但是真正和这个社会相关联 30:31
有旺盛的生命力 30:34
你不去写前人从来没有写过的题材 30:37
你不去使用前人从来没有使用过的语言 30:40
你不是辜负自己生活的时代吗 30:44
而这也恰恰是《西游记》《水浒传》这样的作品的价值所在 30:48
它们以传统标准而言 30:55
可能写的东西不高级 30:59
可是他们写了前所未有的东西 31:01
你在传统的标准下精雕细琢的去写 31:05
那是内卷 31:09
你写前所未有的东西 31:11
那才是开拓 31:13
86版央视《西游记》上映的时候 31:22
我呢还在上小学 31:25
我特别喜欢六小龄童演的孙悟空 31:28
但是六小龄童有一句话我特别不赞同 31:32
就是改编不是乱编 31:37
戏说不是胡说 31:41
什么样的改编是乱编 31:44
什么样的戏说是胡说 31:47
是没有办法精确定义的 31:49
你如果站在历史上 31:53
真实的玄奘法师的角度看 31:55
《西游记》原著就是乱编胡说 31:58
玄奘法师一代高僧 32:04
给《西游记》毁成啥样了 32:06
你如果站在《西游记》原著的角度说 32:09
86版电视剧其实也有很多胡编乱说 32:16
它删掉了很多东西不说了 32:21
它其实也加了很多的东西 32:22
比如说看过的朋友都知道 32:26
唐僧过女儿国的时候 32:30
对女儿国王有没有动心 32:32
动心了的 32:35
所以当时钱钟书先生 32:36
他没有用他的原名 32:38
他用了中枢这个笔名 32:39
他写了篇文章 32:45
就说什么电视剧让唐僧对女儿国国王动心了 32:48
凡心已动 32:54
只凭这一条 32:55
他就只比猪八戒略胜一筹 32:56
凭此一念之差 32:58
他领导去西天取经的资格就成问题了 33:00
也就是说 33:04
这个改编是极其不忠于原著的 33:04
可是我们也知道 33:08
这个改编打动了多少人 33:09
对于一部经典来说啊 33:15
有的时候 33:18
忠于原著真的不是最重要的标准 33:19
忠于原著 33:23
相当于把钱存在银行里面吃利息 33:23
我们知道现在利息还剩多少 33:27
而改编呢是投资 33:31
投资当然就有成功有失败 33:36
但是要带来更大的收益 33:39
那必须要投资 33:42
而不是吃利息 33:43
所以什么样的改编是胡编 33:46
什么样的戏说是乱说 33:49
这个应该由谁来定 33:51
由市场来筛选 33:55
事实上如果没有大量的劣质的胡编和戏说的话 33:59
优秀的改编 34:03
优秀的戏说也就失去了土壤 34:05
回想起来 34:09
我作为一个七十年代出生的人 34:10
我回想我的成长的经历 34:15
我们这一代人走过来 34:17
看了多少《西游记》的改编 34:19
小时候 34:23
我们看那个童恩正先生的《西游新记》 34:26
讲孙悟空猪八戒沙僧怎么样在美国念大学 34:30
八十年代我读了这本书 34:37
那个时候中国还相对闭塞 34:40
是它是这样的一部书 34:43
让我们初步的有了一个对美国的印象 34:45
然后到了九十年代看周星驰的《大话西游》 34:49
周星驰的《大话西游》 34:57
说实话现在回头看来 34:58
会从当中感到一股子气 34:59
这股子气是什么 35:02
就是大学里的年轻人刚刚走向社会 35:03
特别想要呐喊一声 35:07
不知道要喊什么 35:09
但就是想喊一嗓子 35:11
然后内心又有很多的失落与凄凉 35:13
《黑神话·悟空》我没有玩过 35:17
但是我相信它是一部好作品 35:21
马伯庸的《太白金星有点烦》 35:25
是我这两年读的最激动的小说 35:30
为什么呢 35:33
因为我们感受到时代的巨大的变化 35:34
当时代的精神 35:38
从下海的呐喊到上岸的呻吟 35:39
这个时候 35:43
读到一部固然有中二少年的寒心 35:44
但是也有官场老油条的热血的小说 35:48
激动人心 35:52
也就是说 35:54
一部书一部作品 35:56
只要它足够经典 35:57
它就会不断地被人解释 35:59
不断地被改编 36:01
不断地被再创作 36:03
而因为它不断地被解释 36:05
不断地被改编 36:07
不断地被再创作 36:08
它也就更加经典了 36:09
是因为在不停的变化 36:12
有了那么多拨作者 36:15
才有了我们今天看到的小说《西游记》 36:16
我期待的是我们更多的人加入进来 36:20
让未来有更璀璨的西游传奇 36:24
好我就要讲这个 36:28

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Hello everyone
I am very happy to come to Yixi Youth
to talk to you about "Journey to the West"
I think as a Chinese
I must have been exposed to various "Journey to the West" stories since childhood
I think everyone here may have at least 4 "Journey to the West" in their minds
...
The first "Journey to the West"
That is the "Journey to the West" that I saw in children's books
in cartoons
and in TV series
so let's not talk about it for now
until we go to school
Then we will be exposed to "Journey to the West" in Chinese class
because this is one of the four famous works
and has a high literary status
Then we also know that it is a work
No matter what it is.
Once it enters the Chinese class
it has an explanation system
There is a set of answering skills
right
So it will probably look like what is on the card now
When you see this
you may think that
this is different from the story you were exposed to when you were a child
But we all know
In front of the test scores
What is your own experience?
Right
So even if you don’t agree with some judgments in the Chinese language book
you must write according to its answers
Then some places will require so-called reading of the whole book
and let you read "Journey to the West"
I don't know how many friends here have actually read the original work of "Journey to the West"
If you have read it
You just need to open it
What you see is this thing
What you see is this text
You may think what is this
Of course, of course
After you look past these strange words
you will find out later
It is still the familiar story of Sun Wukong, Tang Monk, and Zhu Bajie
Anyway, as far as I know many friends read the original work of "Journey to the West"
It feels different from the stories I read when I was a kid
It also feels different from the Chinese language books
Some parts seem more interesting than the stories I read when I was a kid
But there are also many places that are weird
I can’t read
Many people have this feeling
Then I have to look for explanations
Look for explanations
There are of course many various explanations about "Journey to the West" on the Internet now
People will keep telling you
I want to tell you a real "Journey to the West"
And then say oh
You must not be deceived by the TV series
The TV series is a children's drama, family fun
The real "Journey to the West" is very dark
Then some people will tell you that the author of "Journey to the West" is not Wu Cheng'en
Of course this is a very common saying.
The author of "Journey to the West" is actually a certain high-ranking official
He has really seen it
Therefore, the book "Journey to the West" contains top-level tactics
Contains the most remarkable officialdom wisdom
What should the real theme of "Journey to the West" be like
There are many such explanations on the Internet
In fact, which explanation is correct
This question, which explanation is correct?
This question may be the wrong one.
Is it possible?
There is no reasonable and correct explanation for "Journey to the West" at all.
Here I will tell you a concept
called accumulation of generations. These stories have been circulated for a long time
...
...
...
...
Then you change a little
He changes a little
Today the author adds a little
Tomorrow the author adds a little and deletes a little
And finally it accumulates
and becomes what we see today
Since this work was not originally written by a single author
so this work comes naturally
It is full of all kinds of self-contradictions
"Journey to the West" has become what we are today
There are probably three groups of authors who are particularly important
More than three groups
It's just about our time relationship
Let's focus on these three groups
Before talking about the first group of authors
Let's first pay attention to the image of Tang Monk in "Journey to the West"
I'll just read the original work to everyone
I won't make any use of it
We know that there is such a plot in "Journey to the West"
Not long after Tang Monk accepted Sun Wukong as his apprentice
He met someone
Little White Dragon, right
Then Little White Dragon appeared and did something
Eat Tang Monk's horse
What was Tang Monk's reaction after knowing that his horse was eaten by the little white dragon
Let me read the original work to everyone
Since he ate it
How can I move forward
Poor people, how can they walk
As he spoke, tears fell like rain
Hey
Be anxious when the horse is lost
It’s normal to be anxious, right
Is it too much to shed tears like rain
A little too much
Then Sun Wukong saw Tang Monk crying
He said don’t worry
Right, you sit here
I’ll go find the dragon
Let him give me back the horse
How did Tang Monk react
But Sanzang stopped and said
Disciple
Where are you looking for him
I'm afraid he will come out secretly
But he won't even hurt me
At that time, both men and horses died
How can it be a good thing
So no wonder Sun Wukong couldn't help scolding
Master, don't want such a pustule shape
It's no wonder that soon after Sun Wukong met Guanyin Bodhisattva
he was about to give up his career
This leader could not follow
Tang Seng's uselessness is basically throughout the whole book
In addition, we will also see that in the original work
Tang Seng's moral level often seems a bit questionable
In "Journey to the West"
Sun Wukong left Tang Seng three times
The reasons for leaving Tang Seng are basically the same
They are all because Sun Wukong killed someone
Or Tang Seng thought Sun Wukong killed someone
Then let’s take a look
When Tang Seng drove Sun Wukong away
What did he say
Chapter 14
This is the first time to drive away Sun Wukong
What did Tang Seng say to Sun Wukong
There is no one to check in the mountains
If you come to the city
If someone bumps into you
You also commit murder
Use that stick to beat and hurt people
I can be a white guest
How can I escape
Then Chapter 27
Three Strikes of Bone Demons
Tang Monk said to Sun Wukong that you are in the wilderness
Killed three people in a row
Still no one reported
No opponent
If you go to the city
A crowded place
You took the mourning stick
I didn't know what to do for a while
Beat people randomly
Get into big trouble
How can I get away
Just go back
Please note that Tang Monk drove away Sun Wukong twice
What was he most worried about
Of course he would also say some humanitarian principles
But the final destination
was always the fear that Sun Wukong would harm himself
The third time he drove away Sun Wukong
This time was the time when he met the six-eared macaque
Before he met the six-eared macaque
Tang Monk was hanged up by several bandits first
At this time, Sun Wukong had also been with Tang Monk for a long time
So he acted more appropriately at the beginning
A group of bandits
Sun Wukong killed two bandit leaders
but let the other bandits go
What does this mean
If Sun Wukong wanted to kill all the bandits
Can these bandits escape?
Definitely can't run away
So Sun Wukong kept his hands
It was self-defense at this time
There is no problem
But what was Tang Monk's reaction
Tang Monk looked at the corpses of the two bandit leaders and said
Then I have to pray
So he started to pray to the hero
Reasons for listening to the prayer
He crackled a lot
Let's take a look at his last few sentences
How about you go to His Highness Sen Luo to come up with words
Or you can go to Lord Yama to complain
Falling down the tree to find the roots
His surname is Sun and my surname is Chen
Each has a different surname
Every injustice has its own owner
Don't accuse me of monks who collect scriptures
Just sue Sun Wukong
Don't get me involved
Just like this
Even Zhu Bajie next to him felt a little bit unbearable
Zhu Bajie said Master
You pushed him clean
Junior Brother Sha and I were not around when Brother Monkey fought
So Tang Monk really rubbed the dirt again
A good man complains
He only complains to those who practice
He doesn’t do anything like Bajie or Sha Seng
When he wrote this paragraph, did the author
realize that he wrote Tang Seng in a very vulgar way?
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So we will also see that in "Journey to the West"
Tang Seng's cultural level is not as good as Sun Wukong
In "Journey to the West"
There is also such a routine
That is to go to a dangerous place
Tang Seng said oh
Disciples, we must be careful
It may be dangerous
Then this time
Sun Wukong came out to comfort Tang Seng
Sun Wukong’s words to comfort Tang Seng were very interesting
Think about it carefully
Master, monks should not speak at home
What is this sentence
Teacher, please pay attention to your image
Right, you are a monk
This is not like what ordinary students would remind the teacher.
Right
Then Sun Wukong continued to remind Tang Monk
Do you remember the "Heart Sutra" written by Monk Wuchao? Sun Wukong is teaching Buddhism to Tang Monk
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Right, Monk Tang, you are a mortal
You are not good at facing monsters
This is understandable, right
But even Buddhism requires a monkey who has become a monk to teach you
Isn’t this a bit too much
Sun Wukong didn’t speak until the end
If there are any problems, I will solve them
A lot of clichés before
Sun Wukong talks to Monk Tang in the tone of his mentor
Of course, Monk Tang in "Journey to the West" has no cultural level
That's fine
In addition, when we talk about "Journey to the West"
many people feel that it is a novel that promotes Buddhism
But it involves Buddhist knowledge
and will make many common sense mistakes
For example
Guanyin Bodhisattva received the Tathagata's decree
and came to Chang'an City to look for people to collect Buddhist scriptures
At that time, he saw Tang Monk
Tang Monk was preaching Buddhist scriptures on the high platform
Then Guanyin Bodhisattva transformed into an old monk
and said to Tang Monk
What you are teaching is Hinayana teaching
Can you teach Mahayana teaching
Tang Monk had a very good attitude when he heard this
said oops
I really don’t know Mahayana
Because what we in the Eastern Tang Dynasty teach are all Hinayana Buddhism
I don’t know Mahayana
But as long as you have a little knowledge about the history of Chinese Buddhism
you can know
Chinese Buddhism was Mahayana as the mainstay from the beginning
Hinayana Buddhism has always been very marginalized in China
Therefore, this statement is completely inconsistent with the basic situation of Chinese Buddhism
Another example is the Tathagata Buddha
When arranging this matter of collecting scriptures,
he wanted to publicize it
He wanted people from the Eastern Tang Dynasty to come to collect scriptures
My Buddhist scriptures are very good
He talked about
what my Buddhist scriptures are like
I have a Tibetan collection of "Dharma" and talk about the sky
"The Treatise" has one treasure, speaking of the earth
"The Sutra" has one treasure to save ghosts
This is called the Tripitaka
But we also know
What the so-called Tripitaka in Buddhism actually refers to
The Buddhist scriptures are divided into three categories
The three categories are all treasures
It is called the Tripitaka
It is called the Tripitaka
What are these three categories
One is the "Sutra"
which is what the Buddha taught
the other is "The Vinaya"
which is the precepts established by the Buddha
and the other is "The Treatise"
which is a work by the Buddha's disciples explaining the sutras and laws
This is called Tripitaka
You will find
what the Tathagata said in "Journey to the West"
and Zhen is what most people call common sense about Buddhism
Completely inconsistent
So
Many scholars who studied "Journey to the West" in the past said
The author of "Journey to the West" did not understand Buddhism at all
However, in recent years, academic research
has still made a lot of new progress
It was found that the author of "Journey to the West"
It is not that he did not understand Buddhism
He understood underlying Buddhism
And it is precisely those
highly educated intellectuals in the past
who did not understand underlying Buddhism
Therefore, the Buddhist knowledge mastered by the author of "Journey to the West"
is completely different from the Buddhist knowledge mastered by scholars
They are two systems
The key answer to the mystery
is also in the sentence "The Authentic Tradition of Yoga"
It is the Ming Dynasty
There is a special Buddhist sect
called Yogi Monk
It also memorizes phonetic characters
It has many different ways of writing
It can be called Yogi Monk
or Yingfu Seng Yingfo Monk
What about these monks
What do they do
Their main job is to deal with the common people
Do Buddhist services and hold water and land conferences
Transcend the Dead
The earliest authors of "Journey to the West"
The earliest authors of "Journey to the West"
are probably yogi monks
or people who have a close relationship with yogi monks
So now when we read "Journey to the West"
we often overlook a question
That is why Monk Tang went to the West to obtain Buddhist scriptures
Speaking of which, this seems to be the theme of "Journey to the West", right
But many of us
completely ignore this point when reading "Journey to the West"
What is the theme of "Journey to the West"
Why did Tang Monk go to the West to learn scriptures
In fact, this is really
something that is emphasized repeatedly in the novel
What Tang Seng wanted to do was to hold a high-level water and land conference
to save the souls of the dead
Tang Seng was talking about this before setting off
Xitian Road
Tang Monk also kept talking about this matter
Finally arrived in the West
Retrieved the Buddhist scriptures
Returned the Buddhist scriptures to the Eastern Land of the Tang Dynasty
What are you doing next
Really building the Land and Water Conference
This is the original theme of "Journey to the West"
But most of us who read "Journey to the West" today
may simply ignore this theme
But it doesn't matter.
This just tells us a very profound truth
A very good work
A very good-looking novel
It may not matter what its theme is at all
Don’t accept middle school Chinese education
Primary school Chinese education is limited
When looking at something, you must first find the theme
In fact, there are many works that attract you
It doesn’t matter what its theme is
You can even give it a theme yourself
Of course
There is also a problem here
It is said that the first authors of "Journey to the West" were probably yogi monks
But everyone has also felt what I just said.
The Tang Monk in the image of a yogi monk
is often very funny in "Journey to the West"
is an object of ridicule
Why is this
So we will talk about the second group of authors of "Journey to the West"
Before talking about the second group of authors
I will also digress now
Let's talk about a question that should be of interest to many people
Which one is more powerful, Tathagata Buddha or Taishang Laojun
Many people think this is needless to say
Of course Tathagata Buddha is powerful, right
Taishang Laojun threw Sun Wukong into the Bagua furnace
After practicing for seventy-seven and forty-nine days
No harm was done to him
Sun Wukong came out
He even pushed Taishang Laojun to a somersault
Tathagata Buddha really suppressed Sun Wukong for five hundred years
Hey, there are plots about this in the novel
But there are other plots in the novel
It also appeared as if Taishang Laojun was higher than Tathagata Buddha
For example
When Sun Wukong was making a big fuss in the Heavenly Palace
Sun Wukong and Erlang Shen were fighting
At that time, the Jade Emperor and the Queen Mother
Taishang Laojun and Guanyin Bodhisattva were all watching the battle, right
Then Guanyin Bodhisattva said
Look at this
This Erlang God has trapped Sun Wukong
There is still one last blow
Look at me throwing objects from high altitude now
I will take down the monkey head
Then what to throw
Guanyin Bodhisattva said
I will throw my jade pure bottle
Then the Supreme Laojun will say
Don't throw that
I have a circle here
This circle is called King Kong Zhuo
It is made of Kun Steel
and I made it into a Huan Dan
Let’s remember this concept first
Huan Dan
I will explain it later
Taishang Laojun said
My King Kong Zhuo made from Huan Dan is particularly powerful
How powerful is it
When I passed Hanguan, I transformed a tiger into a Buddha
It was a great debt to him
What was he talking about when I transformed a tiger into a Buddha?
This is a very old legend
It was when Buddhism was first introduced to China
The Chinese people don't know much about Buddhism
I just looked at it and thought
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The thoughts of Buddhism seem to be quite similar to the thoughts of Lao Tzu in China
Lao Tzu likes to talk about nothingness
Buddhism likes to talk about emptiness
Right, many concepts are similar
They all say, oh, the world is not worth it
We don’t want us to be bound by the material world
Our souls have to find another empty place
to rest
These principles are all taught
So a saying was born
What's the saying?
It's Lao Tzu
According to Taoism,
I'm the Supreme Lord.
It's when I left Hangu Pass and went to the west.
I don't know where I went in the end.
In fact, I went to India.
In India, I accepted the Buddha as a disciple.
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But obviously this is a derogatory statement about Buddhism
But "Journey to the West" quoted this statement
And it was Taishang Laojun who said this in front of Guanyin Bodhisattva
I guess the Jade Emperor and the Queen Mother were nervous after hearing this
Laojun, stop, you have passed it
Don't mention this matter
That is to say, "Journey to the West" recognizes Laozi's statement
Taishang Laojun transformed Hu into a Buddha.
In addition, from some plots in the following text,
will also feel that
It seems that Tathagata Buddha is sometimes a little vain in front of Taishang Laojun.
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The lower realm is a monster
He just stole the King Kong Zhuo too
Then how many people did Sun Wukong invite
How many magic weapons did he use?
In the end, they were all taken away by the green bull spirit's circle
He took them away
Then Sun Wukong went to move reinforcements
No matter how many reinforcements he moved, it was useless
Finally, he went directly to Tathagata Buddha
Tathagata Buddha said this at the time
He said that the monster you met
I know its origin
But I can't tell you
Because you are a monkey who likes to spread the word
Once he knows that I told you the answer to the riddle
he will not fight with you
but will definitely go to Lingshan
and blame me
You can tell from this
This Tathagata is quite wary of the green bull spirit
Isn't he quite wary
Then the Tathagata gave instructions again
Let the Eighteen Arhats take eighteen grains of golden cinnabar
Tell you to try to fight with that monster
If the golden cinnabar is taken away by that monster again
Just tell Sun Wukong
Go to Taishang Laojun to ask him for help
Then this time Sun Wukong went to see Taishang Laojun
Taishang Laojun told him again about turning a tiger into a Buddha
That is to say, the matter of Taishang Laojun transforming Hu into a Buddha
"Journey to the West" has been emphasized many times
And this Tathagata Buddha's golden sand
went to challenge Taishang Laojun's diamond carving
As a result, we also know who lost in the end
This question involves a bit of Taoist theory
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First of all, let's talk about what this elixir is
In fact, the reason why it is called elixir
In fact, it is called Dan
because it is red
The so-called cinnabar
refers to the thing on the card now
Its chemical composition is mercury sulfide
We know what happens when mercury sulfide is heated
Separates into mercury and sulfur
That's all this knowledge
It is the knowledge of our junior high school chemistry
We may think this is ordinary today
But the ancient Taoist priests thought this was very magical
Especially what they noticed
That is to say, you heat the mercury sulfide
and then the mercury is decomposed
Then you add realgar to it
Hey, it can be made into cinnabar
This is so magical
Why do you go back after practicing
What is it called when we go back?
Return, so we call it the Return Pill
Because this process can be repeated
For example, nine times
Then it is called the Nine Turns Great Return Pill
And of course, this kind of story
This function
always gets more and more amazing
Then when we talk about it, what does it become?
It is the Nine Turns Great Return Pill
If you eat it, you will be able to rejuvenate your youth
And use this nine-turn great rejuvenation elixir
You put it on your money
Today you go shopping
Spend the money
Tomorrow when you open the wallet
the money will fly back
So call it back
and it will come back
Of course, today's mobile payment
Let this trick not work
This is technology defeating magic
Right
All in all
In fact, we can see that it is such a setting
The golden elixir used by Tathagata Buddha
This is the formless golden elixir
Taishang Laojun's Vajra Diamond is made of the formed elixir
So the final result is self-evident
The final result is self-evident
Of course, Taishang Laojun won that contest
There are actually many similar plots in "Journey to the West"
There is also a particularly interesting place
That is when Tathagata Buddha lectures
"Journey to the West" talks about Tathagata Buddha's lectures many times
Long story
Many scholars have studied the content of Tathagata Buddha's lectures
What was discovered
The contents of Tathagata Buddha's lectures
A large number of them were copied from the classics of the Quanzhen Sect
They are talking about the content of Taoism
So there was a saying in the past
That the author of "Journey to the West" was a Changchun man named Qiu Chuji from the Quanzhen Sect
This statement was once very popular
But now of course everyone can be sure that it is wrong
Because Qiu Chuji is related to another "Journey to the West"
It is a book about geography
But no matter how you say it
"Journey to the West" has a deep connection with Quanzhen Sect
This can have a lot of strong evidence
In other words,
is the batch we just talked about
Yogi is the first group of authors of "Journey to the West"
Later, this group of Quanzhen Sect people joined in
They were there to modify "Journey to the West"
This is the second group of authors
But the voices of the second group of authors
did not completely cover up the voices of the first group of authors
So I often feel like this when reading "Journey to the West"
It's like several groups of authors are fighting
Give me the pen and I will write
That is, "Journey to the West" itself contains a lot of self-contradictory content
Of course, "Journey to the West" became what we are familiar with today
The third group of authors is also very important
The third group of authors
Mr. Lu Xun had a comment about him
I won't read this comment in full
Let's just read two words so that you can see clearly
Game
That is to say, this author
For him
He wrote this novel
His biggest passion is games
He is a very playful person
So
He did not delete the content where the previous two groups of authors attacked each other
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Hey, attacking each other always looks good
In addition
He himself is also very good at swearing
In Hu Shi's words,
This author has a bit of cynicism that loves to curse
And there is another thing we need to know
The ancient "Journey to the West" was written
Does he know that I wrote one of the Four Great Classics
Does he know that the book I wrote is more important than Li Bai and Du Fu
It may be more important to primary and secondary school students
What he doesn't know
What is his purpose in writing this book
One is for fun
And I want to sell it for money
This is a business book
The Four Wonderful Books
It is very important to create it
One purpose is linked to business
All of them take into account economic issues
So sometimes I say
I will publish this book quickly
It is more coherent than I compiled this book
There is no contradiction at all
This is more important
So today we read "Journey to the West"
We must remember
That is to say, this is not a work
The work of one author
It is a work created by many hands
Therefore, it is full of self-contradictions
But it is not good if you have self-contradictions
In fact, it is not necessarily
Sometimes it is just because it is self-contradictory
It can reflect the situation in all aspects of ancient society
Then one thing to note
Although "Journey to the West" has many authors
but the cultural level of these authors is actually not high
Time relationship
I can't go into too much detail
Let's give an example from one angle
There are many poems in "Journey to the West"
For example, there is this one on my card
What do you think of this poem?
This is a very interesting jingle.
Ancient poets who were trained in modern poetry would think that
this is a poem that pleases uneducated people.
So they can’t help but comment.
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Most of the level is not high
Why are more and more researchers today thinking that
Wu Chengen will not be the author of "Journey to the West"
An important reason is that
Wu Chengen's collection of poems and essays is preserved to this day
Compared with the original work of "Journey to the West"
Wu Chengen's poems are too good
So he cannot be the author of "Journey to the West"
But the problem is that we look at it from another angle
What's so great about writing better poems than "Journey to the West"
Those high-level intellectuals in the Ming Dynasty
had a higher cultural level than the author of "Journey to the West"
They advocated
that literature must be from the Qin and Han Dynasties
poetry must be prosperous from the Tang Dynasty
This proposition cannot be said to be unreasonable
But when you write poetry
Try every possible means to imitate Li Bai and Du Fu
No matter how much you learn like Li Bai and Du Fu
you are not Li Bai and Du Fu
when you write an article
You imitate Sima Qian Ban Gu
No matter how much you learn like Sima Qian Ban Gu
you are not Sima Qian Ban Gu
Then you live in this era yourself
There are many unprecedented things in your era
There are also many fresh and lively languages in your era
It is not elegant classical Chinese
but it is truly relevant to this society
It has strong vitality
You don’t write about subjects that have never been written by predecessors
You don’t use languages that have never been used by predecessors
Aren’t you living up to the era you live in
And this is precisely the value of works such as "Journey to the West" and "Water Margin"
By traditional standards
their writing may not be advanced
But they have written something unprecedented
You write it meticulously under traditional standards
That is an internal volume
You write something unprecedented
That is pioneering
When the 1986 version of CCTV's "Journey to the West" was released
I was still in elementary school
I particularly liked the Monkey King played by Liu Xiaolingtong
But there is one sentence of Liu Xiaolingtong that I particularly disagree with
That is, adaptation is not random editing
Playing is not nonsense
What kind of adaptation is random making up
What kind of play is nonsense
There is no way to define it accurately
If you look at it from the perspective of the real Master Xuanzang in history
The original work of "Journey to the West" is just fabricated nonsense
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Master Xuanzang's generation of eminent monks
What kind of ruin did "Journey to the West" suffer
If you look at it from the perspective of the original work of "Journey to the West"
The 1986 version of the TV series actually also contains a lot of nonsense
It deleted a lot of things
It actually added a lot of things
For example, friends who have watched it all know
When Tang Monk lived in the Daughter Kingdom,
was he tempted by the daughter king?
He was tempted
So at that time, Mr. Qian Zhongshu
did not use his original name
He used the pen name of Center
He wrote an article
about what TV series made Tang Monk fall in love with the king of his daughter's kingdom
Fan Xin has been moved
Just by this one point
He is only slightly better than Zhu Bajie
By this difference in thought
His qualifications to lead the pilgrimage to the West is in question
In other words
This adaptation is extremely unfaithful to the original work
But we also know
How many people this adaptation has moved
For a classic
Sometimes
loyalty to the original work is really not the most important criterion
Loyalty to the original work
is equivalent to putting money in the bank to earn interest
We know how much interest is left now
And adaptation is an investment
Of course, investment will have successes and failures
But to bring greater profits
you must invest
rather than earn interest
So what kind of adaptation is nonsense
What kind of drama is nonsense
Who should decide this
Let the market screen
In fact, if there are not a large number of inferior nonsense and drama
Excellent adaptation
Excellent drama will lose its soil
Looking back
As a person born in the 1970s
I think back on my growing up experience
Our generation has come over
How many adaptations of "Journey to the West" have we read
When we were young
We read Mr. Tong Enzheng's "Journey to the West"
Talking about Sun Wukong, Pig Bajie, Sha Monk, and how he went to college in the United States
I read this book in the 1980s
At that time, China was still relatively isolated
It was a book like this
that gave us an initial impression of the United States
Then in the 1990s, we watched Stephen Chow's "Westward Journey"
Stephen Chow's "Westward Journey"
To be honest, looking back now
I feel a certain energy from it
What is this energy
It’s the young people in college who have just entered the society
I really want to shout
I don’t know what to shout
But I just want to shout
Then there is a lot of loss and desolation in my heart
I have not played "Black Myth Wukong"
But I believe it is a good work
Ma Boyong's "Taibai Venus is A Little Annoying"
It is the most exciting novel I have read in the past two years
Why
Because we feel the tremendous changes of the times
The spirit of the times
From the shouts at the sea to the moans on the shore
At this time
I read a novel that has the chill of a middle school boy
but also the passion of an officialdom veteran
exciting
That is to say
A book, a work
As long as it is classic enough
it will be constantly interpreted
constantly adapted
constantly recreated
And because it is constantly being interpreted
constantly adapted
constantly recreated
it will become even more classic
because it is constantly changing
There are so many authors
Only then did the novel "Journey to the West" we saw today
What I look forward to is that more of us will join in
Let there be a more brilliant Journey to the West legend in the future
OK, I will talk about this
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Vocabulary Meanings

novel

/ˈnɒv.əl/

B2
  • noun
  • - a long written story about imaginary people and events

author

/ˈɔː.θər/

A2
  • noun
  • - a person who writes books or articles

interpretation

/ɪnˌtɜː.prəˈteɪ.ʃən/

B2
  • noun
  • - an explanation of the meaning of something

theme

/θiːm/

B1
  • noun
  • - the main subject of a talk, book, film, etc.

adaptation

/ˌæd.əpˈteɪ.ʃən/

B2
  • noun
  • - a film, book, play, etc. that has been made from another book, film, play, etc.

contradiction

/ˌkɒn.trəˈdɪk.ʃən/

C1
  • noun
  • - a situation in which statements, ideas, or actions are opposed to each other

scholar

/ˈskɒl.ər/

B2
  • noun
  • - a person who studies a subject in great detail, especially at a university

manuscript

/ˈmæn.ju.skrɪpt/

C1
  • noun
  • - a handwritten or typed document, especially one to be published

wisdom

/ˈwɪz.dəm/

B1
  • noun
  • - the ability to use knowledge and experience to make good decisions

legend

/ˈledʒ.ənd/

B1
  • noun
  • - an old story that is widely believed but cannot be proved true

critical

/ˈkrɪt.ɪ.kəl/

B2
  • adjective
  • - expressing disapproval or judgment
  • adjective
  • - extremely important

audience

/ˈɔː.di.əns/

A2
  • noun
  • - the people who watch or listen to a show, concert, or speech

satire

/ˈsæ.taɪər/

C1
  • noun
  • - a way of criticizing people or ideas in a humorous way

intention

/ɪnˈten.ʃən/

B2
  • noun
  • - something you plan to do or achieve

reputation

/ˌrep.jəˈteɪ.ʃən/

B2
  • noun
  • - the opinion people have about someone or something

debate

/dɪˈbeɪt/

B2
  • noun
  • - a discussion in which people express different opinions about something

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