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People are amazing. Working together as 00:07
part of social groups, human beings have 00:11
created an enormously dynamic connected 00:13
world. We've become the species that has 00:16
been most successful on this planet. And 00:20
we do so because we cooperate. We work 00:23
within societies. 00:27
However, you may have noticed. We live 00:30
in a world full of conflict. We live in 00:33
a world which has a depleted 00:36
environment. We have a world of 00:39
increasing inequality 00:41
and millions of people migrating to try 00:44
and find a better life. 00:48
Now, the political environment which 00:51
this all takes place in is what we call 00:53
nationalism. We all live in these things 00:56
we call nations which creates a sense of 00:59
us and them. We live within borders and 01:02
we have a sense of self-interest and we 01:07
are told we need armies to protect us 01:10
through all of this. I want to ask a 01:13
tricky question. I want to ask is 01:17
nationalism good for you and is 01:20
nationalism good for this world? Now I'm 01:22
a social anthropologist. What we do is 01:25
we look at how society works. We look at 01:28
social cohesion. Why is it you feel 01:31
you're part of one group and not another 01:34
sort of group? And of course, if we're 01:37
interested in social cohesion and 01:39
groups, we are inevitably also 01:41
interested in conflict. 01:43
Now, the most amazing groups in a way 01:46
are nations. These are groups of 01:49
millions of people who all feel that 01:51
they're in some way the same. So it's 01:55
important that we critically understand 01:58
how nations work and what their impact 02:01
is. So firstly, I'm probably going to 02:04
surprise some of you with some 02:07
something. You may think that your 02:09
nation is hundreds and hundreds of years 02:12
old. I have to tell you that's almost 02:14
certainly wrong. 02:17
uh human beings through their existence 02:19
have lived in a whole range of different 02:22
sorts of political systems. But broadly 02:24
speaking, the group that was most 02:27
important to you would have been your 02:29
kith and your kin, the family you were 02:31
born into, your clan or your lineage. 02:34
Now, as societies got more complex and 02:37
you got hierarchies um with with leaders 02:40
and monarchies, uh society formed 02:44
through what we call the state. But 02:48
through most of that history, your kith 02:50
and your kin, your family would still 02:53
have been the most important group in 02:55
your life. They would have placed you in 02:58
the society that you're in. you would 03:00
have had rituals and symbols, religion 03:03
and myth that would have given you a 03:05
form of social cohesion. 03:07
Social and political scientists broadly 03:10
agree that the modern nation only really 03:13
comes in um and around the 19th and into 03:17
the 20th centuries. That's a sort of a 03:21
populist ethnational 03:24
group. This is after the reformation and 03:26
the enlightenment, industrialization, 03:29
urbanization, democratization and the 03:32
tensions between social classes that we 03:34
start to develop a sort of large 03:37
cohesive 03:40
sort of compliant social group. And this 03:42
may sound strange, but nations are 03:46
pretty much all the same. They're a 03:49
group of people who claim a particular 03:51
territory and they have a history that 03:54
legitimizes that with a narrative of 03:57
continuity over time, usually connected 04:00
to a language or religion or some 04:03
element of their social identity. 04:06
And that that history usually contains 04:10
stories of suffering particularly around 04:13
battles and wars and is full of heroes 04:16
and martyrs that the stories are told 04:19
of. And then you build statues to all 04:23
the heroes and martyrs and you come up 04:26
with flags and you have anthems. And 04:28
then you have playwrights and actors and 04:31
musicians who all start to present 04:34
emotionally how that nation hangs 04:37
together. 04:40
Um and and the people in that nation are 04:42
usually told and think that somehow they 04:44
are braver or better than other nations 04:47
and then occasionally you have a leader 04:50
who gets up and tries to persuade you 04:52
that they are the greatest nation. Okay. 04:54
And part of that you stereotype all of 04:58
your neighbors nations, right? We're all 05:02
very familiar with that sort of thing. 05:04
And that comes about because of what we 05:06
sometimes call everyday nationalism. How 05:09
do you become 05:11
part of these identities? You're sort of 05:13
born into it. You're given a name. All 05:16
around you are lots of street names and 05:19
and and building names which all connect 05:22
you to this history. You end up going to 05:25
school when you're taught a particular 05:29
history. And what's more, you're told 05:31
it's your history, right? And then there 05:33
are commemorations. There are museums 05:37
which will tell you about what your 05:40
history is. There's memorials. There's 05:42
memorial days. All right? But more than 05:44
that, there's events in your life. The 05:46
sporting events where you remember the 05:49
great wins or the great losses that your 05:51
nation has. And there are dramas on the 05:54
TV when all of this is explained to you. 05:57
And that's because the nation is 06:00
reproduced in our everyday life. Or to 06:03
put in another way, the nation is a 06:06
social construction. 06:09
So that your sense of self is intimately 06:11
linked to the group and it's emotionally 06:15
linked. It's been part of your life. 06:18
It's been part of your family's life. 06:21
It's part of your family's history. So 06:23
in that way, the idea of the nation is 06:25
linked to something which is very close 06:28
to you. And that will make people do 06:30
inspiring things, amazing things. It 06:32
makes people go and die in wars for this 06:35
huge large groups. That's actually 06:40
really quite an extraordinary thing to 06:43
think about. It's made people fight in 06:45
revolutions. This emotionalfilled idea 06:48
has also helped us build and define 06:51
rights for citizens and make citizens 06:55
feel protected so that the well-being of 06:58
the individual appears to be linked to 07:01
the well well-being of this large social 07:04
group. And I tell you who knows how this 07:07
work. Politicians know how this work. 07:09
Because when they want to get elected, 07:12
they will stand by the flag and they 07:14
will tell you that they best represent 07:17
your nation and they will make your 07:20
nation great again. 07:23
But there's another story to be told 07:26
about nations and nationalism. 07:28
The violence of the 19th and 20th 07:32
century saw millions and millions of 07:34
poor people die in the name of defending 07:38
their nation. 07:42
Ideas of superiority around race and 07:44
gender were built into nationalism and 07:48
empire. 07:52
European empires stormed across the 07:54
globe, invading other places and spaces. 07:57
And in fact oppos often inventing 08:00
new countries and often inventing new 08:05
countries we'd have complicated 08:07
ethnicities in which were almost 08:10
inevitably going to end in many of the 08:12
civil wars that we see today. Those 08:14
countries were exploit exploited um in 08:18
forms of extraction so that the empires 08:22
could survive. That is a complicated and 08:26
difficult world. So how do we remember 08:29
that history? Well, ironically, 08:33
we sort of remember the wars of that 08:36
time in a heroic sort of way. We put up 08:39
memorials and commemorate our people 08:43
that have died for that empire. 08:46
All right? We we we thank our 08:51
forefathers for the work that they have 08:53
done. This I suggest you is the politics 08:56
of the dead. We don't actually remember 09:00
a lot of other amazing things like you 09:04
scientists trying to cure malaria or or 09:07
or overcoming famine or the rights we've 09:10
managed to give to people or the 09:14
literacy we've spread around the world. 09:16
The stories of war seem more powerful 09:19
than all of this. 09:22
So I want to suggest something. Suggest 09:25
something a bit radical. 09:27
The debt we owe is not to the past. The 09:30
debt we owe is to the future. The debt 09:34
we owe is to the living and those yet to 09:38
come about. The debt we owe is the 09:41
future of our children. 09:44
Now, I can see a problem here, and you 09:48
can probably see a problem. You're going 09:51
to see to me, right, these nations are 09:52
just going to disappear in this amazing 09:55
world that I'm suggesting we could have. 09:57
Well, it is, of course, very, very 10:00
difficult. But there are things that 10:02
suggest that we might be up to that 10:04
challenge. We know humans are very good 10:06
at cooperating and very good at creating 10:10
solidarity. If you ask most people in 10:14
this room, they would accept that all 10:17
human beings, it should have basic human 10:19
rights. 10:23
Many of you will be part of enormous 10:25
generous processes to try and help 10:27
people in other parts of the world in 10:30
humanitarian projects. And we know we 10:33
have a common interest with people. We 10:35
experienced COVID. We're experiencing 10:38
everything that takes place in the 10:40
environment. All right? So we know we 10:42
need to work with the world in creating 10:45
a different place and we also know that 10:48
we're capable of organizing this because 10:52
ironically nations and world religions 10:54
work on a global scale. So we know we 10:58
can do these things. So I've got a few 11:00
suggestions. 11:04
Look again at nationalism. 11:06
Ask where it came from and when. and 11:09
don't get too sucked in to the myths and 11:13
the stories about your nation. 11:16
Secondly, I think we need to lose the 11:20
militarization 11:24
our nations appear to have been built 11:25
upon and we need to think about some 11:29
core values that we can share across 11:32
humanity. And I'm thinking of trust and 11:35
partnership. I'm thinking of reciprocity 11:38
and generosity. And I'm thinking of the 11:41
values of equality, justice, and human 11:44
rights. 11:48
Maybe we could have a few statues and 11:50
songs that remember humanity and 11:54
cooperation. 11:57
Nationalism, I think, is a uniquely 12:01
dangerous form of political organizing. 12:05
We need to understand it. 12:10
We need to build new bonds of solidarity 12:13
beyond the nation. And we need to do so 12:17
because we owe it to our children. 12:20

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[English]
People are amazing. Working together as
part of social groups, human beings have
created an enormously dynamic connected
world. We've become the species that has
been most successful on this planet. And
we do so because we cooperate. We work
within societies.
However, you may have noticed. We live
in a world full of conflict. We live in
a world which has a depleted
environment. We have a world of
increasing inequality
and millions of people migrating to try
and find a better life.
Now, the political environment which
this all takes place in is what we call
nationalism. We all live in these things
we call nations which creates a sense of
us and them. We live within borders and
we have a sense of self-interest and we
are told we need armies to protect us
through all of this. I want to ask a
tricky question. I want to ask is
nationalism good for you and is
nationalism good for this world? Now I'm
a social anthropologist. What we do is
we look at how society works. We look at
social cohesion. Why is it you feel
you're part of one group and not another
sort of group? And of course, if we're
interested in social cohesion and
groups, we are inevitably also
interested in conflict.
Now, the most amazing groups in a way
are nations. These are groups of
millions of people who all feel that
they're in some way the same. So it's
important that we critically understand
how nations work and what their impact
is. So firstly, I'm probably going to
surprise some of you with some
something. You may think that your
nation is hundreds and hundreds of years
old. I have to tell you that's almost
certainly wrong.
uh human beings through their existence
have lived in a whole range of different
sorts of political systems. But broadly
speaking, the group that was most
important to you would have been your
kith and your kin, the family you were
born into, your clan or your lineage.
Now, as societies got more complex and
you got hierarchies um with with leaders
and monarchies, uh society formed
through what we call the state. But
through most of that history, your kith
and your kin, your family would still
have been the most important group in
your life. They would have placed you in
the society that you're in. you would
have had rituals and symbols, religion
and myth that would have given you a
form of social cohesion.
Social and political scientists broadly
agree that the modern nation only really
comes in um and around the 19th and into
the 20th centuries. That's a sort of a
populist ethnational
group. This is after the reformation and
the enlightenment, industrialization,
urbanization, democratization and the
tensions between social classes that we
start to develop a sort of large
cohesive
sort of compliant social group. And this
may sound strange, but nations are
pretty much all the same. They're a
group of people who claim a particular
territory and they have a history that
legitimizes that with a narrative of
continuity over time, usually connected
to a language or religion or some
element of their social identity.
And that that history usually contains
stories of suffering particularly around
battles and wars and is full of heroes
and martyrs that the stories are told
of. And then you build statues to all
the heroes and martyrs and you come up
with flags and you have anthems. And
then you have playwrights and actors and
musicians who all start to present
emotionally how that nation hangs
together.
Um and and the people in that nation are
usually told and think that somehow they
are braver or better than other nations
and then occasionally you have a leader
who gets up and tries to persuade you
that they are the greatest nation. Okay.
And part of that you stereotype all of
your neighbors nations, right? We're all
very familiar with that sort of thing.
And that comes about because of what we
sometimes call everyday nationalism. How
do you become
part of these identities? You're sort of
born into it. You're given a name. All
around you are lots of street names and
and and building names which all connect
you to this history. You end up going to
school when you're taught a particular
history. And what's more, you're told
it's your history, right? And then there
are commemorations. There are museums
which will tell you about what your
history is. There's memorials. There's
memorial days. All right? But more than
that, there's events in your life. The
sporting events where you remember the
great wins or the great losses that your
nation has. And there are dramas on the
TV when all of this is explained to you.
And that's because the nation is
reproduced in our everyday life. Or to
put in another way, the nation is a
social construction.
So that your sense of self is intimately
linked to the group and it's emotionally
linked. It's been part of your life.
It's been part of your family's life.
It's part of your family's history. So
in that way, the idea of the nation is
linked to something which is very close
to you. And that will make people do
inspiring things, amazing things. It
makes people go and die in wars for this
huge large groups. That's actually
really quite an extraordinary thing to
think about. It's made people fight in
revolutions. This emotionalfilled idea
has also helped us build and define
rights for citizens and make citizens
feel protected so that the well-being of
the individual appears to be linked to
the well well-being of this large social
group. And I tell you who knows how this
work. Politicians know how this work.
Because when they want to get elected,
they will stand by the flag and they
will tell you that they best represent
your nation and they will make your
nation great again.
But there's another story to be told
about nations and nationalism.
The violence of the 19th and 20th
century saw millions and millions of
poor people die in the name of defending
their nation.
Ideas of superiority around race and
gender were built into nationalism and
empire.
European empires stormed across the
globe, invading other places and spaces.
And in fact oppos often inventing
new countries and often inventing new
countries we'd have complicated
ethnicities in which were almost
inevitably going to end in many of the
civil wars that we see today. Those
countries were exploit exploited um in
forms of extraction so that the empires
could survive. That is a complicated and
difficult world. So how do we remember
that history? Well, ironically,
we sort of remember the wars of that
time in a heroic sort of way. We put up
memorials and commemorate our people
that have died for that empire.
All right? We we we thank our
forefathers for the work that they have
done. This I suggest you is the politics
of the dead. We don't actually remember
a lot of other amazing things like you
scientists trying to cure malaria or or
or overcoming famine or the rights we've
managed to give to people or the
literacy we've spread around the world.
The stories of war seem more powerful
than all of this.
So I want to suggest something. Suggest
something a bit radical.
The debt we owe is not to the past. The
debt we owe is to the future. The debt
we owe is to the living and those yet to
come about. The debt we owe is the
future of our children.
Now, I can see a problem here, and you
can probably see a problem. You're going
to see to me, right, these nations are
just going to disappear in this amazing
world that I'm suggesting we could have.
Well, it is, of course, very, very
difficult. But there are things that
suggest that we might be up to that
challenge. We know humans are very good
at cooperating and very good at creating
solidarity. If you ask most people in
this room, they would accept that all
human beings, it should have basic human
rights.
Many of you will be part of enormous
generous processes to try and help
people in other parts of the world in
humanitarian projects. And we know we
have a common interest with people. We
experienced COVID. We're experiencing
everything that takes place in the
environment. All right? So we know we
need to work with the world in creating
a different place and we also know that
we're capable of organizing this because
ironically nations and world religions
work on a global scale. So we know we
can do these things. So I've got a few
suggestions.
Look again at nationalism.
Ask where it came from and when. and
don't get too sucked in to the myths and
the stories about your nation.
Secondly, I think we need to lose the
militarization
our nations appear to have been built
upon and we need to think about some
core values that we can share across
humanity. And I'm thinking of trust and
partnership. I'm thinking of reciprocity
and generosity. And I'm thinking of the
values of equality, justice, and human
rights.
Maybe we could have a few statues and
songs that remember humanity and
cooperation.
Nationalism, I think, is a uniquely
dangerous form of political organizing.
We need to understand it.
We need to build new bonds of solidarity
beyond the nation. And we need to do so
because we owe it to our children.

Key Vocabulary

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Vocabulary Meanings

dynamic

/daɪˈnæm.ɪk/

B2
  • adjective
  • - characterized by constant change, activity, or progress

cooperate

/koʊˈɒp.ər.eɪt/

B1
  • verb
  • - to work together toward the same end

inequality

/ˌɪn.ɪˈkwɒl.ə.ti/

B2
  • noun
  • - lack of equality; disparity

nationalism

/ˈnæʃ.ən.əl.ɪ.zəm/

C1
  • noun
  • - identification with one's own nation and support for its interests

anthropologist

/ˌæn.θrəˈpɒl.ə.dʒɪst/

C1
  • noun
  • - an expert in the study of human societies and cultures

cohesion

/koʊˈhiː.ʒən/

C2
  • noun
  • - the action or fact of forming a united whole

lineage

/ˈlɪn.i.ɪdʒ/

C1
  • noun
  • - direct descent from an ancestor; ancestry

hierarchy

/ˈhaɪə.rɑː.ki/

B2
  • noun
  • - a system in which members are ranked according to status

legitimize

/lɪˈdʒɪt.ə.maɪz/

C2
  • verb
  • - to make something conform to the law or rules

continuity

/ˌkɒn.tɪˈnjuː.ə.ti/

C1
  • noun
  • - the unbroken and consistent existence of something over time

martyr

/ˈmɑː.tər/

C2
  • noun
  • - a person who is killed because of their religious or other beliefs

stereotype

/ˈster.i.ə.taɪp/

B2
  • verb
  • - to view or represent as a stereotype

commemoration

/kəˌmem.əˈreɪ.ʃən/

C1
  • noun
  • - the action or fact of commemorating a dead person or past event

reciprocity

/ˌres.ɪˈprɒs.ə.ti/

C2
  • noun
  • - the practice of exchanging things with others for mutual benefit

militarization

/ˌmɪl.ɪ.tər.aɪˈzeɪ.ʃən/

C2
  • noun
  • - the action of process of preparing for war

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Key Grammar Structures

  • We've become the species that has been most successful on this planet.

    ➔ Present Perfect Tense

    ➔ Used to describe a state that started in the past and continues to have relevance in the present.

  • You may have noticed.

    ➔ Modal verb of probability (may) + Perfect Infinitive

    ➔ Used to speculate about a past action or event.

  • I want to ask is nationalism good for you and is nationalism good for this world?

    ➔ Indirect Question / Embedded Questions

    ➔ Integrating a direct question into another sentence by changing the structure.

  • You may think that your nation is hundreds and hundreds of years old.

    ➔ Object Clause (that-clause)

    ➔ A clause that functions as the direct object of the verb 'think'.

  • The group that was most important to you would have been your kith and your kin.

    ➔ Relative Clause & Modal Perfect (would have been)

    ➔ Used to describe a hypothetical situation or a past possibility/conclusion.

  • And that that history usually contains stories of suffering.

    ➔ Adverb of frequency (usually)

    ➔ Positioned before the main verb to indicate how often the action happens.

  • The nation is a social construction.

    ➔ Passive Voice (implied by noun phrase definition)

    ➔ This structure is used to define an abstract concept by linking it to a noun.

  • The debt we owe is to the future.

    ➔ Reduced Relative Clause

    ➔ The relative pronoun 'that' or 'which' is omitted after 'debt'.

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