[English]
Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Culips
English Podcast. How's it going? My name
is Andrew. I will be your host and your English
study buddy for today. And today we are going to
study with another news article. We learned with
a news article around a month ago, maybe a little
bit over a month ago. And I asked you guys if you
would like to do this on a somewhat regular basis
where we do a deep dive into a news article
together. And the response was very positive,
and many people said that they would like to do
this again. And so here we are. I've prepared
another article for you. In fact, I didn't really
do any preparation. The article that we're going
to read is completely 100% the same that you can
find on the website. It's an article by a writer
named Kif Leswing. And so, I'm going to put the
link to this article in the description for this
episode. So, you can go to the website and see it
for yourself. It's a 100% unedited or unchanged
document. And the plan here for this episode today
is that we are going to read through the article
together. I will read it to you so you can hear
my lovely voice and my perfect pronunciation. And
then I will break down and explain some of the
difficult or useful English vocabulary that we
will encounter in this article together. And so,
for our last article study, we actually read about
a murder case, and we've got something completely
different for you today. This is a tech and AI
related article and it's about live translation,
live translation. So, this is a new technology
that's coming about and it's really starting
to hit the market in a big way now. And so,
this article is all about that. And I think
it's relevant to us as language learners. You're
learning English. I learn Korean as a second
language. Maybe this is something that we don't
need to do in the future. I don't know. It raises
a lot of questions, and we'll talk about some of
those questions while we go through this article
today. And who do I think this episode is perfect
for? Well, guys, if you are at the intermediate
level and you want to hit the advanced level or
even if you're at like a high intermediate
advanced level and you really want to take
your English to the next level, I recommend this
lesson for you. If you're a beginner, maybe you'll
find it a little bit difficult. So, this is really
aimed at those intermediate, high intermediate,
even advanced level learners who want to
study with more advanced vocabulary and more
advanced expressions. Some of the expressions and
vocabulary that you maybe won't hear people use
in their everyday casual conversations. This is a
little bit higher level. So, it's perfect for you
if you're at that intermediate to advanced stage.
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for all of your support. And with that being
said, let's get started with today's article
study. Here we go. OK, so the title of this
article is, "Apple, Google and Meta are trying
to perfect a science fiction gadget: The universal
translator" And this was written, like I said,
by Kif Leswing. And the link to this article is
in the description for this episode, guys. So,
if you want to print it out or follow along on
your end, there is where you can find the article.
So, I'm just going to read through the article
together. We'll go paragraph by paragraph. And
after I read it, then we'll go back through it.
And if there's an interesting expression or word,
or maybe even if it brings up a question that
we should talk about, then we're going to pause,
and we'll do that. I'll explain the vocabulary, or
we'll talk about that question. So, let's proceed
with the article that way. The first paragraph
says: "For decades, shows like ‘Star Trek’ and
novels like ‘The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy’
have showcased fictional universal translators,
capable of seamlessly converting any language into
English and vice versa." OK, so a science fiction
gadget, the universal translator that we've seen
in science fiction movies and heard about in
science fiction books for a long time, right? A
universal translator is some kind of device that
can translate between all languages in the world,
maybe even all languages in the universe. So,
if you see some kind of device advertised as
“universal,” it means it works with everything.
Another common example that you'll see is
like “a universal adapter” for power. So,
if you travel from one country to the next
country, often the electrical plugs have a
different size hole that you need to plug your
device into, right? So, you need an adapter so
that you can change between country to country.
And we call that “a universal adapter.” There's
also “a universal remote control.” Maybe one
remote control that can control several devices
we would call, “a universal remote.” So, it's
a good adjective to describe things, devices,
gadgets that can control many things at once or do
many functions at once. In this case, translating
between all of the languages in the universe.
And it says that it can do this seamlessly. Now
“seamlessly” means smoothly without any problems
or interruptions. So, it's going to be a very fast
and smooth experience. Next paragraph is just a
sentence. And it says: "Now, those gadgets once
limited to works of science fiction are inching
close to reality." Inching closer to reality.
This is a nice expression to know, guys, “to inch
closer to [something].” And it just means slowly
becoming real or possible. So, you could imagine
maybe a caterpillar. That's what I think of.
Actually, we have this bug called an inchworm. And
an inchworm just crawls very slowly, inch by inch
by inch towards its destination. And so that's
the image that I have. We had this like science
fiction, technical dream. And it's slowly becoming
a reality. These universal translators are now
here. OK, so continuing. The next paragraph says:
"During its iPhone unveiling event on Tuesday,
Apple included a video of many travelers’ dream
scenario. It showed an English-speaking tourist
buying flowers in an unnamed Spanish-speaking
country. The florist addressed the tourist in
Spanish, but what the tourist heard was in clear,
coherent English." So, this is just a brand-new
device that Apple has introduced at its newest
iPhone event. They just announced the iPhone 17.
And at this event, they showed a demo of their new
live translation product. And yeah, we saw in the
video. I checked it out afterwards on YouTube
because I didn't attend the presentation. But
I saw this scene of an English-speaking traveler.
She's, it looked like she was in Spain, but some
Spanish-speaking country. And she bought flowers
from the florist. And she was able to do the
interaction using this live translation feature,
even though she doesn't speak Spanish herself. So,
she just was able to hear the Spanish-speaking
and get it translated into English right into her
ears. And then she showed the florist her phone.
And that's how her English was translated into
Spanish. So, Apple is promoting this new feature
that they've developed. Here in this paragraph,
we heard the word coherent. “Clear, coherent
English.” “Coherent” is a great word to know.
It just means clear and easy to understand.
So, I think probably for you and for every
English learner around the world, and for me
too with my Korean, it doesn't mean we have
to speak perfectly. Maybe a lot of us realize
that it's very difficult to speak perfectly,
but we do want to speak coherently. And that means
in a way that is clear and easy to understand. OK,
continuing. This is what the dialogue in this
demo video from Apple said. “‘Today all the red
carnations are 50% off,’ the tourist heard in
English in her headphones, at essentially the
same time that the clerk was speaking.” OK, so
it was a real-time translation heard through her
headphones. “The video was marketing material for
Apple’s latest AirPods Pro 3, but the feature is
one of many of its kind coming from tech companies
that also include Google parent Alphabet and Meta,
which owns Facebook and Instagram. Technological
advancements spurred by the arrival of OpenAI’s
ChatGPT in late 2022 have ushered in an
era of generative artificial intelligence.
Almost three years later, those advancements are
resulting in real-time language translators.” OK,
so let's talk about this paragraph in a little
bit more detail because there is some interesting
expressions here. First of all, this one is
really cool. “Spurred by,” or sometimes we
see it “spurred on by.” And the “spur,” I think
we've talked about it on the podcast before, this
expression. So maybe some of you recognize it.
But a spur is one of those devices that horseback
riders attach to their boots. And this allows them
to kick the horse and to make the horse go faster,
right? It like encourages or pushes the horse to
go faster. And so here, when we say “spurred by”
or “spurred on by [something]” it just means,
yeah, encouraged or pushed to go faster. So
ChatGPT arrived in late 2022. And because of
that, new technological advancements have been
encouraged and pushed. And in fact, this ushered
in an era of generative artificial intelligence.
That's the kind of artificial intelligence that
we can see in products like ChatGPT. So, “ushered
in.” An usher is somebody who works in like a
movie theater or a concert hall and maybe even
a sporting stadium. And they show the guests where
to sit, right? They help them to their seat. So,
we use this imagery behind this expression “to
usher in [something].” And it just means to start
or introduce a new period or change. So, it's
almost like ChatGPT is the usher. And it's saying
like, "OK, new technology, come in, come this
way." And it's like helping them get set up and
established. So ChatGPT is ushering in this new
era of technological development and advancements.
And one of those is these real-time language
translators. “Real-time” means instantly with no
delay in real-time. OK, so let's continue reading
through the article. The next paragraph says:
"For Apple, Live Translation is a key selling
point for the AirPods Pro 3, which the company
unveiled on Tuesday. The new $250 earbuds go on
sale next week, and with Live Translation, users
will be able to immediately hear French, German,
Portuguese and Spanish translated to English.
Live Translation will also arrive as an update
to AirPods 4 and AirPods Pro 2 on Monday." OK,
so interesting. Live translation is a key selling
point. “A selling point” is a very attractive,
new, enticing feature that will encourage people
to buy the new product. So, one of the new selling
points is the live translation feature. And
yeah, you'll be able to buy these new AirPods
Pro 3 if you want for $250. Kind of pricey. And
interestingly enough, there won't be support for
many languages. French, German, Portuguese, and
Spanish translated to English. And I don't know
if that goes both ways. It says French, German,
Portuguese, and Spanish translated to English. But
if you were to speak in English, would it come
out in German to a German user? I'm not sure.
Interestingly, also, I guess these languages are
pretty similar-ish, right? They're all European
languages, and they all probably share at least
Portuguese, Spanish, and French are going to share
a lot of similar vocabulary with English. And
maybe even German and English have quite a few
similarities as well. So, we don't see, like,
really different language pairs, right? You're
not being able to translate between Chinese and
English or Chinese and Korean or something like
that. So that is kind of interesting as well.
Just a handful of languages, really. OK, so let's
continue in the article. It says: "And when two
people are speaking to each other wearing AirPods,
the conversation can be translated both ways
simultaneously inside each user’s headphones.
In Apple’s video demo, it looked like two people
talking to each other in different languages." OK,
so I answered my own question there. Should have
just read ahead! It can be translated both ways.
So, you can go between all of the languages
in both ways simultaneously. “Simultaneously”
means happening at exactly the same time. So,
this translation between languages can happen
simultaneously. So, for example, if you are
a Spanish speaker and I'm an English speaker,
I could just pop in these AirPods, you could pop
in the AirPods, and you could speak in Spanish,
and I could speak in English, and we could
have a conversation back and forth in real
time. Apparently. OK, continuing with the article.
"Analysts are excited that the feature could mark
a step forward for Apple’s AI strategy. The
translation feature needs to be paired with
a new-enough iPhone to run Apple Intelligence,
Apple’s AI software suite." OK, so in order to use
this new feature, you do need to have a new-ish
iPhone, which can run their new AI, which they
are calling Apple Intelligence. And the vocabulary
that they used in the article here is nice. So,
I want to point it out. They said that the
translation feature must be paired with an iPhone.
So, you can't just use the AirPods on their own,
they must be paired with the iPhone. And this
means used together, or they need to go together
“to pair with [something].” I hear this expression
used a lot when talking about wine, wine pairings.
Maybe in the restaurant, you could ask your server
for a wine recommendation. And the server might
say, "Oh, since you ordered the chicken dish,
then I would recommend that you pair your chicken
dish with this wine." They go together well,
they complement each other. So, we hear it a lot
when talking about food and culinary choices,
wine choices, but also in this situation for
the two devices, the iPhone and the AirPods,
to work together with each other. OK, continuing
on. “‘If we can actually use the AirPods for
live translations, that’s a feature that would
actually get people to upgrade,’ DA Davidson
analyst Gil Luria told CNBC on Wednesday.” OK, so
interesting here, this quote from an analyst that
works at the company called DA Davidson, I guess
that's the name of the firm, the business firm,
and the analyst's name there, Gil Luria. I like
his quote because he uses this word, “actually,”
just as much as I do. He used it twice in the same
sentence. And I have the habit of using this word,
“actually,” a lot too. If you are a frequent
Culips listener, you will know. OK, so anyways,
interesting, right? "If we can actually use
the AirPods for live translations," I think
this is the big question mark here, is if the
technology works well enough, if it's seamless,
it's real time, then we're likely to use it. And
I think it could be really cool. But if it doesn't
work so well, then obviously people are not going
to use it, right? So, this analyst agrees. If we
could actually use the live translation feature
with the AirPods, then people would actually
upgrade to buy them. “Translation is emerging as a
key battleground in the technology industry as AI
gets good enough to translate languages as quickly
as people speak. But Apple is not alone.” So,
there are other competitors in this space. Here,
we heard this expression, “a battleground.” A
key battleground. And as you could imagine,
a battleground is an area or a sector where
companies compete very strongly against each
other. And just from reading the headline to
this article, we know that Meta, Google, and Apple
are all competing, and other companies as well,
as we'll read about in the next section. OK, so
I'm going to read through the next section of this
article. And guys, there are three sections here.
So, we're a third of the way done the article.
Maybe I'll try to speed up a little bit. And yeah,
let's look at the next section now. So, it says,
"A crowded market." "In the past year, Google
and Meta have also released hardware products
featuring real-time translation capabilities.
Google’s Pixel 10 phone has a capability that
can translate what a speaker is saying to
the listener’s language during phone calls.
That feature, called Voice Translate is designed
to also preserve the speaker’s voice inflections.
Voice Translate will start showing up on people’s
phones through a software update on Monday.” OK,
interesting. So, “voice inflections” are like the
way that we change our voice. We can put the tone
or the pitch up or down to convey emotion and
feeling. This is what we call “inflection.” OK,
so if you have a Google Pixel phone, then you're
going to have this new feature available very
soon. Continuing on in the article. “In Google’s
live demo in August, Voice Translate was able to
translate a sentence from entertainer Jimmy
Fallon into Spanish, and it actually sounded
like the comedian. Apple’s feature does
not try to imitate the user’s voice.” So,
I think you're just going to hear like a regular
Siri-style generic computer voice with Apple's
feature. But with Google, they're actually trying
to copy your voice and make the translated output
sound like your real voice, which is interesting.
A little bit scary. Interesting. Meanwhile, what's
happening over at Meta? Well: “Meanwhile, Meta
in May announced that its Ray-Ban Meta glasses
would be able to translate what a person is saying
in another language using the device’s speakers,
and the other party in the conversations would be
able to see translated responses transcribed on
the user’s phone.” OK, so these glasses, have you
seen these glasses that Meta makes? They're like
sunglasses. They look like a pair of Ray-Bans,
but they have all these AI features and cameras
involved. And so, if you were to wear these
glasses then, you could translate what a person is
saying using the speakers in the device. I guess
the speaker is probably located quite close to
your ear. And then the other party would be able
to see on their phone what the translation is. So,
you'll get the audio, and they'll just get the
text on their phone. It continues saying: "Meta
will hold its own product keynote on Wednesday,
where the company is expected to announce the
next generation of its smart glasses, which will
feature a small display in one of the lenses. It’s
unclear if Meta will announce more translation
features.” OK, so we'll have to wait for Meta's
keynote to find out more details about that. And
guys, “a keynote,” if you don't know what this is,
it is an important business presentation where
new products are announced. And I think especially
with tech companies, right? We have like an Apple
keynote, a Meta keynote, a Google keynote. That's
where they announce all of their new products and
services that will be launching. And they usually
do them once or twice a year. OK, continuing with
the article. Two more paragraphs here. I'll read
through them. “And OpenAI in June showcased an
intelligent voice assistant mode for ChatGPT
that has fluid translation built in as one of many
features. ChatGPT is integrated with Apple’s Siri,
but not in voice mode. OpenAI is planning to
release new hardware products with Apple’s
former design guru Jony Ive in the coming years.
The rise of live translation could also reshape
entire industries. Translators and interpreters
are the No. 1 type of job threatened by AI,
and 98% of translators’ work activities overlap
with what AI can do, a Microsoft Research study
published in August found.” OK, so lots to unpack
here. So ChatGPT also is a player in this game.
It's not just Google and Meta and Apple. Also,
ChatGPT and OpenAI are involved. And so, they have
these new voice talk features, voice assistant
features, where translation is involved. And yeah,
interestingly enough, they're planning to release
a new hardware product with Jony Ive. Jony Ive
is one of the famous Apple designers, maybe one
of the most famous tech product designers ever.
I think he was involved in all of Apple's
successful products from the iPhone to the
MacBook to the AirPods and many more as well.
So OpenAI has snatched or hired Jony Ive,
and he'll be designing a hardware device to work
with ChatGPT, which will be very interesting to
see what that's all about when that is announced.
OK, and then the final paragraph there talked
about how translators, “translators” are people
who convert the written language of one language
into the written language of another. And then
“interpreters.” And interpreters are people who
convert spoken language. So, they essentially
are the same job, but one deals with text,
and one deals with spoken languages.
According to a Microsoft research study,
they are very much endangered by the rise of AI.
It's a threatened job. Hmm. OK, so let's read
the final section of this article here. And this
section is called "Purpose-built translators." And
it's a few paragraphs long, so let me read it to
you. It says: "In the past several years, a number
of purpose-built translation gadgets have entered
the market, taking advantage of global high-speed
cellular service and improving online translation
services to produce puck-like devices or
headphones with translation built-in for a couple
hundred dollars." So, “a purpose-built device.”
Something that is purpose-built, it means that
it was built with just one core function in mind.
It's designed specifically for one particular
job or use. Purpose-built. So, there are some
companies who are making devices that are only
for this live translation. Of course, Apple, Meta,
OpenAI, Google, they're saying, "OK, you can do
this as one feature with our devices that can do
many different things." But then a purpose-built
device is like, "No, this is one device only for
this translation feature." And so, yeah, these
devices, really, it's interesting. They're made
possible because of global high-speed cellular
service. If we didn't have these high-speed ways
to access the internet, we probably couldn't
have these devices. So, it's very dependent on
that high-speed data transfer. And also improving
online translation services. So other companies
like maybe Google Translate who have been
operating in this space for many, many years.
So, some companies are making “puck-like devices,”
which is like probably a little circle that
looks like a hockey puck. Or headphones with the
translation built right into the headphones. OK,
so let's go to the next paragraph. It's a quote,
it says: ‘“What I love about what Apple is doing
is it really just illuminates the fact that how
pressing of an issue this is,’ said Joe Miller,
U.S. general manager of Japan-based Pocketalk,
which makes a $249 translation device that goes
between two people conversing in different
languages and translates their conversation
in audio and text.” “Given that Apple shipped
about 18 million sets of wireless headphones in
the first quarter alone, according to Canalys,
the company’s entry into the market will expose
a wider subset of customers to improvements
translation tech has made in recent years.” OK,
so yeah, more and more customers of Apple will be
able to try out this technology according to this,
I guess, analyst company called Canalys. OK,
let's continue. Not super important in that part.
“Despite Apple’s entry into the market, makers of
purpose-built devices say their focus on accuracy
and knowledge of linguistics will provide better
translations than what’s available for free with
a new phone.” OK, so yeah, I guess there's a lot
of competition, right? This is a battleground. You
have these big tech players and then you have
these smaller companies making purpose-built
devices like Pocket Talk, that Japanese company.
And then we're gonna hear about another company
here now called Vasco Electronics from Poland. And
they're saying that, Hey, we're specializing in
this. We are like a translation company. We're
experts. We're using linguistic knowledge and
accuracy. And we know about the languages. We're
not just using AI. We have experts involved. So
that's their fighting point, I guess. That's like
the weapon they're bringing to the battleground,
right? To try and win the customer's confidence
and ultimately the customer's support. So,
let's read the next paragraph here. It's a
quote from the Vasco Electronics company.
It says: “‘We actually hired linguists,’ said
Aleksander Alski, head of U.S. and Canada for
Poland-based Vasco Electronics, which released
translation headphones called E1 in January,
and is planning a forthcoming model that can
imitate the user’s voice, like Google’s feature.
‘We combined the AI with with human input, and
thanks to that, we were able to secure much higher
accuracy throughout all the languages we offer.’”
That’s a quote from Aleksander Alski. Continuing:
“There’s also home-field advantage. Vasco
Electronics’ largest market is Europe,
and Apple’s Live Translation isn’t available for
EU users, Apple said on its website.” OK, very
interesting. Here's a good expression to know,
guys. I recommend adding it to your vocabulary,
“Home-field advantage.” This is actually a
metaphor that comes from sports. So, I think
of baseball because baseball is played on like a
baseball field, but it could be a soccer field or
track and field, any kind of sporting event. You
know, if you are playing in your home stadium,
then you have a big advantage. You have your fans
there cheering for you. Maybe you could sleep the
night before the game in your own bed and you have
like a comfortable, just short trip to the field,
and you can play rested. Whereas the other
team, the opposing team, they are traveling
to your field. So maybe they had to sleep in a
hotel. They had to travel a long way to get to
your field. Their fans aren't there. So instead
of having fans in the stands cheering for them,
maybe they're actively booing them. And so, it's
a big disadvantage, right? So, when we say, “home
field advantage,” we mean having an advantage
because you know your local area better and
you have the support of your home base. So yeah,
interestingly enough, for all of the Europeans
out there, you guys aren't going to have this
live translation feature in Europe, which isn't
it kind of weird? All of those languages were
European languages, English, Spanish, Portuguese,
German, and French, but it's not going to work in
Europe. So, I guess this could be good in Canada
for like Quebec and English-speaking Canada and
maybe in South America and Central America for,
for yeah, Spanish and Portuguese. But if
you can't use it between English and German,
then where are you going to go? For Germans
visiting America, English speaking countries,
maybe. But it seems like, yeah, it's not going
to be so great if you can't use this in Europe.
I think this is because of privacy concerns. So
maybe Apple is going to work to try and figure out
an agreement with the EU. But for now, this seems
like a pretty big miss, like a swing and a miss,
if you can't use this live translation feature
in the EU. Anyways, we're almost at the end of
the article. So, let's read to the end. I'm
going to read all the way to the end. Here we
go. “Some of the products being introduced by tech
companies are less than universal, and are limited
to a small number of languages for now. Apple’s
feature is only available in five languages,
versus Pocketalk’s 95.” “Pocketalk’s Miller
believes that the potential of the technology
goes far beyond a tourist ordering a glass of
wine in France. He says that it’s most powerful
when its used in workplaces like schools and
hospitals, which require privacy and security
features that reduce friction.” And here in
this context, “friction” just means problems or
difficulties that make something harder to do.
Miller also went on to say: “This isn’t about
luxury tourism and travel,” Miller said. “This is
about the intersection of language and friction,
when a discussion needs to be had.” And finally,
the article ends with saying that: “Apple didn’t
respond to a request for comment.” So, the writer
of the article wanted to talk with Apple and get
their side of the story, what they had to say,
and they didn't message back or respond. So,
there's no comment from Apple. OK, so
yeah, it seems like pretty soon here,
guys, we're going to be having a lot of options
for live translation in earphones or headphones
or other kind of devices. And I'm really curious
about what you think about this. Will this change
the way that you study English? If suddenly you
could just use your Apple AirPod and communicate
in your native language and have it translated
into English, would this be something that you
would be interested in using? I’m trying to think,
it's an interesting question. I think for travel,
it's probably really good for those kinds of
situations where maybe you don't have time to
invest in learning the local language. It could be
pretty good, but I don't know. I'd have to try it
out and see how good the technology is. I'm going
to say that I'm skeptical for now. I'm skeptical,
but open-minded, and I would have to try it
just to see how well it works. But we'll see,
time will tell. Guys, I prepared some discussion
questions here for us. And what I would like to
do with these discussion questions, obviously we
can't have a face-to-face discussion and go back
and forth in real time, unfortunately. However,
we can communicate, not in real time. And you can
do that with your comments. So, you could leave
your comments on our YouTube page, Instagram page,
or Discord community. I really highly recommend
our Discord community. It's probably where most
of our listeners are the most active, but also
on YouTube is a great place as well. And so,
let's go through these questions together. There
are three of them. I'll share my thoughts briefly,
and then I'm excited to hear your thoughts as
well. So, question number one is: Would you use
live translation earbuds when traveling? Why or
why not? OK. Well, like I said, just a second ago,
I think I would try them out. I have to see how
well they work. If they are truly seamless and
it's not awkward, then I think, yeah, why not?
Why not use them? Especially if you're going to a
country where you just don't have time to invest
in learning the local language. I think it's a
little bit weird that you have to wear the AirPod
in your ears, because to me, if I see somebody
wearing AirPods, that's like a signal to not talk
to them. Like they're listening to music, or a
podcast and they don't want to be disturbed, but
then we're using them as translation devices. So,
I don't know. I think maybe we'll need to adjust
our mindset to seeing somebody wear the AirPod and
thinking, "Oh, they actually want to talk with
me." I could also see it being quite awkward
if it's not exactly seamless and exactly fast and
very fluent translation. And I could see me using
it for, you know, going to a cafe or a restaurant
and ordering food or something to drink. But for
a deeper, longer conversation, I don't know if
it would be great. I mean, I don't think I would
stop and give up learning and studying Korean if
suddenly I had a perfect translator in my ears
with these AirPods. No, I just couldn't see it
being good enough yet. Maybe I'm biased because
I love language learning and I'd probably
keep going, even if it worked perfectly,
because it's just so interesting and fascinating
to me to study another language and the benefits
we get cognitively. And just the insights into the
culture and the way different people from around
the world think. You know, we can learn about this
through language. So, I wouldn't stop, but I don't
know how much I would use it. I'd have to try.
Very vague answer. I will say that the last time
I was in Japan, I saw, I was waiting in line at a
restaurant and the people in front of me in line,
they were from China and they were trying to
communicate with the restaurant staff. And the
restaurant staff were using a kind of like,
I guess it was a purpose-built translator,
some kind of device, maybe made by a Japanese
company. And then the Chinese customers,
the tourists, they were using their smartphones
and they had a Chinese app and they were trying
to go back and forth communicating and they were
throwing in a little English as well and it was
just a mess. I witnessed it firsthand, trying
to translate between Japanese and Chinese using
two different devices. And it was slow, it was
awkward, and I don't think anybody was satisfied
in the end. I have no idea what they were talking
about, but I imagine it's not something super
complicated. It's probably a question about the
menu or, you know, how long it will take to get
a table. And it was just really awkward and
didn't work very well at all. So, I am very
skeptical about how well these devices could work,
especially in between languages that are very,
very different and more complicated than say
French and English. OK, next discussion question.
Number two: How might real-time translation change
jobs and communication? Well, in a big way, right?
We read about in the article how translators and
interpreters, their line of work is in danger.
Maybe English teachers and language teachers,
maybe our line of work is in danger as well. It's
something that I haven't ignored. I am concerned
about, to be honest with you. We'll have to see,
and I could think of many other jobs, any kind of
international business, right? If you only need
to use English for communicating with one client
or for making a quick presentation or something,
maybe this would be good enough for just like
checking the box and making sure that you can
finish a short presentation with a client
or a short business meeting. If you don't
really have to go into a deep philosophical
conversation that goes for a long, long time,
it's just like a standard, simple, straightforward
business meeting to close a deal. Hey, maybe it
could work. I don't know. So, I think definitely
it could be a disruptor, meaning that it could
change a lot of things. OK, and question three: Do
you think technology can ever translate perfectly?
What might it miss? Who's to say what the future
will hold? You never know what will happen in
the future, but I don't think it could do it
perfectly. I think language is always changing,
always updating. There are always new things to
talk about, new developments, new pop culture
references, new celebrities, new songs, new things
that people chat about. And unless the technology
is really updated daily, then it's probably going
to miss some things. But I think we can get enough
coverage, probably like 95% coverage where it
could make sense. And yeah, there's always going
to be something lost in translation, right?
I don't think that's going to go away anytime
soon. I think we'll always have something that's
lost in translation a little bit, but that's what
makes life and languages interesting. So, I
think I'm OK with that. All right, guys. So
those are my quick and dirty answers here to these
questions. And wow, I've gone on for a long time.
This could be a brand-new world record for the
longest bonus episode ever. But like I said,
I wanted to jump into this article, get into the
nitty gritty with you. I really like this kind of
deep study, and I hope you enjoyed it as well. If
you needed to spend a little bit of time and go
through it part by part by part, that is OK. And
if you need to go back and listen to it again,
hey, that is OK too. We can't always one-and-done
it, right? Just listen once and then perfectly
understand everything. So, if you want to
go back and study with this episode again,
feel free to do that. But for now, I'm going to
take off. So, thank you so much for studying with
me today. Please take care, and I'll catch you
in the next Culips episode. Until then, bye-bye.