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In Israel, memorial events have been 00:00
taking place to mark 2 years since Hamas 00:01
launched its attacks on the 7th of 00:04
October. Around 1,200 people were killed 00:06
by Hamas that day, and 251 others were 00:09
taken hostage. 48 of those are still in 00:13
Gaza, though more than half of them are 00:16
feared dead. In response, Israel's 00:18
military launched a campaign in Gaza. 00:20
More than 67,000 00:23
people have been killed there, according 00:25
to the Hamasrun Health Ministry. But 00:26
could we be on the brink of an end to 00:30
the conflict? Today in Egypt, indirect 00:32
talks between Israel and the 00:34
Palestinians have been taking place to 00:35
try to agree President Trump's plan to 00:37
end the war. We'll have more from Jeremy 00:40
Burn on the plan and the situation in 00:42
Gaza in a moment. But first, our Middle 00:44
East correspondent Lucy Williamson 00:46
reports from Jerusalem. 00:48
At the Nova Festival site today, they 00:51
tried to ignore the sounds of war across 00:54
the border. Tens of thousands of guards 00:56
and dead haven't repaired the wounds of 00:59
survivors here. 01:01
Ramy came here on the 7th of October to 01:05
rescue people. Posing as an attacker, he 01:07
saved one young woman from her Hamas 01:10
captives. But there are ghosts here of 01:12
those he couldn't save. 01:15
I feel a lot of pain because I saw what 01:18
happened here. The ground we are 01:20
standing on held bodies and bodies 01:22
parts. For me, every tree has a meaning. 01:25
I know what happened to these trees. 01:29
I know who was tied to these trees. 01:32
Hundreds of festival goers were hunted 01:39
down by Hamas gunman as the sun rose 01:41
that day. Dozens more were taken 01:44
hostage. 01:46
22-year-old Libby rang her mother to say 01:48
she'd been shot in the stomach and that 01:51
her friend and everyone around her was 01:53
dead. 01:55
And then she said, "Mommy, they're 01:56
coming to shoot me again." 01:58
The terrorists, they they saw that she's 02:01
alive. They saw that she's speaking on 02:04
the phone and they come for less than 02:06
one meter and we heard the shots that 02:09
killed her again. 02:14
Two years on, she says she doesn't feel 02:15
safer here. I asked her what would help. 02:18
I think that all the leaders should go. 02:20
It's like in the computer that you're 02:23
doing a control delete and you're doing 02:24
a end task. We should end the this task 02:27
should be ended. 02:31
It's been 2 years since Benjamin 02:32
Netanyahu vowed to restore Israel's 02:34
security, but the sounds of the war in 02:37
Gaza are still echoing around this site. 02:39
And Benjamin Netanyahu, once known as 02:42
Mr. Security, is facing the question of 02:44
whether that war can ever repair the 02:48
mistakes that led to this. 02:50
[Music] 02:53
Mr. Netanyahu has faced growing pressure 02:55
to end the war and bring the hostages 02:57
home. But with elections due next year, 02:59
he knows that few at these protests 03:02
would ever vote for him. 03:05
His own voters views on the war are 03:08
mixed. In this Netanyahu stronghold in 03:10
Jerusalem, people were preparing for the 03:12
Jewish holiday of Sukkot. 03:15
If Benjamin Netanyahu goes along with 03:16
Trump's plan, what would you say to him? 03:18
That is crazy. It's crazy. 03:21
He'd lose your support. 03:24
You lose everything. 03:26
But I don't think it's that it's what 03:29
he's going to do. Maybe it's what he 03:31
tell, but it's not what he's going to 03:33
do. Tonight in Tel Aviv, a minute's 03:35
silence for the victims of the attacks. 03:38
But this is a divided country led by a 03:43
man who promised security. How much war 03:46
will it take to persuade Israelis he 03:49
didn't fail them back then. Lucy 03:52
Williamson, BBC News, Jerusalem. 03:55
As talks to end the war continue in 03:59
Egypt, a US team is on its way to the 04:01
negotiations. Today, President Trump 04:03
says there is a really good chance a 04:05
deal can be agreed. His peace plan 04:08
presented together with Israel's Prime 04:10
Minister Netanyahu and agreed in part by 04:11
Hamas these major sticking points for 04:14
both sides to resolve. But it does 04:16
specify that if a ceasefire is agreed, 04:18
Israel will stop all military 04:21
operations. Hamas will release all 04:23
living and dead hostages within 72 hours 04:25
of the ceasefire. Then aid would be able 04:28
to move freely into Gaza and eventually 04:31
redevelopment would begin. After two 04:33
years of war in Gaza, the UN estimates 04:36
more than 90% of homes are thought to 04:38
have been damaged or destroyed with 04:40
hundreds of thousands of people 04:43
displaced. Hamas have been significantly 04:44
reduced as a fighting force, but not 04:46
eliminated. Israel doesn't allow 04:49
international journalists, including the 04:51
BBC, into Gaza. Our international 04:53
editor, Jeremy Bones, sent this report 04:55
from Jerusalem. 04:56
To mark the anniversary, Hamas released 05:00
an AI animation celebrating the attacks 05:02
on Israel two years ago. The commentary 05:04
calls on God to humiliate Israel. It 05:07
claims Hamas shattered the myth of 05:10
Israeli invincibility. The video 05:12
reincarnates leaders Israel has killed. 05:15
This is Yahi Sinoir, chief architect of 05:18
the 7th of October, who tried to down an 05:20
Israeli drone with a stick in his last 05:23
moments. The video says Palestinians 05:25
cannot surrender. 05:28
In Gaza, which Israel does not let us 05:30
enter to report freely, reality is a 05:32
long way from AI. 2 years of war and 05:35
more than 67,000, mostly civilians 05:38
killed by Israel, according to the 05:41
Hamasrun Health Ministry means 2 million 05:43
Gardens are following the talks in 05:46
Egypt, hoping desperately for a 05:48
ceasefire. This is suede filmed by a 05:50
freelance team working for the BBC 05:53
displaced from his home like most 05:56
gardens. 05:58
He says, "We've been under this brutal 06:00
occupation for nearly two years. We're 06:02
praying for a ceasefire and for success 06:04
in the negotiations. People are fed up 06:06
with this. They are tired of war." 06:09
This is Naz also displaced. 06:12
She says, "I follow the news closely. I 06:17
tell myself there's progress. Be 06:20
optimistic. Then when night comes, we 06:21
have nothing more than increased 06:24
shelling on the tents of displaced 06:25
people in the areas they claim are safe. 06:27
On the streets, is trying to show it's 06:32
still in charge. A fortnight ago, it 06:35
carried out a public execution of men it 06:36
said had collaborated with Israel. 06:39
They were kicked over and moments later 06:43
shot dead. Hamas wants to keep some 06:45
weapons, fearing revenge attacks. A few 06:48
days ago, this Hamas squad was in a gun 06:51
battle with a clan it saw as a threat. 06:54
Israel intervened, killing the Hamas men 06:56
with a drone. 07:00
From Jerusalem, I reached a human rights 07:01
activist in Gaza, Halil Abu Shamala. He 07:03
accepts Hamas still has a significant 07:07
following, but he's had enough. 07:09
So tell me, do you think Hamas is 07:12
finished? I think that it is too late. 07:14
This is my point of view. It is too late 07:17
for Hamas to uh to renew or to call 07:19
people or to ask people to accept them 07:25
again. 07:30
But what about the West Bank where 07:31
Jewish settlers attack Palestinians 07:33
almost every day? This was near Napas. 07:35
The West Bank, the biggest part of the 07:38
land the UK and others recognize as 07:40
Palestine, is not mentioned in the Trump 07:43
peace plan, raising Palestinian 07:45
suspicions. 07:48
So, the first risk is uh the possibility 07:49
that Netanyahu could undermine the talks 07:52
again. 07:54
Uh the second thing that worries all of 07:56
us and all Palestinians as a matter of 07:58
fact is that everybody is worried that 08:00
if Netanyahu or once Netanyahu gets his 08:04
captives, he will reactivate the war. 08:07
The third big problem is the issue of 08:10
withdrawal from Gaza. It's not clear if 08:13
he's if they're really planning to 08:16
withdraw and from where are they going 08:18
to withdraw. 08:20
Just outside Jerusalem, Israel has 08:22
authorized a major expansion of Jewish 08:24
settlements illegal under international 08:27
law. Its prime minister says this land 08:29
is ours. The Israeli government is very 08:32
open about why it wants to build on 08:34
these hills to stop the creation of a 08:37
viable and independent Palestine. 08:41
Donald Trump says that he can bring 08:45
peace to the entire Middle East. 08:49
The talks in Egypt are not going to do 08:52
that. They can potentially, if they 08:53
overcome a lot of obstacles, 08:57
be an endgame for the war in Gaza. But 08:59
the overall conflict will continue. 09:03
With Gaza in ruins, Israel wants to 09:07
declare victory after the talks in 09:09
Egypt. Hamas wants to survive somehow 09:10
and rebuild itself. 09:14
That sounds like an impossible circle to 09:16
square. Jeremy Bowen, BBC News, 09:19
Jerusalem. 09:22
So Jeremy, we can talk to to Jeremy in 09:24
Jerusalem now. So talks are taking place 09:27
in Egypt now. What chance is this time 09:29
of getting a peace deal? 09:33
Well, the uh the general opinion is that 09:37
this is actually a good chance. And what 09:40
makes it different is that President 09:42
Donald Trump is putting pressure not 09:46
just on Hamas and there is no political 09:48
penalty for American presidents to put 09:52
pressure on Hamas or the Palestinians, 09:54
but he's also putting pressure on 09:57
Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel's prime 09:59
minister, and that is a new thing. It's 10:01
not something that Joe Biden would have 10:02
done. And that's probably got them now 10:04
to the negotiating table. But they're 10:06
talking about Trump's 20point plan. Now, 10:09
to be honest, it's pretty vague in a lot 10:13
of places there. There's precious little 10:15
detail. It's more like a framework. So 10:18
what they're trying to do is fill in the 10:20
gaps with precision, with language, with 10:22
maps, with timetables, things like that 10:26
exchange of hostages for Palestinian 10:30
prisoners, things like whether or not 10:32
Hamas will be allowed to keep any kinds 10:35
of weapons. A really difficult agenda 10:37
and trying to get into the detail means 10:41
that's when the obstacles will emerge. 10:44
And how do they get over that? The 10:47
crucial thing, I think, is continued 10:49
American pressure on both sides because 10:52
between the Israelis and Hamas, there 10:55
is, as you'd expect, zero trust or 11:00
goodwill. 11:03

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[English]
In Israel, memorial events have been
taking place to mark 2 years since Hamas
launched its attacks on the 7th of
October. Around 1,200 people were killed
by Hamas that day, and 251 others were
taken hostage. 48 of those are still in
Gaza, though more than half of them are
feared dead. In response, Israel's
military launched a campaign in Gaza.
More than 67,000
people have been killed there, according
to the Hamasrun Health Ministry. But
could we be on the brink of an end to
the conflict? Today in Egypt, indirect
talks between Israel and the
Palestinians have been taking place to
try to agree President Trump's plan to
end the war. We'll have more from Jeremy
Burn on the plan and the situation in
Gaza in a moment. But first, our Middle
East correspondent Lucy Williamson
reports from Jerusalem.
At the Nova Festival site today, they
tried to ignore the sounds of war across
the border. Tens of thousands of guards
and dead haven't repaired the wounds of
survivors here.
Ramy came here on the 7th of October to
rescue people. Posing as an attacker, he
saved one young woman from her Hamas
captives. But there are ghosts here of
those he couldn't save.
I feel a lot of pain because I saw what
happened here. The ground we are
standing on held bodies and bodies
parts. For me, every tree has a meaning.
I know what happened to these trees.
I know who was tied to these trees.
Hundreds of festival goers were hunted
down by Hamas gunman as the sun rose
that day. Dozens more were taken
hostage.
22-year-old Libby rang her mother to say
she'd been shot in the stomach and that
her friend and everyone around her was
dead.
And then she said, "Mommy, they're
coming to shoot me again."
The terrorists, they they saw that she's
alive. They saw that she's speaking on
the phone and they come for less than
one meter and we heard the shots that
killed her again.
Two years on, she says she doesn't feel
safer here. I asked her what would help.
I think that all the leaders should go.
It's like in the computer that you're
doing a control delete and you're doing
a end task. We should end the this task
should be ended.
It's been 2 years since Benjamin
Netanyahu vowed to restore Israel's
security, but the sounds of the war in
Gaza are still echoing around this site.
And Benjamin Netanyahu, once known as
Mr. Security, is facing the question of
whether that war can ever repair the
mistakes that led to this.
[Music]
Mr. Netanyahu has faced growing pressure
to end the war and bring the hostages
home. But with elections due next year,
he knows that few at these protests
would ever vote for him.
His own voters views on the war are
mixed. In this Netanyahu stronghold in
Jerusalem, people were preparing for the
Jewish holiday of Sukkot.
If Benjamin Netanyahu goes along with
Trump's plan, what would you say to him?
That is crazy. It's crazy.
He'd lose your support.
You lose everything.
But I don't think it's that it's what
he's going to do. Maybe it's what he
tell, but it's not what he's going to
do. Tonight in Tel Aviv, a minute's
silence for the victims of the attacks.
But this is a divided country led by a
man who promised security. How much war
will it take to persuade Israelis he
didn't fail them back then. Lucy
Williamson, BBC News, Jerusalem.
As talks to end the war continue in
Egypt, a US team is on its way to the
negotiations. Today, President Trump
says there is a really good chance a
deal can be agreed. His peace plan
presented together with Israel's Prime
Minister Netanyahu and agreed in part by
Hamas these major sticking points for
both sides to resolve. But it does
specify that if a ceasefire is agreed,
Israel will stop all military
operations. Hamas will release all
living and dead hostages within 72 hours
of the ceasefire. Then aid would be able
to move freely into Gaza and eventually
redevelopment would begin. After two
years of war in Gaza, the UN estimates
more than 90% of homes are thought to
have been damaged or destroyed with
hundreds of thousands of people
displaced. Hamas have been significantly
reduced as a fighting force, but not
eliminated. Israel doesn't allow
international journalists, including the
BBC, into Gaza. Our international
editor, Jeremy Bones, sent this report
from Jerusalem.
To mark the anniversary, Hamas released
an AI animation celebrating the attacks
on Israel two years ago. The commentary
calls on God to humiliate Israel. It
claims Hamas shattered the myth of
Israeli invincibility. The video
reincarnates leaders Israel has killed.
This is Yahi Sinoir, chief architect of
the 7th of October, who tried to down an
Israeli drone with a stick in his last
moments. The video says Palestinians
cannot surrender.
In Gaza, which Israel does not let us
enter to report freely, reality is a
long way from AI. 2 years of war and
more than 67,000, mostly civilians
killed by Israel, according to the
Hamasrun Health Ministry means 2 million
Gardens are following the talks in
Egypt, hoping desperately for a
ceasefire. This is suede filmed by a
freelance team working for the BBC
displaced from his home like most
gardens.
He says, "We've been under this brutal
occupation for nearly two years. We're
praying for a ceasefire and for success
in the negotiations. People are fed up
with this. They are tired of war."
This is Naz also displaced.
She says, "I follow the news closely. I
tell myself there's progress. Be
optimistic. Then when night comes, we
have nothing more than increased
shelling on the tents of displaced
people in the areas they claim are safe.
On the streets, is trying to show it's
still in charge. A fortnight ago, it
carried out a public execution of men it
said had collaborated with Israel.
They were kicked over and moments later
shot dead. Hamas wants to keep some
weapons, fearing revenge attacks. A few
days ago, this Hamas squad was in a gun
battle with a clan it saw as a threat.
Israel intervened, killing the Hamas men
with a drone.
From Jerusalem, I reached a human rights
activist in Gaza, Halil Abu Shamala. He
accepts Hamas still has a significant
following, but he's had enough.
So tell me, do you think Hamas is
finished? I think that it is too late.
This is my point of view. It is too late
for Hamas to uh to renew or to call
people or to ask people to accept them
again.
But what about the West Bank where
Jewish settlers attack Palestinians
almost every day? This was near Napas.
The West Bank, the biggest part of the
land the UK and others recognize as
Palestine, is not mentioned in the Trump
peace plan, raising Palestinian
suspicions.
So, the first risk is uh the possibility
that Netanyahu could undermine the talks
again.
Uh the second thing that worries all of
us and all Palestinians as a matter of
fact is that everybody is worried that
if Netanyahu or once Netanyahu gets his
captives, he will reactivate the war.
The third big problem is the issue of
withdrawal from Gaza. It's not clear if
he's if they're really planning to
withdraw and from where are they going
to withdraw.
Just outside Jerusalem, Israel has
authorized a major expansion of Jewish
settlements illegal under international
law. Its prime minister says this land
is ours. The Israeli government is very
open about why it wants to build on
these hills to stop the creation of a
viable and independent Palestine.
Donald Trump says that he can bring
peace to the entire Middle East.
The talks in Egypt are not going to do
that. They can potentially, if they
overcome a lot of obstacles,
be an endgame for the war in Gaza. But
the overall conflict will continue.
With Gaza in ruins, Israel wants to
declare victory after the talks in
Egypt. Hamas wants to survive somehow
and rebuild itself.
That sounds like an impossible circle to
square. Jeremy Bowen, BBC News,
Jerusalem.
So Jeremy, we can talk to to Jeremy in
Jerusalem now. So talks are taking place
in Egypt now. What chance is this time
of getting a peace deal?
Well, the uh the general opinion is that
this is actually a good chance. And what
makes it different is that President
Donald Trump is putting pressure not
just on Hamas and there is no political
penalty for American presidents to put
pressure on Hamas or the Palestinians,
but he's also putting pressure on
Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel's prime
minister, and that is a new thing. It's
not something that Joe Biden would have
done. And that's probably got them now
to the negotiating table. But they're
talking about Trump's 20point plan. Now,
to be honest, it's pretty vague in a lot
of places there. There's precious little
detail. It's more like a framework. So
what they're trying to do is fill in the
gaps with precision, with language, with
maps, with timetables, things like that
exchange of hostages for Palestinian
prisoners, things like whether or not
Hamas will be allowed to keep any kinds
of weapons. A really difficult agenda
and trying to get into the detail means
that's when the obstacles will emerge.
And how do they get over that? The
crucial thing, I think, is continued
American pressure on both sides because
between the Israelis and Hamas, there
is, as you'd expect, zero trust or
goodwill.

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Vocabulary Meanings

Israel

/ˈɪzreɪəl/

B1
  • noun
  • - A country in the Middle East.

Hamas

/ˈhɑːməs/

B1
  • noun
  • - A Palestinian Sunni-Islamist fundamentalist organization

attack

/əˈtæk/

A2
  • noun
  • - a violent physical or verbal assault
  • verb
  • - to take aggressive action against (a place or person), especially with weapons or physical force.

killed

/kɪld/

A2
  • verb
  • - to cause the death of a person or animal

people

/ˈpiːpl/

A1
  • noun
  • - human beings in general or considered collectively

Gaza

/ˈɡɑːzə/

B1
  • noun
  • - A Palestinian territory on the eastern coast of the Mediterranean Sea

military

/ˈmɪlətri/

B1
  • adjective
  • - relating to the armed forces or the defense of a country
  • noun
  • - the armed forces of a country

war

/wɔːr/

A2
  • noun
  • - a state of armed conflict between countries or groups within a country.

President

/ˈprezɪdənt/

B1
  • noun
  • - the elected head of a republic.

Trump

/trʌmp/

B1
  • noun
  • - Former US President

Jerusalem

/dʒəˈruːsələm/

B1
  • noun
  • - A city in the Middle East, claimed as a capital by both Israel and Palestine

site

/saɪt/

B1
  • noun
  • - a place where something is located or where something happened.

woman

/ˈwʊmən/

A1
  • noun
  • - an adult human female

shot

/ʃɒt/

B1
  • verb
  • - past tense of shoot: fire a bullet or other projectile from a gun.
  • noun
  • - the act of firing a gun

mother

/ˈmʌðər/

A1
  • noun
  • - a woman in relation to her child or children.

security

/sɪˈkjʊərəti/

B1
  • noun
  • - the state of being free from danger or threat

hostages

/ˈhɒstɪdʒɪz/

B2
  • noun
  • - a person seized or held as security for the fulfillment of a condition.

country

/ˈkʌntri/

A1
  • noun
  • - a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory.

victims

/ˈvɪktɪmz/

B1
  • noun
  • - a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action.

peace

/piːs/

A2
  • noun
  • - freedom from disturbance; tranquility.

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