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大家好罗叔好 00:12
晃姐好 00:14
我们又回来了 00:14
00:15
我们上次说了 00:16
我想聊一下红二代 00:17
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主要是因为在戛纳干了一仗之后 00:20
那次沦陷之后 00:24
我就发现 00:25
为什么大家对红二代 00:26
有这么矛盾的印象 00:27
老觉得这帮人天生贵胄 00:30
而且霸气凌人这种样的感觉 00:34
其实不然 00:38
00:39
我呢 00:40
不是红二代 00:41
我最多最多充其量算一个粉二代 00:42
真的因为什么呢 00:47
我外公是一个明主人士 00:48
他是个无党派人士 00:50
为什么他是无党派人士呢 00:51
因为他是老派的 00:53
他是清朝时候出道的 00:55
那还是有皇帝的时候呢 00:58
01:00
在有皇帝的时候 01:01
结党营私 01:02
这就是一个坏事 01:04
重罪就所有人都必须是忠于皇帝的 01:06
不能够有党派这么一说 01:10
所以在中国的语言里头 01:13
党这个字 01:15
比如在成语结党营私里头 01:16
嗯他就不是在一个褒义的环境下 01:19
出生这个词的 01:23
所以呢 01:25
我外公就特别的介意加入任何党 01:25
那个时候孙中山让他去加入国民党 01:29
他也不去 01:32
人家老说他是民主党派 01:33
这他是一个无党派人士 01:35
他自己给自己定的原则 01:37
就是说 01:39
我什么党都不加入 01:40
所以呢 01:42
他一直是一个无党派人士 01:42
但他这个无党派人士呢 01:45
当的比较比较圆滑 01:46
哈哈哈 01:48
就是所有的党派的人都是他的朋友 01:49
所有的党派里头也都有他的朋友 01:51
在中华人民共和国建立以后 01:54
他就可以成为政协委员 01:56
成为那个中央文史研究馆 01:59
他就是文史馆的馆长 02:02
02:04
我脑子里头 02:05
我外公的职位就是文史馆的馆长 02:06
其他的对我来讲是没有印象的 02:09
我跟那时候我也太小了 02:12
他好像还是一个政协的 02:14
什么政协常委 02:15
常委是很大的官了是吧 02:18
02:19
你看我们家外公还是非常了不起的 02:20
我这个贼没出息的败家子 02:24
到现在连挣钱的边也没有 02:26
他是 02:29
中华人民共和国全国人大常委会委员 02:29
全国政协常委 02:33
然后您刚才说那是最小的那个 02:35
就是中央文史馆馆长 02:36
对但是你知道 02:38
他在我的印象中 02:39
和在我跟他在一块共处的时候 02:41
他最骄傲的就是他是文史馆 02:44
而且他认为如果没有他的提倡 02:47
这个文史馆不会存在 02:50
他一直就是会跟别人说 02:52
我是文史馆馆长 02:54
然后我问他是爷爷 02:55
你是干什么 02:57
他就说我是文史馆啊 02:57
是研究历史的 02:59
其他的政治上头的抬头 03:01
对他来讲他是不说的 03:03
所以从这一方面来讲呢 03:05
我就说我最多是个粉红 03:07
我妈妈如果说后来嫁给了乔光华 03:09
可能我就 03:13
但并不说明我红 03:14
只说明她更红了一点 03:16
我还是处于那种粉红的状态 03:19
我长大的时候呢 03:23
就没有跟红二代接触 03:24
其实最容易接触红二代的 03:28
是像你长大的过程 03:30
因为你是大院环境 03:32
03:34
大院里头就有好多部队里头红二代啊 03:35
还有我猜哈 03:38
有这种高级军官的孩子 03:40
没有那么大级别 03:42
一般说红二代都是首长级别的孩子 03:44
首长级别 03:47
不是说干革命的二代都叫红二代 03:47
哦好的 03:50
那首长级别是什么级别 03:51
那怎么也得是建国之前 03:53
干革命的那种级别才可以呢 03:56
军职啊从延安过来的 03:59
对哪怕就是你中间啊 04:01
解放战争的时候 04:03
你也得是那种首长级的我 04:04
觉得才能叫红二代 04:07
怎么得是军长 04:08
军团兵团级的 04:10
因为我们就属于军属啊 04:11
哈哈好吧 04:14
我们不叫二代啊 04:16
04:17
红二代在我的脑海里头 04:17
是一帮特别牛的 04:20
真是 04:22
中华人民共和国第一代领导人的孩子 04:22
04:26
他们都会互相认识的 04:27
我跟他们不认识 04:29
第一呢 04:31
我比他们差不多小10岁左右 04:32
我是61年出生的 04:35
他们都是五几年出生的 04:36
甚至更早 04:38
我不是离开了西德金属 04:39
自己办了会公司 04:43
就加入了标准国际吗嗯 04:44
标准国际的董事长就是陈潇鲁啊 04:46
是陈毅的儿子 04:49
90年代末了 04:52
我才接触到所谓的红二代是什么样的 04:54
我怎么去到标国的呢 04:58
我不是跟有色金属的人 05:01
一直在打交道吗 05:03
后来我不做这个西德金属了的时候呢 05:05
他们就说哎 05:09
你自己干嘛呢 05:09
我说做咨询公司 05:10
他做怎么样 05:12
我说就这么着吧 05:12
反正也有点磕 05:13
他说 05:14
你干嘛不跟那个标国他们一块合伙啊 05:14
有色金属的一个人 05:18
我说我不知道那谁啊 05:20
他说啊他们就是小鲁啊 05:22
他们一帮子从小一块玩的 05:23
红二代他们做的一个咨询公司 05:25
我完全出于好奇 05:28
我说好呀 05:31
然后他们就给我介绍了一个 05:32
他们当时也是合伙人之一 05:34
叫何迪何迪的夫人 05:37
和我认识的这个有色金属的人 05:40
是朋友还是他的妹妹 05:43
跟他说反正就一个 05:46
搭了好几层的关系 05:47
他们就问我感不感兴趣 05:49
我说我特别感兴趣 05:51
然后他们就让罗源 05:52
就是罗瑞卿的小儿子来找我 05:54
有点是面试的感觉 05:58
06:00
反正我就跟罗源聊的挺好的 06:00
罗源跟我聊完了 06:03
之后他说 06:04
我觉得你再跟我姐姐聊聊吧 06:05
就是点点 06:07
然后我就跟点点又聊了 06:08
也聊的挺好的 06:10
等于标国两拨人就筛了我了 06:12
觉得OK我就把我原来的业务 06:15
全都叠到标国的那个业务里头去了 06:19
然后我就认识了陈小鲁 06:23
认识了罗点点 06:25
还有罗源 06:27
还有何迪 06:28
我觉得点点和罗源 06:29
还有小鲁是红二代 06:32
何迪他爸爸当时是农业部的部长 06:35
他不是那种老革命的官二代吧 06:40
高干家庭子弟啊 06:45
就算官二代那样的 06:46
他们那个时候在中山公园的小院里头 06:48
有一个办公室 06:50
就一人一个小院里头的一小屋子 06:52
做办公室 06:55
然后也给了我一个办公室啊 06:55
还有一个科林 06:57
好像家里头是外交部的还是哪的 06:58
他也是国外留学回来的 07:01
他们就说那你就入伙吧 07:04
跟我们就一块 07:05
就没有任何的架子 07:06
也没有任何的怎么怎么着 07:09
然后他们都管小鲁叫大哥 07:11
记得我刚到那不久的时候 07:13
第一个任务就是小鲁过生日 07:16
我自己就说 07:19
哎我说我知道 07:20
北京饭店那边有一个做蛋糕的 07:21
特好吃然后小鲁呢 07:24
又好那口 07:25
他喜欢吃冰激凌蛋糕 07:26
我说我知道 07:28
我去弄去 07:28
我去了之后 07:30
他们说这上头要写字吗 07:31
我说写祝大哥生日快乐 07:32
哈哈哈然后那边的人就问我 07:34
你们这是黑手党啊 07:37
还是怎么着 07:38
就特别的觉得这大哥二哥太牛了啊 07:39
作为标国来讲 07:44
就是一个松散到不能再松散的 07:45
这么一个公司 07:48
而且他们所有的人都是低调 07:50
不能再低调 07:53
你知道小鲁到哪去他都是骑自行车 07:54
一来呢他觉 07:58
得这样锻炼身体 07:59
二来呢他觉得他不用车 08:00
他也不要司机 08:03
他也不要这些事情 08:04
找标国的人呢 08:06
都还是海外的一些非常大的人 08:08
来找这种合作 08:12
因为他们觉得你们这关系多 08:13
对吧开玩笑说 08:16
我们是no how加no who 08:17
不仅有技术 08:19
我们还有关系 08:20
很多老外会找我们来 08:22
帮他们解决他们在中国的一些问题 08:24
或者帮他们完成一些项目 08:27
来招我们的人呢 08:30
一般都是挺大头的介绍过来 08:31
所以找过来要要求见小鲁的 08:35
也都是CEO什么之类的 08:38
住的呢都是那种超级牛的地方 08:40
请客吃饭也都是 08:44
有一个长安街上 08:45
有一个什么长安俱乐部吧 08:46
哎对嘿好 08:48
那个就是特牛的一个地方 08:49
是好像那个时候吧 08:51
所有的老外 08:52
都是想把金融的这块牌子拿下来 08:54
所以都是大的金融公司的那些老板 08:57
每次老板出来吃饭 09:01
小鲁英文很好 09:03
但他不爱说 09:05
所以他就提溜着我给他当翻译 09:06
每次我们去的时候吧 09:09
比如说我坐着车 09:11
公司的车 09:13
一奥迪我到那了 09:13
哎人家老板在那门口接的 09:15
你看出来是我 09:18
我说对不起啊小鲁 09:19
咱一会自己来一会 09:20
小鲁来了 09:22
骑个破自行车 09:23
哈哈哈 09:24
就是永久二八的那种自行车啊 09:25
我来了 09:28
他居然有的时候骑自行车 09:29
他打梆腿 09:32
咱们在电影里头看了 09:33
八路军的那种打帮腿 09:34
因为他怕那个裤子脚 09:36
裤脚卷到那个车的链条里头去 09:38
而且他也不讲究 09:41
就就就穿的特随意的那种特旧的衣服 09:42
完了就打着梆腿 09:46
从一个二八车上跳下来 09:47
完了就 09:49
去跟人家CEO吃饭了 09:50
CEO就看着我说 09:52
这你们陈小鲁 09:53
我说对对对 09:54
这陈小鲁 09:55
小鲁是这样的 09:56
就他是一个特别特别实实在在的人 09:57
他也是一个特别特别nice的人 10:01
特别好 10:04
我们公司里头谁吵架呢 10:06
就我和克林 10:08
科林呢是一个技术型的 10:09
我呢老是那种咨询 10:11
就是忽悠型的哈 10:13
所以科林呢就认为我就是一忽悠 10:15
就会忽悠客户 10:18
我就应该去做销售 10:19
去真正干活呢投资啊 10:21
我就别掺和了 10:24
因为我根本不懂 10:25
其实他是对的哈 10:26
我是错的 10:27
但是问题我哪甘心啊 10:28
那时候才30刚出头 10:29
什么叫我就不懂啊 10:31
就做什么事都你懂的 10:32
所以我们俩人就老在股东开会的时候 10:34
就我们俩吵一吵 10:36
所有人的眼睛 10:39
就肯定是朝着陈小鲁看着 10:39
意思就是说你当裁判 10:41
你说怎么着 10:43
你是董事长 10:44
然后我们就知道 10:45
陈小鲁发愁的时候 10:47
有一个习惯动作叫干洗脸 10:48
老一辈人就是拿着那个手 10:51
在那个脸上嗯 10:54
使劲的搓呀 10:55
哎呀 10:56
就搓啊搓着脸 10:57
就不说话 10:58
就在这搓脸 10:59
然后我们就看着发愁 11:00
我们说你看小鹿又该洗脸了 11:01
哈哈哈他就不愿意去说谁对谁错 11:04
然后他就会非常和稀泥的说几句 11:08
那个时候我带过去一个客户 11:11
是一个德国公司 11:13
做活塞的 11:15
就是汽车发动机里头的活塞 11:17
他们在中国做一个合资企业 11:20
需要我们帮他提供商业咨询 11:21
然后提供商业咨询的时候呢 11:23
他们就特别怕 11:25
中国有一个反汇的这么一个条款 11:26
因为那个时候中国外汇缺 11:29
所有的合资企业都有一个反 11:31
汇的要求 11:35
他们就是说如果我们在中国挣的钱 11:37
必须要百分之多少返汇的话 11:40
我们做不到 11:42
因为我们东西全是在中国卖的 11:43
他们就拿这个发愁 11:45
但是呢 11:48
他们又必须要有一部分外汇呢 11:48
去go他们原来的技术啊什么的 11:50
他们正在这发愁 11:53
就问小鲁能不能够 11:54
我们不是商业咨询吗 11:56
然后他们又知道陈小鲁的背景 11:58
又知道小鲁的爸爸是陈毅 12:00
去外滩溜达一圈 12:02
看见陈毅的雕塑在那 12:03
就一定要让我和小鲁做一个电话会议 12:05
问一下小鲁能不能够去上海的外资委 12:10
疏通一下这件事情 12:13
我那个时候在德国 12:15
就给家里头打一电话 12:17
我说小鲁 12:19
你得帮我听听他们问题 12:19
看看你能不能去上海 12:22
小鲁就在那听 12:24
听完了之后 12:26
他说哎红花你这不行啊 12:26
你怎么跑德国去 12:30
回来给我打一电话 12:31
让我去违反中国法律啊 12:32
我说小鲁你这严重了吧 12:34
我说不是啊 12:37
就是这个反外汇的这个事情 12:38
他们做不到啊 12:41
那做不到也不行啊 12:42
我们是做咨询的 12:44
我们是在法律结构之内做事的 12:46
不是在法律结构之外做事的 12:48
你得好好想一想 12:50
我们能改什么 12:51
但是中华人民共和国法律 12:52
我是改不了的 12:54
就把我和老外在那教训了一遍 12:55
我当时我心想 12:57
这个洪二蛋当咨询人员不太靠谱啊 12:59
他好像不想帮我办事 13:02
他只是想教训教训我 13:04
基本上是他把外国人教训了一遍 13:07
外国人说他说什么了 13:11
我只能说啊 13:13
他会去试一试 13:14
但是我们没有把握怎么怎么就 13:15
反正跟人家找各种各样的哈 13:18
在我印象中 13:20
至少我认识的红二代 13:21
他们的立场绝对维护国家利益 13:23
这一点是非常非常强的 13:27
那个时候跟老外在一起 13:30
我挺处跟他们当那个合作伙伴的 13:31
我们吧 13:37
也知道有些事情我们是不能改变的 13:37
有国家利益在那 13:40
但是我们会很软的跟外国人解释 13:42
你知道吗 13:45
但是他们就不会的 13:46
他们就很冲的说 13:48
你这不合理 13:49
你凭什么让我改 13:50
这个小鲁在说我去德国做买卖 13:51
我能要你改德国法律吗 13:54
真的这个太异想天开了 13:55
他就会这样说 13:57
外方如果没有懂中文的人 13:58
在你作为咨询公司还OK 14:00
我至少在翻译里头 14:03
我就可以把它软化了 14:04
如果外方有懂中文的人 14:06
看人就觉得我要这顾问干什么 14:08
是给我上课来的吧 14:10
从我了解来讲 14:12
红儿爱怎么怎么样 14:14
我没看见 14:16
我真的没看见 14:17
只是觉得他们是很有原则的 14:18
这是一个 14:21
第二呢他们是真的不会做买卖 14:22
哈哈你知道 14:25
红二代那帮人都是50年代出生的 14:26
所以他们没有外国教育 14:28
他们不像我似的 14:31
比他们小10岁 14:32
还上了一个外国的学校 14:33
当然我不是学商业的 14:35
比我再小10岁的人或者20岁的人 14:37
那帮人家里头如果有权 14:41
但是在什么商学院毕业的 14:44
那帮人是会赚钱的 14:46
也会玩金融 14:48
那我觉得那些都算是官二代了 14:49
就特别厉害了 14:52
但是红二代里头真的没有厉害的 14:53
因为他们的教育已经决定了 14:56
他们能干什么 14:58
不能干什么 14:59
我妈妈跟张玉凤就挺熟的 15:00
他们有一次一块参加一个什么活动 15:03
碰见李敏了这 15:06
活动完了之后 15:08
李敏就说 15:09
到我们家去吧 15:10
我妈妈回来就感叹说 15:11
哎呀这也是毛主席的女儿 15:13
他们家 15:16
住在一个特别普通的公寓楼里头 15:16
他们在那聊天 15:20
聊了一阵子 15:21
大家就说有点饿了 15:22
然后李敏说那就在我们家吃饭吧 15:24
然后就拿出来一把一把挂面 15:27
真的是煮一煮 15:30
撒点酱油 15:33
这顿饭就过去了 15:34
我真的不觉得在红二代里头 15:36
谁奢侈我也不知道 15:40
至少我没见过 15:42
就是我听我妈妈说的 15:43
还有他们这些第一代 15:45
中国共产党出来的子女 15:48
他们会在一块聚 15:50
但是真的没有那种花天酒地的 15:52
这种我反正没见过 15:56
所以我也不知道 15:58
社会上对这种样的东西哪来的 15:59
只要一说到红二代 16:02
就好像是怎么怎么特权阶层的样子 16:03
抢男霸女的 16:06
对就是 16:07
好像 16:09
对老百姓有多么多大的鄙视链似的 16:09
其实红二代真的是没有鄙视链的 16:12
像小鲁啊 16:16
罗源和点点他们我认识的 16:17
在道德水准上 16:20
我最尊重的人 16:21
也就是这几个人 16:23
没挑的 16:25
点点原来是个医生 16:26
他不当医生了 16:29
从体制内出来了 16:31
就在彪国 16:32
然后他在彪国呢 16:33
一直帮着彪国写点东西 16:34
啊就我们会有咨询的事情 16:37
这就说到我说 16:39
他们没一个会做买卖的哈 16:41
美国有一个大公司叫Sigram 16:43
是一个超级大的集团公司 16:45
他们收购了橙汁的那个公司 16:49
叫Trapicana 16:52
16:53
橙汁的公司呢 16:53
在中国因为中国人都爱喝橙汁 16:55
他们去四川那儿呢 16:57
做了一个橙子的果园 16:59
准备在四川把橙汁的那个浓缩呢 17:01
运到全国各地 17:05
他的那个包装厂 17:06
然后再去做成橙汁发送给中国各地 17:08
Seagram在收购Trappagana的时候呢 17:12
就说中国的这个果园要不要收购 17:15
画了一个问号 17:18
因为他们径直调查说来不及了 17:19
因为要到中国来什么 17:22
这个东西就变成了一个选择权 17:24
价已经定好了 2,100万 17:28
Seagram 17:30
在两年以后 17:30
他必须要说他要还是不要这个果园 17:32
Seagram这些人呢也特逗 17:35
就把这事给忘了 17:37
彻底把这事给忘了 17:39
完了到最后还有一个月 17:41
这个选择权就要到了 17:43
而且他们好像里头有一个倒逼的 17:45
就是说你要是不说不要 17:47
就是说明你要了 17:49
就得要付2,100万了 17:51
这时候Sigma急了 17:53
就说哎 17:55
这个不行啊 17:55
得找人去调查 17:56
然后Sigma呢 17:57
正好是标国的一个客户跑过来说 17:58
我们有一个紧急的需求 18:01
必须你们得要去那个橙汁园 18:03
帮我们去做一个调查 18:06
说看一看 18:07
那个橙汁园到底是好的还是不好的 18:08
企业经营的怎么样 18:12
树都是不是健康的 18:14
怎么怎么怎么着 18:16
何迪的父亲不是在农业部吗 18:17
我们就觉得这个我们接是没有问题的 18:19
所以我就在这谈合同 18:22
鄙人呢 18:24
虽然也不是商业的头脑特别好 18:25
但是总比这些红二代要好点 18:27
哈就是说他们太没这概念了 18:29
我就在那哈跟那个c group的人 18:32
他们就说怎么着 18:34
我说那你这个这么紧的活 18:35
而且我们要做调查 18:38
我们也得要做那什么 18:39
我们两个礼拜给你出活 18:40
那我们得派10个人出去 18:42
还得去四川 18:43
还得在国内 18:44
还得什么呢 18:45
我说这个活 18:46
没有50万美金是绝对下不来的 18:47
然后他们说啊 18:50
是的是的 18:51
是的跟我说 18:51
是你们能够出报告 18:53
什么两个礼拜要报告 18:54
我说你要再要报告的话 18:56
咱们就70万就 18:57
我正想抬价给他们 18:58
抬到100万的时候 18:59
他们说哎呀 19:01
这个要如果说超过了70万 19:02
我们就做不了决定了 19:04
你要要100万的话 19:07
我们要 19:08
不然明天再接着谈 19:09
今天晚上我们跟总部请示一下 19:10
我说行啊 19:12
19:13
这事谈完了 19:14
何迪他们过来说谈怎么样 19:15
我说已经谈到50万是没问题的了 19:16
我说现在就差这个70万还是100万 19:18
他们说哎呀 19:20
牛啊小丫头 19:21
你就是可以跟这些老外就靠你 19:22
这是 19:25
何迪说需要我做什么吗 19:26
我说 19:28
他们实际上就是想知道这些果园吧 19:28
能要不能要 19:31
是不是有病啊 19:31
或者是怎么样 19:33
就这个果园是不是健康的一个企业 19:34
他们2,100万美金该收不该收啊 19:36
知道知道第二天 19:39
那帮人不谈了吧 19:41
我们正在那70万100万在那扯呢 19:42
何迪总经理啊咣叽 19:45
一推门画儿我说啊 19:48
这你们see 19:51
Graham的哈 19:52
我说对对对对对啊 19:53
大家好大家好就跟大家好啊 19:54
用英文跟我说oh Huang 19:56
you know the orchard 19:59
you want to talk about it's the trees are all sick 20:00
他就说晃 20:04
你昨天跟我打听的那个果园 20:06
那些树大部分都有病 20:08
你说我那100万还怎么要啊 20:11
他已经把谜底就是 20:13
有的时候他们太有资源了 20:15
打一个电话说这个怎么样 20:18
怎么了马上就 20:20
他有一种叫什么龙 20:21
什么病我忘了 20:23
就是橙子果林里头一棵树得了 20:24
马上就一片那个病 20:28
要是果园有了 20:30
这个果园就 20:32
而且还传染了就没法弄了啊 20:33
他当着c group的面这么一说 20:35
那我那100万还怎么要啊 20:37
然后c group人说噢 20:40
他们也就特别诡异的这么一笑 20:42
给我气的我这100万就打水漂了 20:45
然后说那这样吧 20:48
我们觉得真的是不能出100万 20:50
说你看能不能10万块钱美金啊 20:53
啊就因为说了有病 20:56
对就因为把什么谜底给人家透露了 20:58
所以就彻底的跟我忏悔 21:01
然后我就跟他左抬杠右抬杠 21:04
抬到差不多20万美金 21:08
他还在那哈跟我说 21:11
就10万块钱美金 21:13
哎点点姐进来了 21:14
点点说你们这谈什么呢 21:16
然后我说就是关于去四川 21:18
点点是四川人 21:20
本来说做那个报告也是点点姐去做的 21:21
我说哎正好点点你过来 21:25
你跟他们说一下我们要去做报告 21:26
要怎么怎么样 21:29
然后他点点就说我们要还是要去的 21:30
然后那帮c group人就完全是敷衍了 21:33
说啊 21:35
我们知道的 21:36
当然这个报告我们还是要的 21:37
因为我们还是要显示 21:38
我们做了那个尽职调查 21:40
他们就问点点说 21:42
你觉得你干这些活需要20万吗点点说 21:44
不用 21:48
2万人民币就可以了 21:49
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈 21:50
我那时候谈的是20万美金 21:54
我就差不多 21:57
再给红二代要下跪了 21:58
你知道吗 22:00
就没见过这么没商业头脑的事 22:01
像什么中职企业的 22:04
什么谢志坤觉得我不会赚钱 22:06
你去看看这帮红二代 22:09
就他们的思想其实挺简单的 22:10
他们没有那么复杂 22:14
也没有那么功利的 22:16
特别逗的就是说 22:18
有一阵子 22:20
因为小鲁不是和安邦的那个吴晓辉 22:21
差来差去 22:26
就变成了 22:27
小鲁是中国隐藏的首富吗 22:27
你还记得吗 22:30
嗯我们那时候都拿小鲁开心 22:31
然后都给小鲁说请客 22:34
首富请客 22:36
首富请客 22:36
其实呢我们那个时候在公司里头呢 22:38
就特别不喜欢小鲁去帮吴晓辉 22:40
因为吴晓辉呢 22:43
也比较鬼 22:44
他在上海成立了一个 22:45
上海标准国际资产 22:46
什么咨询公司 22:49
什么跟我们的名字一样 22:50
这可以吗 22:52
因为我们没有去说任何 22:53
但是他就这么 22:55
22:56
他也是让小鲁当的董事长 22:57
北京的标国和上海的标国 22:59
都是陈小鲁当董事长 23:01
所以很多人会认为我们是同一个公司 23:02
嗯但是其实不是 23:05
就完全两个公司 23:07
后来上海的那个彪国呢 23:09
就可能出了点事 23:11
然后人家就跑到北京来查我们来了 23:12
这时候小鲁又要干洗脸了 23:14
你知道吗 23:16
所以我们就有点 23:17
就是那种要开董事长批判会的那样 23:18
就说你不能够再跟他走的那么近了 23:21
因为这个不对呀 23:23
你这个我们就没办法 23:25
小鲁就干洗脸 23:26
然后说我哪知道他会 23:28
我忘了是一个什么事了 23:29
税上头可能哪条什么偷了 23:31
什么也补了 23:34
但是就反正弄的就是说北京也在查呀 23:35
什么的大家都不开心吗 23:38
就因为这种名字那么接近 23:40
又还是小鲁当董事长 23:43
我们就说 23:45
我们得立条规矩了啊 23:46
小鲁 23:47
你不能随便出去给别人当董事长去了 23:47
那个时候小鲁说他是首富的时候 23:50
我说小鲁请客 23:53
小鲁就请我吃饭 23:54
还有几个朋友 23:56
我们都在那说 23:57
吴晓辉怎么怎么不地道 23:59
小鲁你为什么要给他站台啊 24:00
陈小鲁就看着我 24:03
说红黄 24:04
你那破杂 24:06
志公司谁是董事长 24:07
我说你是 24:09
你那破广告公司谁是董事长 24:10
我说也是你啊 24:13
然后他说完了 24:14
我给站台的人挺多的 24:15
200号也有了我没数 24:18
但是谁做出事来了 24:21
也就吴晓辉做出事来了 24:24
你有这本事吗 24:26
洪晃我说 24:27
我没这本事 24:28
那你就不要说别人了 24:29
我帮那么多人 24:31
都是我帮 24:33
帮出成绩的人来讲 24:34
为什么我就不能跟他再继续合作了呢 24:36
就因为你们都没出息是吗 24:39
但我觉得小鲁说的特别有道理 24:41
不管后头是怎么回事 24:43
我觉得的的确确 24:45
他帮了太多人了 24:47
而真正到最后会赚钱的人 24:50
当然 24:52
也是到最后给他惹了最大麻烦的人 24:53
但是他真的没在里头赚到任何钱 24:56
你要去求他就答应 24:59
我跟你说我上海买公寓的那事吗 25:03
我一朋友叫思甜 25:06
她特别喜欢看老公寓 25:08
那个时候我要在上海待一个周末 25:10
没事我就找他玩 25:12
他说你跟我一块看老公寓吧 25:14
我说行啊 25:15
然后我就跟他看老公寓 25:16
看到高安路上有一个老公寓 25:18
那个老房子叫阿麦伦 25:20
楼上呢就有一个老爷子 25:24
那个公寓就是那种40年代初完工的 25:26
完全是那种欧洲那个时候的建筑 25:31
很漂亮好 25:34
进去我就爱上了 25:35
但那个老先生呢 25:37
有一个特别严格的事情 25:38
老先生说 25:41
我爸爸是第一代跟着新四军到上海的 25:42
这个房子呢是政府分给我爸爸的 25:46
那么我爸爸去世之后呢 25:48
我就住在里头 25:50
他说我就一个原则 25:51
我这个房子绝对不卖给外国人 25:52
他说你呢 25:55
我想我说呦 25:56
我是美国人 25:57
然后他说的那就算了吧 25:58
我说不 26:00
不等一 26:01
下您父亲如果说是新四军 26:01
那一定是程毅元帅的部下 26:05
对吧他说那当然了我说 26:07
那你看 26:09
咱们是有缘分的 26:10
我呢是陈小鲁的部下 26:11
他说你不要为这个房子就这么样骗我 26:14
我说 26:17
我真的不是骗你 26:17
我真的是陈小鲁的部下 26:18
然后我记得那是一个星期六 26:20
我在中午看的他的房子 26:24
他说我根本不相信 26:25
你要是能证明的话 26:27
你去跟陈小鲁合影 26:29
让他给你签一个介绍信 26:30
我就把房子卖给你 26:32
所以这个房子我是当天飞机飞回北京 26:34
到北京都9点多了 26:38
杀到小鲁他们家去 26:40
把他从床被窝里头提溜出来 26:41
陈浩说你有什么事啊 26:43
我说我要在上海买一个房子 26:45
但是你必须给我写一个证明 26:46
按个手印什么的 26:48
陈浩说你怎么什么事都有啊 26:49
我说真的 26:51
那房子特好 26:52
但是那人就不卖给我 26:53
因为我是美国人 26:54
陈小璐看着我说要我我也不卖给你 26:55
就你这样的 26:57
然后他说的 26:58
说你有钱吗 26:59
我说没钱我就跟公司借 27:00
我就还拿了一个那个保利来 27:02
咔嚓拍了一张照片 27:04
借一成像 27:06
第二天早上飞回上海给老爷子看 27:07
老爷子就把公寓卖给我了 27:10
嘿缘分呐 27:12
就是缘分 27:14
你就知道 27:15
他就是这样的人 27:16
他真的不是那种特矫情 27:18
他也绝对不是首富 27:21
唯一一个的 27:23
他就好旅游 27:25
终身的愿望 27:26
就是要把全世界所有国家走遍 27:27
我还记得苏联解体的时候 27:30
他就又干洗脸来着 27:33
他说我这都已经走的一半都多了 27:34
这一下子又不行了 27:38
又那么多个地方 27:39
我还没去过 27:40
特可爱的这么一个人 27:42
点点也是一个 27:44
特别有意思特别好玩的人 27:46
除了在报价的时候特别不靠谱 27:48
但是干事的时候都是特别靠谱的 27:51
你看点点 27:54
他从彪国后来结束了之后 27:55
他就出来办了那个生前预嘱 27:58
28:00
这件事情我是特别佩服点点的 28:01
他刚开始办生前遗嘱的时候 28:05
真的是没钱 28:07
我记得他那个时候 28:09
给郑小龙写了一个剧本 28:10
叫急诊室 28:12
嗯好像赚了100万还是多少稿费 28:13
点点还跟我说 28:17
画啊 28:19
我挺高兴的 28:19
今天我请你吃饭 28:20
因为我突然间觉得 28:22
我的养老金我不担忧了 28:23
郑小龙给了我100万呢 28:25
对他们来讲是挺大一笔钱了 28:28
他们的经济状况 28:31
不是像外面所传说的那样 28:32
当然就是说他们不会愁吃愁穿 28:36
但是有的时候他们也会愁养老 28:38
就比如说他们想旅行啊 28:40
到老了你也希望条件好一点啊 28:43
对他们来讲 28:46
不是特别富裕的状况 28:47
我是很佩服这些人的 28:51
如果说我要有榜样和偶像 28:54
像罗点点陈小鲁 28:57
真的是我的榜样 28:59
我如果对什么东西有道德上头的犹豫 29:02
我会去找他们问这件事对还是不对 29:06
我不知道 29:10
社会上怎么会出来这么多的意义 29:11
而且为什么会这么喜欢 29:15
把这帮人给恶化了 29:18
对把他们污名化 29:19
29:21
想象中的抢男霸女的 29:21
这些事就遗传到现在 29:23
就觉得这些人占据了很多资源 29:25
他一定会怎么样怎么样 29:27
很多想象力 29:28
而且坏事传千里嘛 29:29
大家都会把负能量把这种东西装进去 29:31
29:34
真的我接触到的这些人 29:34
从他们的家里头的教育 29:37
都没有这种样的迹象 29:39
而且他们从小家里头也都 29:41
管的很严 29:44
那肯定的呀 29:45
那是老革命的孩子呀 29:46
29:47
不许大声说话 29:48
对警卫啊 29:49
什么厨师啊 29:51
这他们虽然家里头都有 29:52
但是都是一层一层教育下去 29:54
不能怎么怎么样的 29:56
而且因为我跟他们在一起的时候 29:57
比如说有一次我在他们家 30:00
就进来一个老太太 30:02
点点的妈妈还出来接待他呀 30:03
跟他一块唠家常啊 30:06
什么点点 30:07
他们都管他叫阿姨 30:08
我说这谁啊 30:09
他说这是我们小的时候 30:10
在我们家做过的保姆 30:12
几十年以后到北京来 30:14
还是要去看他们的 30:16
嗯这才是真正的革命二代 30:17
对我心目中革命的这些二代 30:22
或者是我见到过的就是这样的 30:25
我觉得这个污名化真的冤枉 30:27
嗯希望大家不要有那种刻板印象 30:31
而且刻板印象为什么都是坏印象呢 30:34
就不能有点刻板的好印象 30:36
那是第一代的革命家的后人 30:38
他们思想里头这种共产主义的 30:41
对啊思想 30:44
还有第一代的共产党为什么要闹 30:45
革命的思想 30:47
还是挺根深蒂固的 30:48
对就是 30:50
千万别把 30:50
现在很多那种富二代的一些 30:51
你想象的东西 30:53
和之前的那一代 30:54
特别革命那代人那话 30:56
那至于他们里头有没有歪瓜烂枣 30:58
我也不知道 31:00
我只能说我认识的人 31:01
但是我认识的人里头 31:03
就每次人家说红二代怎么怎么着 31:04
我就一激灵 31:07
我就觉得不会吧 31:08
怎么会都是这样 31:10
但是因为我也不认识别人 31:11
我就认识这么两个 31:12
这两个都是我非常非常尊重的人 31:14
31:17
也不能说我要给红二代证明啊 31:17
或者什么 31:20
但是我至少要说 31:21
不能这么样的固化印象 31:23
去理解第一代领导人的后裔 31:25
他们很多人现在并不过得很富裕 31:29
而且并没有利用自己的家庭的影响力 31:32
去大把大把捞钱 31:37
这真的是在小鲁和罗点点身上 31:39
是不存在的 31:41
况且的节目不教人怎么生活 31:42
就是用他的观点看到真实发生的事情 31:46
对你说 31:49
这么一帮不会挣钱的人 31:50
在我这我都看不起他们的赚钱能力 31:52
真的是不可能的 31:55
而且我觉得是不是中国有贪污分子 31:56
有贪官什么的 32:00
肯定有 32:01
而且呢反贪也是对的 32:02
但是不能这么样一刀切 32:04
我们看历史就是要从大面上去看 32:07
但是也必须从一个点上去看 32:12
这样才能够比较全面的 32:15
去了解一个事物 32:18
一群人一些事情 32:20
而不是大刀阔斧的 32:23
一刀下来 32:26
就把所有的红二代 32:26
全都说成是那种特别跋扈 32:28
特别贪的那种感觉 32:31
拍无穷洞的导演宁莹 32:34
对红二代有那种固化的印象 32:37
有一天我们在那说什么 32:40
我和点点说我们俩人想一块去买鞋 32:42
宁宁就特奇怪的看着我们俩 32:46
32:47
你们红二代还会买鞋 32:48
哈哈哈 32:50
当时我们俩就说红二代就得光脚吗 32:51
然后您就说说 32:54
我认为那红二代哪用买东西啊 32:56
到店里头啪一脚把门踹开来 32:58
说我要几号几号的 33:01
这双这双给我拿 33:02
十双都给我拿走 33:03
然后我们说 33:05
你是真把红二代想成都是强盗了 33:06
是不是 33:09
我就使劲说 33:10
我不是红二代 33:10
他说啊好好好 33:11
那你不抢 33:12
那点点总可以抢鞋吧 33:13
我说点点你什么时候去抢过鞋 33:15
这种固化印象 33:17
在我们的朋友里头也是有的 33:19
你就觉得哈 33:21
你怎 33:23
么会觉得活儿带到一个鞋店里头 33:23
一脚踹进去就说solo这双这双 33:26
这双39号的给我拿18双 33:29
这还停留在古代 33:31
对嗯 33:33
在我的成长过程当中 33:34
尤其是在标国的那几年 33:37
对我来讲也很重要 33:40
因为我有了一帮志同道合 33:43
技术比我还差的朋友 33:46
关键是这个 33:49
但是道德上又是我觉得是我的榜样的 33:50
这么一帮人一块工作 33:53
对我还是影响很大的 33:55
我从一个买办的德国金属出来 33:58
然后到了这个位置上 34:01
我还是非常欣慰 34:02
我有那么多年跟他们在一起 34:04
点点现在我们也是特别好的朋友 34:07
因为他们真的是非常正直的人 34:09
特别的感谢他们收纳了我 34:13
让我跟他们一起做那么几年 34:16
同时也纠正了我 34:19
那个时候可能比较崇洋媚外的观点 34:21
比如说外国人有求必应 34:25
就外国人让我达到的事情 34:27
我必须得要达到 34:29
我还得跟人说好话 34:30
我以完成外国人给我的任务 34:32
作为咨询者来讲为荣 34:36
他们就完全纠正了我 34:38
他到中国来做买卖 34:40
那当然得要遵守中国法律了 34:41
不行就是不行 34:43
知道他会说no 34:44
挺了不起的 34:46
34:47
至少在我的心目中是我最尊重的人 34:47
你也算是求仁得仁了 34:51
34:54
学到了好多东西 34:55
从他们身上看到了好多好多 34:56
怎么对人处事的道道 35:00
就包括小鲁打着绷带 35:03
骑着这个破28车见总裁的感觉 35:05
我头一次在那个总裁旁边 35:08
我觉得我特骄傲 35:11
某种时间里面 35:13
您会不会突然就想到 35:15
之前麦肯锡的那个老板 35:17
我想到拎着一个黑色的他 35:19
不会变的 35:23
他是谁他就是 35:24
谁他坚持是谁 35:26
他不会去在乎外边人是怎么去说他 35:27
因为他做人是有他自己原则的 35:30
嗯我就特别佩服这种人 35:33
厉害的人 35:36
东方和西方都是一样 35:36
35:38
那个Marvin 35:39
Bower和陈小鲁有特别相似的地方 35:40
就是永远出现的时候让人刮目相看 35:42
嗯那咱们今天这期就到这 35:47
好的咱们下期再见 35:50
下期再见 35:51

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[English]
Hello everyone, Uncle Luo
Hello Sister Huang
We are back again
Well
We talked about it last time
I want to talk about the second generation red
Hey
Mainly because after the fight in Cannes
After the fall
I discovered
Why everyone has such a contradictory impression of the second generation red
...
I always feel that these people are born noble
and domineering
But that’s not true
Well
As for me
I’m not a second-generation red generation
I’m at most a second-generation pink generation
What’s the real reason for that
My grandpa is a clear-minded person
He is a non-party person
Why is he a non-partisan
Because he is old-school
He debuted during the Qing Dynasty
That was still the time when there was an emperor
Well
When there was an emperor
Forming a party for personal gain
This is a bad thing
For serious crimes, everyone must be loyal to the emperor
There cannot be such a thing as a party
So in the Chinese language
the word party
For example, in the idiom zhudangzhengprivi
Well, he was not born in a favorable environment
The word "party"
So
My grandpa was particularly concerned about joining any party
At that time, Sun Yat-sen asked him to join the Kuomintang
He didn't go either
People always say that he is a democratic party
This is a non-partisan person
The principle he has set for himself
That is to say
I will not join any party
So
He has always been a non-partisan person
But as an independent person
he is more diplomatic
Hahaha
People from all political parties are his friends
All political parties also have his friends
After the founding of the People's Republic of China
He can become a member of the CPPCC
Become the Central Research Institute of Literature and History
He is the director of the Institute of Literature and History
Hmm
In my mind
My grandpa's position is the director of the Institute of Literature and History
Others are not impressive to me
I was too young at that time
He seemed to be a member of the CPPCC
What CPPCC Standing Committee member
The Standing Committee is a very big official, right
Well
You see our grandpa is still very impressive
I am a thief with no future and a prodigal son
Now I don’t even have a way to make money
He is
Member of the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress of the People's Republic of China
Member of the Standing Committee of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference
And you just said that the youngest one
is the director of the Central Museum of Culture and History
Yes, but you know
He is in my impression
and when I lived with him
What he is most proud of is that he is the director of the Museum of Culture and History
And he thinks that without his advocacy
This cultural and historical museum will not exist
He always tells others
I am the director of the cultural and historical museum
Then I asked him that he is grandpa
What do you do
He said I am a cultural and historical museum
I study history
Other political rises
For him, he does not say anything
So from this aspect?
I would say that I am pink at best
If my mother later married Qiao Guanghua
maybe I would be
but it does not mean that I am popular
it only means that she is a little more popular
I am still in that pink state
When I grew up
I didn’t have contact with the second generation of celebrities
In fact, it is easiest to contact the second generation of celebrities
It's like the process of your growing up
Because you are in a compound environment
Yes
There are many second-generation red generations in the army in the compound
And I guess
There are children of such senior officers
Not that high level
Generally speaking, the second-generation reds are children at the chief level
Chief level
It’s not that the second generation who worked in the revolution are all called the red second generation
Oh okay
What is the level of the chief?
Then it has to be the level of the revolution before the founding of the People’s Republic of China
The level of the revolution is acceptable
He came from Yan’an with a military position
Yes, even among you
During the Liberation War
You also have to be the kind of director-level me
I think we can be called the second generation.
Why do we have to be the commander of the army?
Legion level
Because we belong to the military.
Haha okay
We are not called the second generation.
Ah
The red second generation is in my mind.
They are a bunch of really awesome ones.
Really.
Children of the first generation of leaders of the People's Republic of China
Yes
They will all know each other
I don't know them
First of all
I'm about 10 years younger than them
I was born in 1961
They were all born in the past five years
or even earlier
Didn't I leave West German Metal
and set up my own company
Then I joined Standard International?
The chairman of Standard International is Chen Xiaolu
He is Chen Yi's son
The late 1990s
I have just come into contact with what the so-called red second generation is like
How did I get to Biaochang?
Aren't I dealing with non-ferrous metal people
Have I been dealing with it?
Later, when I stopped doing this West German metal
They said hey
What do you do yourself
I said to be a consulting company
How did he do it
I said just leave it like that
Anyway, it’s a bit awkward
He said
Why don’t you join a partnership with Biao Guo and the others
A person from non-ferrous metals
I said I don’t know who that is
He said they are Xiao Lu
A bunch of them have been playing together since they were young
A consulting company run by the red second generation
I was completely out of curiosity
I said yes
Then they introduced me to a
They were also one of the partners at the time
Mrs. He Di He Di
The non-ferrous metal person I met
was a friend or his sister
I told him that it was just one
and we had several layers of relationships
They asked me if I was interested
I said I was particularly interested
Then they asked Luo Yuan
who is Luo Ruiqing's youngest son to come to me
It felt a bit like an interview
Ha
Anyway, I had a good chat with Luo Yuan
Luo Yuan finished chatting with me
Then he said
I think you should talk to my sister again
Just Dian Dian
Then I chatted with Dian Dian again
We also had a good conversation
It was like two groups of people from Biaoguo screened me out
When I thought it was OK, I folded all my original business
into Biaoguo's business
Then I met Chen Xiaolu
I met Luo Diandian
and Luo Yuan
and He Di
I think Diandian and Luo Yuan
and Xiaolu are the second generation of celebrities
He Di's father was the Minister of Agriculture at the time
He was not the second generation of an old revolutionary official, right
The son of a high-ranking cadre family
Even a second generation official like that
At that time, they had an office in a small courtyard in Zhongshan Park
It was just a small room in the courtyard for one person
...
As an office
Then they also gave me an office.
There is also Colin
It seems that his family is from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs or something
He also came back from studying abroad
They said you can join the team
Just be with us
There is no airs
There is no problem
Then they all call Xiao Lu Big Brother
I remember when I first arrived there
The first task is to celebrate Xiao Lu’s birthday
I said it myself
Hey, I said I know
There is a cake maker in Beijing Hotel
It’s very delicious and Xiao Lu
It’s delicious
He likes ice cream cake
I said I know
I’ll get it
After I go there
Did they say they need to write on it?
I said I wanted to write happy birthday to my eldest brother
Hahaha, and then the people over there asked me
Are you the mafia?
Or what?
I especially feel that the eldest brother and the second brother are so awesome
As a Biaoguo country,
is a company that cannot be more lax
Such a company
And all of them are low-key
Can't be any more low-key
You know that Xiao Lu rides a bicycle wherever he goes
Firstly, he feels
that he needs to exercise like this
Secondly, he feels that he doesn't need a car
He doesn't want a driver either
He doesn't want these things either
Looking for someone from Biaoguo
They are all very big people from overseas
who come to us for this kind of cooperation
because they think you have many connections
Right, joking
We are no how plus no who
Not only have technology
We also have connections
Many foreigners will come to us
to help them solve some of their problems in China
or help them complete some projects
The people who come to recruit us
are usually introduced by pretty big guys
So the ones who come over and ask to see Xiao Lu
are also CEOs or something like that
They live in super cool places
They also treat guests to dinner
There is a Chang'an Street
There is a Chang'an Club of some kind
Hey, hey, hey.
That’s a really cool place.
It seems like that time
All foreigners
want to take down the financial brand
So they are all the bosses of big financial companies
Every time the boss goes out to eat
Xiao Lu is very good in English
But he doesn't like to speak
So he asked me to be his translator
Every time we go
For example, I am sitting in a car
The company's car
An Audi, I'm there
Hey, the boss picked him up at the door
You can see it's me
I said sorry, Xiao Lu
Let's come by ourselves later
Xiao Lu is here
Ride a broken bicycle
Hahaha
It's the kind of bicycle that is always 28
I'm here
He actually rides a bicycle sometimes
He beats his legs
We saw in the movie
The Eighth Route Army's kind of leg beating
Because he was afraid that the trousers legs
would get caught in the chain of the bicycle
And he was not particular about it
He just wore very casual and old clothes
After that, I slapped my legs
jumped off a 28 car
After I finished,
went to have dinner with the CEO
The CEO looked at me and said
This is you Chen Xiaolu
I said yes, yes, yes
This is Chen Xiaolu
Xiaolu is like this
He is a very, very down-to-earth person
He is also a very nice person
Very good
Who is quarreling in our company
Just me and Colin
Colin is a technical person
I am always the kind of consultant
I am a liar
So Colin thinks that I am just a liar
and I will deceive customers
I should go into sales
Let’s go to real work and invest
I won’t get involved
Because I don’t understand at all
In fact, he is right
I am wrong
But how can I accept the problem
I was just in my early 30s at that time
I don’t understand what it means
You know everything
So the two of us are always in shareholders’ meetings
Just the two of us have a quarrel
Everyone's eyes
must be looking at Chen Xiaolu
It means you are the referee
What do you say
You are the chairman
Then we will know
When Chen Xiaolu is worried
There is a habitual action called dry face washing
The older generation just holds that hand
On that face
Rub it hard
Oops
Just rub and rub your face
Don't say anything
Just rub your face here
Then we look worried
We said it's time to wash your face again
Hahaha, he doesn't want to say who is right and who is wrong
Then he will say a few words in a very conciliatory manner
At that time, I brought a customer
who was a German company
who made pistons
which are the pistons in car engines
They were doing a joint venture in China
and needed us to help them provide business consulting
And when we provided business consulting
they were particularly afraid
China had such a clause on reverse exchange
because at that time China was short of foreign exchange
All joint ventures have a
remittance requirement
They mean that if we
earn a certain percentage of the money we earn in China, we must repatriate a certain percentage
We can't do it
Because all our stuff is sold in China
They worry about this
But
they must have some foreign exchange
to go get their original technology or something
They were worried here
and asked Xiaolu if he could
Aren't we a business consultant
Then they knew Chen Xiaolu's background
and knew that Xiaolu's father was Chen Yi
Go for a walk on the Bund
When they saw Chen Yi's sculpture there
they must let me have a conference call with Xiaolu
Ask Xiao Lu if he can go to the Foreign Investment Committee in Shanghai
to clear up the matter
I was in Germany at that time
So I called home
I said Xiao Lu
You have to help me listen to their problem
See if you can go to Shanghai
Xiao Lu listened there
After listening
He said, Honghua, you can’t do this.
Why are you going to Germany?
Come back and call me.
Let me violate Chinese laws.
I said Xiaolu, this is serious.
I said no.
It’s this anti-foreign exchange thing.
They can’t do it.
...
...
We work within the legal structure
We do not work outside the legal structure
You have to think carefully
What can we change
But the laws of the People's Republic of China
I can't change
So they taught me and the foreigners a lesson there
I thought to myself
This Hong Erdan is not very reliable as a consultant
He didn't seem to want to help me
He just wanted to teach me a lesson
Basically, he taught the foreigners a lesson
The foreigner said what he said
I can only say
He will give it a try
But we are not sure how to do it
Anyway, we can find all kinds of things with others
In my impression
At least the red second generation I know
Their position is absolutely to safeguard national interests
This is very, very strong
I was with foreigners at that time
I'm quite willing to be their partner
Let's do it
We also know that there are some things that we can't change
There are national interests there
But we will explain it to foreigners very softly
Do you know
But they won't
They said in a hurry
You are unreasonable
Why do you ask me to change
This Xiao Lu is talking about me going to Germany to do business
Can I ask you to change the German law
This is really too whimsical
He will say this
If there is no one from the foreign side who understands Chinese
It's okay if you are a consulting company
I am at least in the translation
I can soften it
If there is someone from the foreign side who understands Chinese
Looking at people, I think what do I want this consultant to do?
He is here to teach me, right
From what I understand
How about Hong'er'ai
I didn't see it
I really didn't see it
I just think they are very principled
This is a
Secondly, they really don't know how to do business
Haha, you know
The second generation of red people were all born in the 1950s
So they have no foreign education
They are not like me
10 years younger than them
They also went to a foreign school
Of course I am not studying business
People who are 10 or 20 years younger than me
If those people have power
But what business school did they graduate from
Those people can make money
and also play finance
Then I think those are considered the second generation of officials
They are particularly powerful
But there are really no powerful ones among the second generation of red people
Because their education has already determined
What they can do
What they cannot do
My mother is very familiar with Zhang Yufeng
They once participated in some event together
Met Li Min
After the event
Li Min said
Come to our house
My mother sighed when she came back
Oh, this is Chairman Mao's daughter too
Their family
lived in a very ordinary apartment building
They chatted there
Chatted for a while
Everyone said they were a little hungry
Then Li Min said let's eat at our house
Then he took out handfuls of noodles
Really boiled them
Sprinkle some soy sauce
The meal was over
I really don't think that among the red second generation
I don't know who is extravagant
At least I haven't seen it
That's what I heard from my mother
There are also these first generation
children of the Chinese Communist Party
They will get together
but there is really no such thing as living and drinking
I have never seen this kind of thing
So I don’t know
Where does this kind of thing come from
As long as the red second generation
is mentioned, it seems like a privileged class
Stealing men and dominating women
That's right
It seems that
has a huge chain of contempt for the common people
In fact, the second generation red generation really has no chain of contempt
Like Xiao Lu
I know Luo Yuan and Diandian
In terms of moral standards
The people I respect the most
are these people
No choice
Diandian turned out to be a doctor
He is no longer a doctor
He came out of the system
He is in Biao Country
Then he is in Biao Country
He has been helping Biao Country to write something
Ah, we will have consultation matters
That's it for me to say
None of them can do business haha
There is a big company in the United States called Sigram
It is a super large group company
They acquired the orange juice company
called Trapicana
Well
What about the orange juice company
In China, because Chinese people love to drink orange juice
They went to Sichuan where they made an orange orchard
...
We are going to concentrate the orange juice in Sichuan
and transport it to all parts of the country
His packaging factory
Then make it into orange juice and send it to all parts of China
When Seagram acquired Trappagana
They asked whether they wanted to acquire this orchard in China
They drew a question mark
Because they directly investigated and said it was too late
Because why do they want to come to China
This thing has become an option
The price has been set at 21 million
Seagram
After two years
He has to say whether he wants this orchard or not
Seagram people are so funny
Just forget about it
Completely forget about it
There is still one month left until the end
This option is about to come
And they seem to have a coward among them
That means if you don't say no
It means you want it
You have to pay 21 million
At this time, Sigma was anxious
He said hey
This won't work
We need to find someone to investigate
And what about Sigma
It happened to be a customer of Biaoguo who ran over and said
We have an urgent need
You have to go to the orange juice garden
Help us do a survey
Tell us
Is that orange juice garden good or bad
How is the business running
Are the trees healthy
What's going on
Isn't He Di's father in the Ministry of Agriculture
We thought it would be no problem for us to accept this
So I just negotiated the contract here
What about me
Although I am not particularly good at business acumen
But it is better than these second-generation red generations
Ha, it means they have no concept
I was there with the people from the c group
They said what's wrong
I said you have such a tight job
And we have to do an investigation
We also have to do that
We will work for you in two weeks
Then we have to send 10 people out
We still have to go to Sichuan
We still have to be in China
What else do we need
I said this job
It is absolutely impossible to get it without 500,000 US dollars
Then they said
Yes, yes
Yes, tell me
You can make a report
Why do you have to report in two weeks
I said if you want to report again
Let's just give it 700,000
I was about to raise the price to them
When it reached 1 million
They said oh
If this price exceeds 700,000
We can't make a decision
If you want 1 million
We have to
Otherwise we can continue the discussion tomorrow
Let's ask the headquarters for instructions tonight
I said yes
OK
This matter is over
How about He Di and the others come over to talk
I said that 500,000 is no problem
I said the difference is now 700,000 or 1 million
They said oh
Niu, little girl
You can just rely on you to talk to these foreigners
This is
He Di said what do you need me to do
I said
They actually just want to know about these orchards
Can I have it
Are you sick
Or how about
Is this orchard a healthy enterprise?
Should they receive the 21 million US dollars?
I know the next day
Let's stop talking with those people
We are talking about the 701 million
General Manager He Di, ah bangji
I said it as soon as the door opened
Here you see
Graham's Ha
I said yes, yes, yes
Hello everyone, hello everyone
Say to me in English oh Huang
you know the orchard
you want to talk about it's the trees are all sick
He just said Huang
That orchard you asked me about yesterday
Most of those trees are sick
Why do you want my 1 million?
He has already told the answer.
Sometimes they have too many resources.
How about a phone call? The disease will soon spread
...
...
...
...
...
If there is one in the orchard
This orchard will
And if it is infected, there will be no way to cure it
He said this in front of c group
Then why do I still want the 1 million?
Then the c group people said oh
They also smiled in a very weird way
I was so angry that I spent the 1 million in vain
Then I said let’s do it
We really don’t think we can give out 1 million
Let’s see if we can get 100,000 US dollars
Oh, just because I said I was sick
Yes, just because I revealed the answer to others
So I completely confessed to me
Then I argued with him
and raised the price to almost 200,000 US dollars
He was still there and told me
It was only 100,000 US dollars
Hey, sister Dian Dian came in
Dian Dian said what are you talking about
Then I said it was about going to Sichuan
Dian Dian is from Sichuan
Originally, it was Sister Diandian who made the report.
I said, "Hey, Diandian, please come over."
You tell them that we are going to do the report.
...
...
...
...
...
...
...
We did the due diligence
They asked Diandian and said
Do you think you need 200,000 yuan to do these jobs? Diandian said
No
20,000 yuan will be enough
Hahahahahahaha
What I negotiated at that time was 200,000 US dollars
I was about the same
I will kneel down to the second generation of celebrities again
Do you know?
I have never seen such a lack of business acumen
Like a secondary vocational enterprise
Why does Xie Zhikun think I can't make money
Go and see these red second generation people
Their thoughts are actually quite simple
They are not that complicated
Nor are they so utilitarian
What's particularly funny is that
For a while
Because Xiao Lu wasn’t with Wu Xiaohui from Anbang
We were on a business trip
and it became
Is Xiao Lu the hidden richest man in China?
Do you still remember
Well, we were all happy about Xiao Lu at that time
Then we all said treat to Xiao Lu
The richest man treats
The richest man treats
In fact, we were in the company at that time
I especially don’t like Xiaolu helping Wu Xiaohui
Because Wu Xiaohui
is also quite weird
He established a
Shanghai Standard International Assets in Shanghai
What kind of consulting company
What has the same name as ours
Is this okay
Because we didn’t say anything
But he is like this
This
He is also the chairman of Rang Xiaolu.
Beijing Biaoguo and Shanghai Biaoguo
both have Chen Xiaolu as the chairman
So many people will think that we are the same company
Well, but it is not
It is completely two companies
Later, what about the Biaoguo in Shanghai
Something may have happened
Then people came to Beijing to check us
At this time, Xiao Lu wants to wash his face again
Do you know
So we are a bit
It’s like holding a chairman’s criticism meeting
Just say you can’t be so close to him anymore
Because this is wrong
We can’t do anything about you
Xiao Lu just washes his face
Then he said I didn’t know he would
I forgot what it was.
Maybe something was stolen from the tax
Everything was paid
But anyway, what they did was to say that Beijing was also investigating
Isn’t everyone happy?
Just because the names are so close
Xiao Lu is still the chairman
Let’s say
We have to set some rules
Xiao Lu
You can't just go out and become the chairman of others
At that time, Xiao Lu said that he was the richest man
I said Xiao Lu was treating me
Xiao Lu invited me to dinner
There were a few friends
We were all talking there
Why is Wu Xiaohui not authentic
Xiao Lu, why do you want to give him a platform?
Chen Xiaolu just looked at me
Talk about red and yellow
Your shabby Za
Who is the chairman of Zhi Company
I said you are
Who is the chairman of your shabby advertising company
I said it’s you too
Then he finished speaking
I have a lot of people to support
There are also No. 200, I can’t count
But who did something?
Wu Xiaohui is the only one who has done something
Do you have the ability
Hong Huang, I said
I don’t have the ability
Then don’t blame others
I help so many people
It’s all about the people who have achieved results
I help
Why can’t I continue to cooperate with him?
Is it because you all have no future?
But I think what Xiao Lu said is very reasonable.
No matter what happened later
I think it is true
He helped too many people
And the person who really makes money in the end
Of course
is also the person who caused him the most trouble in the end
But he really didn’t make any money in it
If you go and ask him, just agree
Did I tell you about the time I bought an apartment in Shanghai
A friend of mine is called Si Tian
She especially likes to look at old apartments
At that time, I was going to stay in Shanghai for a weekend
I would play with him if I had nothing to do
He said you can look at old apartments with me
I said yes
Then I looked at old apartments with him
I saw an old apartment on Gaoan Road
That old house is called Amerun
There is an old man upstairs
That apartment was completed in the early 1940s
It was exactly the kind of European architecture of that time
It was very beautiful
I fell in love as soon as I entered
But what about the old gentleman
There was a particularly strict thing
The old gentleman said
My father was the first generation to follow the New Fourth Army to Shanghai
This house was allocated to my father by the government
So what happened after my father died
I lived in it
He said I had one principle
My house will never be sold to foreigners
He said what about you
I think I said yo
I am an American
Then forget it as he said
I said no
Wait a minute
If your father said he was the New Fourth Army
That must be Marshal Cheng Yi's subordinates
Right, he said, of course, I said
Then you see
We are destined
I am Chen Xiaolu's subordinate
He said don't lie to me like this for this house
I said
I really am not lying to you
I am really Chen Xiaolu's subordinate
Then I remember it was a Saturday
I saw his house at noon
He said I didn’t believe it at all
If you can prove it
You go take a photo with Chen Xiaolu
Ask him to sign a letter of introduction for you
I will sell the house to you
So I flew back to Beijing for this house on the same day
It was past 9 o'clock when I arrived in Beijing
Go to Xiao Lu's house
Lift him out from under the bed quilt
Chen Hao said, what's the matter with you?
I said I want to buy a house in Shanghai
But you have to write me a certificate
A fingerprint or something
Chen Hao said, why do you have everything?
I'm serious
That house is very nice
But that person wouldn't sell it to me
Because I'm an American
Chen Xiaolu looked at me and said, I won't sell it to you if you want me
It's just like you
Then he said
Do you have money
I said I didn't have money, so I borrowed it from the company
I even brought a Poly Poly
Clicked and took a photo
Borrow an image
The next morning I flew back to Shanghai to show it to the old man
The old man sold the apartment to me
Hey fate
It’s fate
You know that
That’s the kind of person he is
He’s really not that kind of pretentious
He’s definitely not the richest man
The only one
He just likes to travel
A lifelong wish
I want to visit all the countries in the world
I still remember when the Soviet Union disintegrated
He just washed his face again
He said that I had already walked more than half of the way
Now I can’t do it again
There are so many places
I haven’t been yet
Such a cute person
Dot and Dian is also the same
A very interesting and fun person
Except that he is very unreliable when quoting
But he is very reliable when doing things
Look at Diandian
After he came to the Biao Kingdom
he came out to make the living will
Well
I really admire Diandian for this matter
When he first started to make the living will
Really have no money
I remember that at that time
he wrote a script for Zheng Xiaolong
Call the Emergency Room
Well, it seems that he earned 1 million or what the royalties were
Dot and Dian even told me
Let’s draw
I’m very happy
I’ll treat you to dinner today
Because I suddenly felt
I don’t have to worry about my pension anymore
Zheng Xiaolong gave me 1 million
It’s quite a lot of money for them
Their financial situation
is not like what is said outside
Of course it means they won’t worry about food and clothing
But sometimes they also worry about providing for their old age
For example, they want to travel.
When you get older, you also hope for better conditions.
For them,
is not a particularly wealthy situation.
I admire these people very much.
If I want to have role models and idols
Like Luo Diandian Chen Xiaolu
They are really my role models
If I have moral hesitation about something
I will go to them and ask if it is right or not
I don’t know
How come there are so many meanings in society
And why do you like them so much
It worsens these people
It stigmatizes them
Yes
Imaginary men who snatch men and dominate women
These things have been inherited until now
I feel that these people occupy a lot of resources
What will happen to him
A lot of imagination
And bad things spread thousands of miles
Everyone will put negative energy into this kind of thing
Yes
Really these people I come into contact with
From their family education
there is no such sign
And they were all
very strict when they were young
That's for sure
Those are the children of the old revolution
Ah
Don't speak loudly
To the guards
What kind of chef
Although they have them at home
But they are educated layer by layer
I can't do anything
And because when I was with them
For example, once I was at their house
an old lady came in
Diandian's mother even came out to receive him
Chatting with him about daily life
What Diandian
They all called him aunt
I said who is this
He said this was when we were young
The nanny who worked in our family
When I come to Beijing decades later
I still want to see them
Well, this is the real revolutionary second generation
For these second generation revolutionaries in my mind
Or this is what I have seen
I think this stigma is really unjust
Well, I hope everyone will not have that stereotype
And why are stereotypes always bad impressions
You can't have a good stereotype
They are the descendants of the first generation of revolutionaries
They have this kind of communist thought
Yes,
And why did the first generation of Communists want to make trouble
The revolutionary idea
is still quite deep-rooted
That's right
Don't put it
Nowadays, there are many rich second generation people
What you imagine
and the previous generation
Especially the revolutionary generation
As for whether there are any crooks among them
I don’t know
I can only talk about the people I know
But among the people I know
Every time someone talks about what the red second generation is doing
I get excited
I don’t think so
How can it be like this
But because I don’t know anyone else
I only know these two people
These two are people I respect very much
Well
I can’t say that I want to prove it to the second generation of red people
Or something
But I at least want to say
You can’t have such a solid impression
To understand the descendants of the first generation leaders
Many of them are not very wealthy now
And they have not used the influence of their families
to make a lot of money
This is really about Xiao Lu and Luo Diandian
It does not exist
Moreover, the program does not teach people how to live
It is to use his point of view to see what really happened
Tell you
Such a group of people who can't make money
In my case, I even look down on their ability to make money
It's really impossible
And I wonder if there are corrupt elements in China
There are corrupt officials or something
There must be
And anti-corruption is right
But it can't be applied across the board
When we look at history, we have to look at it from a broad perspective
But we must also look at it from one point
so that we can have a more comprehensive
understanding of a thing
a group of people and something
rather than a drastic
blow
and describe all the red second generation
as being particularly domineering
and particularly greedy
Director Ning Ying
who filmed Infinite Hole has a solid impression of the second generation of celebrities
What were we talking about one day
Diandian and I said that we wanted to buy shoes together
Ning Ning looked at the two of us strangely
said
You second generation celebrities also buy shoes
Hahaha
At that time, we both said that the red second generation must go barefoot
Then you talk about it
I don’t think the red second generation should buy anything
Go to the store and kick the door open
Tell me what size I want
Give me this pair
Give me all ten pairs
Then we say
Do you really think that the second generation of red people are all robbers?
Don’t you?
I said hard
I'm not a red second generation
He said, okay, okay
Then if you don't grab it
Then you can always grab the shoes
I said, "Dian, when did you grab the shoes?
This kind of solid impression
is also among our friends
You feel like it
How do you
think that you have to bring your work to a shoe store?
Just kick in and say this is the solo pair
Get me 18 pairs of this pair in size 39
This is still in the ancient times
Yeah
In the process of my growth
Especially in the years in Biaoguo
It is also very important to me
Because I have a group of like-minded friends
who are worse than me in technology
The key is this
But morally speaking, I think he is my role model
Such a group of people working together
still has a great influence on me
I came from a comprador German metal
and then to this position
I am still very happy
I have been with them for so many years
Now we are very good friends
Because they are really very upright people
Special thanks to them for accepting me
and letting me work with them for so many years
At the same time, they also corrected me
At that time, I may have been more advocating for foreigners.
For example, foreigners responded to their requests
As for the things foreigners asked me to achieve
I must achieve it
I also have to say nice things to people
I am proud to complete the task given to me by foreigners
As a consultant
They corrected me completely
He went to China to do business
Of course he must abide by Chinese laws
No, it just doesn’t work
Knowing that he would say no
It’s amazing
Well
At least in my mind, he is the person I respect the most
You can be regarded as benevolent
Well
I learned a lot
I saw a lot from them
How to deal with people
Including Xiaolu wearing a bandage
The feeling of riding this shabby 28 car to meet the president
It was the first time that I was next to the president
I felt very proud
In a certain time
Do you suddenly think of
the boss of McKinsey before?
I think of him carrying a black one
It will not change
He is who he is
Who he insists on being
He doesn't care what outsiders say about him
Because he has his own principles in life
Well, I really admire this kind of person
Awesome people
The East and the West are the same
Well
That Marvin
Bower and Chen Xiaolu are very similar
They always make people look up and down when they appear
Well, let’s stop here for today’s issue
Okay, let’s see you next time
See you next time
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Vocabulary Meanings

红二代

/hʊ́ŋ ɤ́ɻ̩ tâi/

B2
  • noun
  • - children of high‑ranking Communist Party officials (often called “red second generation”)

/tɑ̂ŋ/

A2
  • noun
  • - political party

文史馆

/wən ʂɨ̀ ɡwɑ̂n/

B1
  • noun
  • - cultural‑history museum

政协

/ʈʂɤ̂ŋ ɕjɛ̂/

B2
  • noun
  • - Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC)

全国人大

/tɕʰɥɛ̂ⁿ kwô tʂɤ̂ ɻən tɑ̂/

B2
  • noun
  • - National People's Congress of China

合资

/xɤ̂ t͡sɨ̂/

B1
  • verb
  • - to form a joint venture
  • noun
  • - joint venture

外汇

/wâ ɦwêi/

B1
  • noun
  • - foreign exchange (currency)

咨询

/tsɨ̂ t͡ɕɥî/

B1
  • verb
  • - to consult / to give advice
  • noun
  • - consultation, advisory service

投资

/tóu ɕɨ̂/

B1
  • verb
  • - to invest
  • noun
  • - investment

合作

/xɤ̂ tsɤ̂/

B1
  • verb
  • - to cooperate, to collaborate
  • noun
  • - cooperation, partnership

关系

/ɡuân ɕî/

A2
  • noun
  • - relationship, connection

资本

/tsɨ̂ pən/

B2
  • noun
  • - capital (financial assets)

领导

/lǐŋ tɑ̂ʊ/

B1
  • noun
  • - leader, leadership
  • verb
  • - to lead

原则

/ɥɤ́n tsɤ̂/

B2
  • noun
  • - principle, rule

经验

/tɕîŋ îɛn/

B1
  • noun
  • - experience

关键

/kwan tɕjɛn/

B1
  • adjective
  • - key, crucial

负责

/fû tʂɤ̂/

A2
  • verb
  • - to be responsible for

讨论

/tɑ̂ʊ lùn/

B1
  • verb
  • - to discuss
  • noun
  • - discussion

发展

/fâ tʂɑ̂n/

B1
  • verb
  • - to develop, to grow
  • noun
  • - development

影响

/ǐŋ ɕjɑ̂ŋ/

B1
  • verb
  • - to influence, to affect
  • noun
  • - influence, impact

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Key Grammar Structures

  • 我外公是一个明主人士

    ➔ Copula sentence with 这 (àn) as subject marker

    ➔ In the sentence "我外公是一个明主人士", "这" is used as a demonstrative pronoun to mark the topic, emphasizing "my grandfather" as the subject of the copula "是", common in Mandarin to introduce or specify a noun phrase.

  • 他一直就是会跟别人说

    ➔ Progression with 就 expressing immediacy

    ➔ In "他一直就是会跟别人说", "就" emphasizes the continuity and immediacy of the action "会跟别人说" (would tell others), indicating habituality without delay.

  • 他们所有的人都是低调

    ➔ Existential sentence with 都 for totality

    ➔ In "他们所有的人都是低调", "都" indicates that all (plural) subjects "所有的人" exhibit the quality "低调", covering the entire group.

  • 小鲁英文很好,但他是不会说的

    ➔ Adversative conjunction 但 with negation

    ➔ In "小鲁英文很好,但他是不会说的", "但" connects contrastive clauses, "他是不会说的" uses negation "不" to emphasize reluctance despite ability.

  • 他也不要司机

    ➔ Negation with 也不 for double negation

    ➔ In "他也不要司机", "也不" reinforces negation, meaning "neither does he want a driver", building on previous negatives.

  • 小鲁来了,骑个破自行车

    ➔ Contractive aspect with 了 indicating completion

    ➔ In "小鲁来了,骑个破自行车", "了" in "来了" marks the completion of "来" (arrive), paired with descriptive action.

  • 他居然有的时候骑自行车

    ➔ Concession with 居然 for unexpectedness

    ➔ In "他居然有的时候骑自行车", "居然" expresses concession or unexpectedness, "有的时候" adds occasionality to the action.

  • 我们没一个会做买卖的

    ➔ Negation with 没一个 for 'none of us' emphasis

    ➔ In "我们没一个会做买卖的", "没一个" emphasizes "none of us" can do business, using "会" for potential ability negated.

  • 我们还是要去的

    ➔ Modal particle 要 expressing necessity

    ➔ In "我们还是要去的", "要" indicates obligation or need to "去", "还是" contrasts previous possibilities.

  • 我有那么多帮人

    ➔ Demonstrative 那多 for 'that many'

    ➔ In "我有那么多帮人", "那么多" means "so many" people helped, "有" indicates possession or experience.

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