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2025年 希臘禁止單身 00:00
或男性同志伴侶尋求代孕 00:02
義大利更立法重罰在海外代孕 00:05
但2024年愛爾蘭也傾向開放代孕 00:08
由第三方幫忙懷孕生子 00:11
到底合不合適 00:14
或者為了避免子宮商品化 00:15
根本不該討論 00:18
但爭議將近30年 00:19
究竟各界怎麼看 00:21
阿陌是鄒宗翰跟同志伴侶到美國 00:30
透過代孕生下的孩子 00:32
歷經四年 00:35
換過孕母才成功 00:36
代孕的過程拉很長 00:37
我們其實會自問 00:39
跟被別人一直問說 00:40
你為什麼要有小孩 00:42
代孕的過程當中失敗的時候 00:43
你也會再問自己說 00:45
我真的有要小孩 00:46
鄒宗翰曾在社群公開發表 00:49
尋求代孕的歷程與心得 00:51
但反而遭到不少網友批評 00:54
也曾在失敗後 00:56
彼此深談想要孩子的初衷 00:57
這就很像你人生有很多台的列車 00:59
他開往不同的目的地 01:02
不同的方向 01:04
那我們希望我們的人生的這個 01:05
目的地跟方向是有孩子的 01:07
另一位選擇走上代孕之路的是Cindy 01:10
因為生第一胎時差點喪命 01:13
我在生完大寶之後的第三天 01:16
本來要出院了 01:19
突然菌血症病發 也就是說 01:21
細菌已經透過血液跑到全身各處 01:23
我當下真的是萬念俱灰 01:27
那次的生產陰影 01:30
讓Cindy失去再次懷孕的勇氣 01:31
直到她的美國醫師建議 01:34
若還想要孩子 01:36
代孕也許是選項 01:38
我仍然想了大概有一整年 01:40
因為我有各種的擔憂 01:43
我又不相信這個世界上有另外一個人 01:45
會像我一樣愛護我的小孩 01:47
你必須要學會去信任 01:49
他們都是在美國 01:52
才圓了當爸媽的夢 01:53
通常要先經歷診所諮詢 01:55
孕母配對 取精取卵 孕母懷孕 01:58
生產的過程 02:01
但並非每次人工受孕都能成功 02:02
這樣的流程可能需要反覆進行 02:05
最後也可能失敗 02:08
台灣沒有正式的尋求代孕者統計 02:10
但2019年至今 02:13
台灣同志家庭權益促進會 02:14
接代孕相關諮詢約1600人次 02:17
就我自己目前的觀察 02:20
應該只有三 四成的夥伴是在這 02:22
是在這五六年間完成代孕的 02:24
因為有個很大的挑戰 02:26
是因為疫情的關係 02:27
整個代孕的流程一定是停下來的 02:29
海外代孕資訊不透明 02:32
導致許多代孕委託者陷入困境 02:34
像是泰國早在2015年 02:37
就禁止外國人進行代孕 02:39
但仍然有許多台灣人不知情簽下契約 02:41
當這個需求不被消失 02:45
他只會走向地下化 02:47
他可能透過協議結婚 02:48
或者是說找願意的女性 02:50
付他一筆錢之後 02:52
在沒有任何保障的狀況之下去進行 02:53
他透過非法代孕的方式 02:55
反而導致代孕者的權益不明朗 02:56
也導致了孩子有可能帶不回台灣 02:59
2024年5月 行政院衛生福利部公告 03:02
人工生殖法修正草案 03:05
內容最引人注目的無疑是 03:08
代孕生殖制度 03:10
包括有條件開放代理孕母 03:12
互助原則下 03:14
不收取法定費用以外的報酬或利益 03:16
也只限夫妻或同性伴侶 03:19
不開放單身尋找代孕 03:22
且配偶或同性伴侶至少一方 03:24
必須有我國戶籍 03:27
而代理孕母也必須符合一定資格 03:29
包含在台灣設有戶籍 03:31
年滿20歲 但未滿40歲 03:34
有足月懷胎生產經驗 03:36
只能代孕一次 03:39
不過對於台灣是否適合推動代孕合法 03:40
各方質疑從未停止過 03:44
婦女新知基金會認為 03:46
生育權指的是 03:48
自己是否要生育的自由 03:50
但代孕牽涉到另一個人的身體 03:52
應該重新審視 03:55
在國際法裡面是沒有一個權利 03:57
叫做擁有小孩的權利 03:59
你能不能夠有血緣小孩這件事情 04:01
就不會是制度上面 04:04
必須要做最大的考慮 04:05
另外也必須考慮 04:07
女性是否會受到經濟或是 04:08
家庭壓力等外部因素 04:11
非自願地成為代理孕母 04:13
我們必須要去思考到最弱勢的人 04:15
或是在這個文化處境裡面 04:17
最困難的人那群人 04:19
他會面臨到什麼樣的困境 04:20
我們制度應該要怎麼樣回應他 04:21
而不是說 04:23
因為你已經資訊給他了 04:24
其他都是他自己的選擇 04:26
在歐洲 不少國家受到基督教文化 04:28
與傳統倫理觀念影響 04:31
對於代孕持反對立場 04:33
甚至用刑法來禁止 04:35
在法國 法律規定 04:37
所有關於代孕的契約不具效力 04:39
如果有人幫忙介紹代孕 04:42
也可能構成刑事犯罪 04:43
在德國 為代理孕母進行人工授精 04:46
或胚胎植入的行為 04:49
可能面臨3年以下的徒刑 04:51
而義大利則是在2004年 04:53
通過一項法律 04:55
禁止一切形式的代孕 04:57
相較之下 04:59
美國加州的商業代孕態度開放 05:01
像是不限制代理孕母收費 05:04
也不限制委託人一定要是美國公民 05:06
孩子一出生就能與委託父母 05:09
具備法律上的親子關係 05:12
這也讓美國加州成為 05:14
許多人尋求代孕的首選 05:16
也有專門經營的業者 05:18
在台灣辦說明會 05:20
不管是澳洲也好 或是美國 05:22
在一些研究報告裡面就指出說 05:24
這些成為代理育母的人 05:27
他其實他是以20歲到30歲 05:29
然後白種人 05:33
(孕母)高等教育人士不在少數 05:34
原本我們預期中 05:37
非法移民 被剝削的人 05:38
就是他成為代理孕母那個樣態 05:41
我覺得是有相當差距的 05:43
為了保障代孕者權益 05:45
紐約州2021年也通過 05:48
全美最嚴格的代孕者人權條款 05:50
像是律師諮詢 身體自主權 05:53
產檢與保險 全都明文保障 05:56
站在我們法律的分析來講的話 05:59
對於代理孕母的 06:02
事前同意權或者是說 06:03
法律面的保障 06:05
身心規範的東西 06:06
其實是有一些規範的 06:07
那這些周不周全 06:09
我覺得可以討論 06:11
在法規上 06:13
英國跟澳洲的利他代孕是另一種選擇 06:14
英國在立法時不是採取契約制 06:18
而是雙方協議 06:21
彼此間不是僱傭關係 06:22
代孕者是法律上的母親 06:25
子女出生後六週內 06:27
可以無條件反悔 06:28
保有更大的自主權 06:30
委託者也就沒有那個 06:32
指揮監督的權利 06:33
也可以讓他比較有那個感激的機會 06:36
然後會覺得說 06:39
你真的是幫我做了一個 06:40
非常偉大的事情 06:43
然後真的很感激 06:44
而不是覺得理所當然 06:44
這是我付錢應該得到的服務 06:46
2023年英國法律委員會 06:49
再做出改革建議 06:51
讓孩子出生後的親權屬於委託者 06:53
但孕母仍有機會反悔 06:56
並且明定合理的孕產費用 06:58
孕母的人身保險費用 07:01
臺灣雖然概念上也是利他 07:03
但雙方以契約作為主要規範 07:05
英國可以走到這樣 07:09
一個比較簡便的方式 07:10
是因為他們已經有40年的經驗 07:11
現在至少有四個NGO 07:14
是很有經驗然後可以去協助 07:16
代孕者跟委託者去協商 07:18
國外的經驗就發現說 07:20
一個代孕要有好的經驗 07:21
不是只是你前面的契約定的很細 07:24
這過程萬一發生了什麼問題 07:27
有沒有好的處理方式是能夠 07:29
讓雙方可以站在同一條船上 07:31
Lily是台灣人 07:34
嫁給美國軍人的先生 07:35
目前跟先生及兩個孩子在美國生活 07:37
她從網路社團上得知其他人的經驗後 07:40
主動聯絡仲介想成為代理孕母 07:44
可以幫助人家不孕的家庭 07:47
或是同性家庭 07:49
他們能有自己的小孩 07:51
完成一個家 07:52
是一個很榮幸很開心的事情 07:53
所以我很想去做 07:55
雖然 Lily也有獲得報酬 07:56
扣除孕產所需費用 07:58
但她估算獲得的錢 08:01
大約是五萬美元 08:02
與她在美國做外送的薪水差不多 08:04
他不是只有人家說的去被剝削 08:08
或者是只有底層才會去做的事情 08:11
或是人家都說為了錢才去做 08:14
其實不全然都是你們所想的那樣子 08:16
才會有人願意去做代孕 08:18
但這段代孕旅程也不是全無風險 08:20
Lily在生產時就曾經大出血 08:24
不是摘子宮就是可能會死嘛 08:27
就是二選一嘛 08:29
生產本來就是有風險 08:30
我沒有那麼害怕的原因 08:31
其實也是因為 08:32
我現在是在一個大醫院 08:33
所以我是很相信醫療團隊 08:35
英國倫敦大學研究指出 08:37
多數英國的代孕者跟委託者之間 08:39
還維持良好的關係 08:42
甚至小孩也知道 08:44
自己是代孕出生的 08:45
兩個家庭間更像是合作關係 08:47
讓代孕者的經驗更為正向 08:50
我們連在捐贈精卵這件事情 08:52
都有很多父母親 08:55
其實是不願意讓孩子知道 08:56
在將來這些委託的夫妻 08:58
他們能不能真的把 09:01
代孕者當成一個夥伴一樣 09:02
這個也會考驗臺灣的 09:04
這種親權的文化 09:07
然而 台灣已經走到了草案的討論 09:09
目前的制度設計 09:12
是否真的能保護孕母 09:13
同家會認為還是不夠 09:15
很多現行之下懷孕的女性 09:18
都很容易被拒保 09:20
那在這樣的狀況之下 09:21
代孕者如何得到 09:23
應有的醫療險的保障 09:24
這是必須要去進一步思考 09:25
第三個我們認為居間機構 09:27
也就是做代孕服務媒合這些單位 09:29
他不能夠淪為醫療單位的白手套 09:32
如果真的發生爭議 09:35
臺灣衛福部是否能擔起 09:36
管理責任也是考量重點 09:38
它會出的問題跟過去國健署 09:41
所遇到的問題不太一樣 09:44
會出問題的不是那些醫事人員 09:45
而且它也不是醫療的技術 09:48
或資格的問題 09:50
而是一些生活上面大大小小的 09:51
關係上面一些大大小小 09:54
可能出現的那些問題 09:56
我們另外一個假設是認為 10:52
我們要去保護女性 或是我們要啟動 10:55
女性的不聰明選擇 或是你自我商品化的選擇 10:58
可是這個這個真的是成立嗎? 11:03
我們不是 就是在臺灣的教育裡面提升我們的 而不管是性別或是兩性的地位 11:05
而且我們是透過各種法子在組織人事 也透過各種 11:11
教育的專業知識 也許當我們認為這些一切都是空的嗎? 11:14
Lily不會感覺自己被干涉 11:59
生活中與委託方保持適當聯繫 12:01
分享產檢狀況與胎兒動靜 12:04
也在產後收到對方 12:07
定期傳來的孩子照片與影片 12:09

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In 2025, Greece banned single individuals
or male same-sex couples from seeking surrogacy.
Italy has even legislated severe penalties for pursuing surrogacy abroad.
However, in 2024, Ireland is also leaning towards legalizing surrogacy.
When a third party helps with pregnancy and childbirth,
is it really appropriate?
Or, to avoid the commodification of the uterus,
should it not even be discussed?
But with nearly 30 years of debate,
what are the views of various sectors?
Ah-Mo is the child Zou Zonghan and his same-sex partner had through surrogacy in the United States.
透過代孕生下的孩子
After four years
and a change of surrogate mother, they finally succeeded.
The surrogacy process was very lengthy.
We actually asked ourselves
and kept being asked by others,
why we wanted to have children.
During the failed attempts in the surrogacy process,
you also ask yourself again,
do I really want to have children?
Zou Zonghan once publicly shared on social media
his journey and experiences seeking surrogacy.
But instead, he faced criticism from many netizens.
After a failure, they also
had deep talks about their initial reasons for wanting children.
It's like you have many trains in life
heading to different destinations
in different directions.
And we hope that our life's
destination and direction include having children.
Cindy is another person who chose the path of surrogacy.
Because she almost died giving birth to her first child.
On the third day after giving birth to my first child,
when I was about to be discharged,
I suddenly developed bacteremia, which means
bacteria had spread throughout my body via the bloodstream.
At that moment, I really felt hopeless.
The trauma from that delivery
made Cindy lose the courage to get pregnant again.
Until her American doctor suggested that
if she still wanted children,
surrogacy might be an option.
I still thought about it for about a year
because I had all kinds of worries.
I didn't believe there was another person in the world
who would love my child as much as I do.
You have to learn to trust.
They both fulfilled their dreams of becoming parents
in the United States.
Typically, one must first go through clinic consultations,
surrogate matching, sperm and egg retrieval, surrogate pregnancy,
and the delivery process.
However, not every artificial insemination is successful.
This process may need to be repeated.
And may ultimately fail.
There are no official statistics on those seeking surrogacy in Taiwan.
But since 2019,
the Taiwan LGBT Rights Advocacy Association
has received about 1,600 inquiries related to surrogacy.
From my own observation,
only about 30 to 40 percent of those
have completed surrogacy in the last five or six years.
Because there is a big challenge,
which is due to the pandemic.
The entire surrogacy process has definitely been halted.
The lack of transparency in overseas surrogacy information
has led many commissioning parents into difficulties.
For example, Thailand banned foreigners from pursuing surrogacy
as early as 2015.
But many Taiwanese are still unaware and sign contracts.
When this demand is not eliminated,
it will only go underground.
They may go through arranged marriages
or find willing women,
pay them a sum of money, and then
proceed without any safeguards.
By using illegal surrogacy methods,
the rights of the surrogate are left unclear,
and it may also lead to the child not being able to be brought back to Taiwan.
In May 2024, the Ministry of Health and Welfare of the Executive Yuan announced
draft amendments to the Artificial Reproduction Act.
The most noteworthy content is undoubtedly the
surrogacy reproductive system,
including the conditional opening of surrogate mothers
under the principle of mutual assistance,
without collecting compensation or benefits other than legally prescribed fees.
It is also limited to married couples or same-sex partners.
Single individuals are not allowed to seek surrogacy.
And at least one spouse or same-sex partner
must have household registration in our country.
Surrogate mothers must also meet certain qualifications,
including having household registration in Taiwan,
being at least 20 years old but under 40 years old,
having experience of full-term pregnancy and childbirth,
and being able to surrogate only once.
However, opinions are still divided on whether Taiwan is suitable for promoting legal surrogacy.
各方質疑從未停止過
The Awakening Foundation believes that
reproductive rights refer to
the freedom to decide whether or not to have children.
But surrogacy involves another person's body,
and should be re-examined.
In international law, there is no such thing as a right
to have a child.
Whether you can have a biological child
should not be the biggest consideration
in the system.
It is also necessary to consider
whether women will be subject to economic or
family pressures and other external factors,
and become surrogate mothers involuntarily.
We must think about the most vulnerable people
or those in the most difficult circumstances
within this cultural context.
What kind of difficulties will they face?
How should our system respond to them?
Instead of saying
that because you have been given information,
everything else is your own choice.
In Europe, many countries are influenced by Christian culture
and traditional ethical concepts.
They hold an opposing stance on surrogacy,
and even use criminal law to prohibit it.
In France, the law stipulates that
all contracts related to surrogacy are invalid.
If someone helps to arrange surrogacy,
it may also constitute a criminal offense.
In Germany, performing artificial insemination on a surrogate mother
or implanting an embryo
may face imprisonment of up to 3 years.
Italy, on the other hand, passed a law in 2004
that prohibits all forms of surrogacy.
禁止一切形式的代孕
In comparison,
California in the United States has an open attitude towards commercial surrogacy.
For example, there are no restrictions on surrogate mother fees,
nor are there restrictions on commissioning parents having to be U.S. citizens.
As soon as the child is born, they can have
legal parent-child relationship with the commissioning parents.
This has also made California in the United States
the top choice for many people seeking surrogacy.
There are also specialized operators
holding information sessions in Taiwan.
Whether it's Australia or the United States,
some research reports have pointed out that
those who become surrogate mothers
are mostly between 20 and 30 years old,
Caucasian,
and many (surrogates) are highly educated.
What we originally expected,
illegal immigrants, exploited people,
that kind of image of someone becoming a surrogate mother,
I think there's quite a difference.
To protect the rights of surrogates,
New York State also passed in 2021
the strictest surrogacy human rights clause in the United States.
Including lawyer consultations, bodily autonomy,
prenatal checkups and insurance are all explicitly protected.
From our legal analysis,
regarding the surrogate mother's
prior consent or
legal protection,
and mental and physical regulations,
there are actually some regulations.
Whether these are comprehensive or not,
I think it's open for discussion.
In terms of regulations,
altruistic surrogacy in the UK and Australia is another option.
The UK did not adopt a contract system when legislating,
but rather a mutual agreement,
where there is no employer-employee relationship between the parties.
The surrogate is the legal mother.
Within six weeks of the child's birth,
she can unconditionally withdraw
and retain greater autonomy.
The commissioning parents also do not have the
right to command and supervise.
It can also give them a better opportunity to be grateful
and feel that
you have really done something
very great for me
and I'm really grateful,
instead of feeling like it's a matter of course.
This is a service I should get because I paid for it.
In 2023, the UK Law Commission
made further reform recommendations,
allowing the commissioning parents to have parental rights after the child is born,
but the surrogate mother still has the opportunity to withdraw
and specifying reasonable pregnancy and childbirth expenses
and the surrogate mother's personal insurance expenses.
Although Taiwan is conceptually altruistic as well,
the main regulation is based on contracts between the two parties.
The UK can move towards
a more convenient approach
because they already have 40 years of experience.
There are now at least four NGOs
that are very experienced and can assist
surrogates and commissioning parents in negotiating.
Overseas experience has shown that
for a surrogacy to be a good experience,
it's not just about having very detailed contracts in the beginning.
If something goes wrong during the process,
whether there are good ways to handle it that can
allow both parties to be on the same boat.
Lily is Taiwanese,
married to an American military husband.
She currently lives in the United States with her husband and two children.
After learning about other people's experiences on online forums,
she proactively contacted an agency wanting to become a surrogate mother.
I can help infertile families
or same-sex families
to have their own children
and complete a family.
It's a very honorable and happy thing,
so I really wanted to do it.
Although Lily also received compensation,
after deducting the costs of pregnancy and childbirth,
she estimates that the money she received
is about $50,000 USD,
which is about the same as her delivery salary in the United States.
It's not just about being exploited as people say.
Or only people from the bottom would do it.
Or as people say, doing it only for the money.
It's not entirely what you think.
That's why some people are willing to do surrogacy.
But this surrogacy journey is not without risks.
Lily experienced severe bleeding during delivery.
It was either a hysterectomy or death,
it was a choice between the two.
Childbirth is inherently risky.
The reason I wasn't so afraid
is actually because
I'm now in a major hospital.
So I trust the medical team very much.
A study by the University of London points out that
most British surrogates and commissioning parents
maintain good relationships.
Even the children know
that they were born through surrogacy.
The two families are more like partners,
making the surrogate's experience more positive.
Even with egg and sperm donation,
many parents
are actually unwilling to let their children know.
In the future, these commissioning couples,
whether they can truly treat
the surrogate as a partner,
will also test Taiwan's
culture of parental rights.
However, Taiwan has already reached the stage of draft discussions.
Whether the current system design
can really protect surrogate mothers
is still insufficient according to the Taiwan LGBT Rights Advocacy Association.
Many women who are currently pregnant
are easily denied insurance.
In this situation,
how can surrogate mothers obtain
the medical insurance coverage they deserve?
This needs to be further considered.
Third, we believe that intermediary agencies,
that is, the units that provide surrogacy matching services,
cannot become the white gloves of medical units.
If a dispute really occurs,
whether Taiwan's Ministry of Health and Welfare can take on
the management responsibility is also a key consideration.
The problems it will face are different from the problems the Health Promotion Administration has encountered in the past.
所遇到的問題不太一樣
The problems will not be caused by medical personnel,
nor are they problems of medical technology
or qualifications,
but rather the minor
relationship issues
that may arise.
Another hypothesis we have is that
we want to protect women, or we want to activate
women's unwise choices or your self-commodification choices.
But is this really valid?
Aren't we improving our status, whether it's gender or gender equality, in Taiwan's education?
And we are organizing personnel through various means, and also through various
educational expertise. Perhaps do we think all of this is empty?
Lily doesn't feel interfered with,
maintaining appropriate contact with the commissioning party in her life,
sharing prenatal checkup status and fetal movements.
She also received from them after childbirth
regular photos and videos of the child.
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Vocabulary Meanings

surrogacy

/ˈsɜːrəɡəsi/

C1
  • noun
  • - the process of a woman giving birth to a baby for another person or couple

legislation

/ˌledʒɪsˈleɪʃn/

B2
  • noun
  • - a law or set of laws passed by a government

controversy

/ˈkɒn.trə.vɜː.si/

C1
  • noun
  • - public disagreement or debate about something important

consultation

/ˌkɒn.sʌlˈteɪ.ʃən/

B2
  • noun
  • - meeting to discuss or seek advice about something

challenge

/ˈtʃæl.ɪndʒ/

B2
  • noun
  • - something difficult that requires effort

protection

/prəˈtɛk.ʃən/

B1
  • noun
  • - the act of keeping someone or something safe

dispute

/dɪˈspjuːt/

B2
  • noun
  • - an argument or disagreement

insurance

/ɪnˈʃʊərəns/

B2
  • noun
  • - arrangement by which one pays for protection against possible loss or damage

dignity

/ˈdɪɡ.nə.ti/

B2
  • noun
  • - the state of having respect and honor

contract

/ˈkɒn.trækt/

B1
  • noun
  • - a written or spoken agreement between people

compensation

/ˌkɒm.penˈseɪ.ʃən/

B2
  • noun
  • - payment given for work, loss, or damage

procedure

/prəˈsiː.dʒə/

B2
  • noun
  • - a series of steps taken to achieve something

experience

/ɪkˈspɪə.ri.əns/

A2
  • noun
  • - knowledge or skill gained by doing something

motivation

/ˌmoʊ.tɪˈveɪ.ʃən/

B2
  • noun
  • - the reason for doing something

risk

/rɪsk/

B1
  • noun
  • - possibility of danger or loss

autonomy

/ɔːˈtɒn.ə.mi/

C1
  • noun
  • - the right or condition of self-government

implement

/ˈɪm.plə.ment/

B2
  • verb
  • - to put something into effect

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Key Grammar Structures

  • 2025年 希臘禁止單身 或男性同志伴侶尋求代孕

    ➔ Present Simple with future time marker

    ➔ The sentence uses the present simple tense ('禁止') with a future time marker ('2025年') to describe a future regulation.

  • 但2024年愛爾蘭也傾向開放代孕

    ➔ Present Simple with 'also' for contrast

    ➔ The sentence uses the present simple tense ('傾向開放') with '也' to contrast with previous information.

  • 我們其實會自問 跟被別人一直問說

    ➔ Present Continuous Passive

    ➔ The sentence uses the present continuous passive ('被別人一直問說') to describe an ongoing action done by others.

  • 這就很像你人生有很多台的列車

    ➔ Simile with '像'

    ➔ The sentence uses a simile ('像') to compare life to multiple trains.

  • 我又不相信這個世界上有另外一個人

    ➔ Present Simple Negative

    ➔ The sentence uses the present simple negative ('不相信') to express disbelief.

  • 你必須要學會去信任

    ➔ Modal Verb 'must'

    ➔ The sentence uses the modal verb '必須' to express necessity.

  • 在歐洲 不少國家受到基督教文化

    ➔ Present Simple Passive

    ➔ The sentence uses the present simple passive ('受到') to describe an action done to the subject.

  • 如果真的發生爭議

    ➔ Conditional Sentence Type 1

    ➔ The sentence uses a conditional structure ('如果...') to describe a possible situation and its consequence.

  • 而不是覺得理所當然

    ➔ Adverbial Clause with '而不是'

    ➔ The sentence uses an adverbial clause ('而不是') to contrast two ideas.

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