Silenced. Silenced. Who's being silenced? The the
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00:04
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00:34
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00:40
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That is I never saw a High School Musical. Uh,
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04:08
I don't know. Where did you draw the
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04:18
All right. It's dope. They knew we were teetering.
04:33
all, we're all overord. You know you want to
be bad. You can fill heaven with rage. Oh my
04:48
singing in these accents is hard. There's
old boring [ __ ] up there. Books, tea,
04:59
elder care. He's actually back in the show
for a second. It's a bit of a rock opera.
05:05
What are you preparing for, Carl? That
was a really fun song. Are you navigating
05:19
the coming? What are you doing? I'm trying to
get Emily's attention. She really didn't give
05:24
you a way to contact her, huh? No, she said she
couldn't. Heaven is closed down or something. So,
05:30
now I just need to get her. You think
she sees it? Why would she see that,
05:36
honey? If it makes you feel better, they look
pretty. Thanks, Vanny. No. No. This would just
05:43
be so much easier with Alistister.
He was supposed to host the hotel,
05:51
not get himself [ __ ] kidnapped. Her intrusive
thoughts are wild. But I have things handled. Is
05:54
there anything I can help you with? I don't
think so, Vaggie. Yeah. Help out Charlie's,
06:00
Vaggie. You know what I'm saying? That's what
I was thinking. So, I just need to keep trying.
06:05
Oh, she's getting neglected. Oh,
I think I know what to do. Oh,
06:15
this is going to be a
vagentric episode. About time.
06:18
Feels like a Christmas episode. Yeah. How was
the group therapy session? I missed it. But Husk
06:25
seems to be enjoying the therapist [ __ ] Says his
pretending to listen skills are put to good use.
06:31
I have never heard someone come up with so
many ways to say stupid. Adding the few to
06:39
my personal dictionary. It's because you're
a moronic unthinking damn fool who was too
06:43
nonsensically doish to realize doish. Good word.
Maybe you should try not being a feeble-minded
06:50
smooth brain for once. Wonder how often therapists
actually want to talk like that. I got to imagine
06:56
all the time. Am I doing therapy right? Where
are you headed? Lucifer must be important.
07:00
Give me the tea later. This is feel like
such a sitcom episode. This is so weird.
07:10
Just a minute. I'll be there. I'll be right.
I wasn't doing anything weird. I swear it. Oh,
07:15
hey. What is it with you and these
ducks? Come in. Just let me just
07:20
Oh, it's kind of worse. Really wasted
no time, huh? Sir, call me daddy. Wait,
07:26
no. Don't call me Lou. What? Now, what is
it you need? Uh, you're the king of hell,
07:31
right? There's a bribe come back, m this one. Have
you been uh listening to him at all? Nope. Well,
07:36
he's been hardcore [ __ ] on Charlie in the hotel
for weeks. It's kind of driving her crazy. Should
07:43
drive you crazy, Dad? You know, you think
you could go over and like, I don't know,
07:48
smite him or something. Oh, Vanastasia. I'll let
you in on Vastasia. It's not bad. It's a It's
07:54
a punishment. And mine is that I'm stuck here
with all these sinners. Can't kill them. Can't
08:02
do nothing with them. So, I just have to ignore
them. Fudge. Vox doesn't know that. Hey, theater
08:07
kids. Merch available now. Most of hell. You're
a pretty big deal. I don't know, man. You got to
08:13
recognize your power. Scallister, but you know,
he's unavailable. So, no, hold on. If my little
08:20
girl is getting harassed by this vox fella, then
it is my time to daddy up. Daddy up. No, don't
08:28
say like that. But great. And what's wrong with
that? I love daddy up. Daddy up. It sounds cool.
08:37
Why would you think Emily could see this? Honey,
Charlie, Sarah, we need to talk to her. She just
08:47
can't get there, but she can see it. Good.
But what good would talking to her do? I
08:53
don't think it's a good idea. You're afraid,
aren't you? Because, you know, we owe Hell a
08:57
massive apology. Yes, you do. Cookies. What
is he doing here? I invited him. I figured if
09:02
anyone can help us make these decisions, it'd be
best to have an actual hell expert. Sure. Yeah.
09:09
Yes. I'm happy to help. He can't be here, Emily.
This is important. Only the highest angels. Well,
09:13
I'm as high as you and I say he stays.
Emily's as high as Sarah, apparently.
09:19
Did not expect that. My vote is that we should
apologize. Maybe with some gift basket. Well,
09:25
I'm sure Charlie would like a gift basket. Look at
Ael. You should throw in a cheese assortment. Oh,
09:30
and a cute little plush bear that says, "Show
me for the violence." That would be so cute.
09:39
Shouting for the violence. I really don't think
this is a good idea. How can the demons accept
09:44
anything we say after what we've done? You
have to start somewhere. It starts with sorry,
09:50
though. I think it's worth a try. I believe
Charlie told him that. Got a gift basket. Look at
09:56
this sad teddy bear. Are you actually here or am
I really dehydrated? Definitely dehydrated. We're
10:04
really here. And we bring sawing. Is Penn okay?
Can I see him? The snake is fine. He misses you
10:13
all. I'm sorry we can't bring him. Thanks, guys. I
appreciate this. She's never got in a basket. It's
10:23
just Vox has completely convinced most of hell
that you all are still out to get us and that
10:29
redemption isn't real and that I'm just some crazy
person. What's a Vox? It's not important. Please,
10:34
I need you to come with me. I heard Vox has
a rally today. A big one. Oh no. Really bad
10:41
call. We're going to need more gift baskets.
This show is not afraid of ruffle feathers,
10:47
man. So, uh, you have the dancers ready? There
it is. What really are you contributing besides
10:53
noise? Oh my god. I'm the face. The face of
the revolution. Where the [ __ ] have you
11:00
been? Revolution. You think they could have pulled
this off without me? It's me who made this happen.
11:09
I have the vision. I have vision. Sure you do.
Oh no. He could tear it down from within. Have
11:14
them turn against each other. How about you and
Velvet manage backstage? No man. You don't want
11:22
us coming out? It's not right away. Don't worry.
You'll have your time. Thanks, babe. My god. See,
11:28
I'm in charge here. Are you? Excuses and lies seem
to still be your specialty. I try. I mean, they're
11:36
in help. Can I just take a moment to say Lilith
would be so proud of Ooh. Come on. Let me hear it.
11:43
I love it. They have no idea Lilith is playing
into their hands. Take on the angel Menace.
11:56
The angels. Yeah. Oh, hell yeah. Daddy up.
12:08
There's about like 80s rock.
12:18
Now I'm here. It's going to be me.
12:23
Dead man. I'm nearly a god. Who
are you? Just a dead man. Quick
12:34
thing though. It's curious you stopped by
to fight me nail and tooth goes into his
12:40
genre of song. And we can make hell
great again. Make hell great again.
12:46
I mean, let's be honest. They know their
audience. Oh, yeah. There's no way. Yeah.
12:57
We got the numbers. We got the thunder.
Let's annex their real estate. Not by
13:03
redemption. By taking over heaven. Tell me
hell. Are you satisfied? No. No. Snipe me.
13:07
Silence me. That's all you angels know
how to do. Remind that he's an angel.
13:14
And figning as the people's voice.
13:27
Hello. They're here to silence me. Oh my
god. Little scared scared little man. We
13:32
are sorry. Oh. Oh, really? You're sorry for what
exactly? Oh, Greg. Everything. For allowing the
13:40
extermination of your people. Oh, just that. And
what do you have here? Sorry packages. Are those
13:48
gift baskets? You are apologizing for genocide
with gift baskets. Oh boy. That's what a sinner's
13:56
soul is worth to heaven. Huh? Oh my god. He's not
wrong there. You are here to flaunt your power
14:06
in front of us because you can't stand that hell
managed to land a pretty damn big hit on you. Oh,
14:14
loot. That's not it at all. We wanted
to apologize. You shouldn't have brought
14:21
loot. No. After everything heaven did to us,
why would any of us forgive you? They're not
14:25
apologizing for forgiveness. They're apologizing
because it's the right thing to do. Oh, wow. A
14:32
lot of negativity here. Charlie should speak.
Taunting us with how little we matter to them.
14:38
Uh, yeah. There's no resolve around the corner
on this one. Do you know how many sinners died
14:46
in each extermination? Thousands. Wow. I didn't
know. No, not the picture. Stop. You got to
14:51
control with rage. First Lucifer threatens us.
Now this. Wait, what? Dad, do not see me. I'm
15:01
not here. You're dreaming. This is a dream. Oh
my god, he is so unreliable. Hell will rise. Hell
15:12
will rise. Say it with me now, Greg.
Hell will rise. But angels could take
15:28
them all out if they need to. Jeez.
This isn't going how we want it at all.
15:34
What do you got, Sarah?
15:41
Whoa. Sinners like you are the reason
I allowed for the extermination in the
15:48
first place. is power- hungry and violent.
Oh no, this angel admits it. She called the
15:53
extermination to silence the sinners speaking
out, empowering each other. You did it to keep
15:58
us down. Damn. Consider this a declaration
of holy war. Oh, there it is. Holy war.
16:03
Wow. Pretty cool. Good rhyme.
16:20
No, no, no. Wait, no.
16:25
Oh my god. You're just there. Oh, hello. By the
look on your face, I'd say the gift baskets were
16:33
a major success. Nope. Nope. Something uh not
chill happened down there. Not chill. I'm sorry.
16:39
I mean, box isn't entirely off. They have
been horrible. I promise things aren't as
16:52
bad as they're making them out to be. Please.
Somebody at some point has to stop war. That's
16:57
the whole point. Dad, I know you're here. Stop
mad, Matt. Oh my god. You threatened box. Sweetie,
17:02
I promise I was just trying to help. Okay, you
see Vav knew over there? Told me you were having
17:11
trouble. What happened? He ruined everything.
No, he didn't. The angels were here to set things
17:15
right. But thanks to him and apparently
you, Fox was able to spin it again. No,
17:22
it would have happened without him. Why didn't
you ask me? Because you aren't listening to me.
17:29
You're hyperfixating on what he's saying about
you. Yeah, the hotel. He is ruining Charlie. You
17:34
are hurting the hotel. Yeah, go Vaggie. If
you don't care about what I'm trying to do,
17:41
then I can just do it myself. Charlie. Oh no. You
want to bury your head in the [ __ ] Be my guest.
17:45
Think about how much more this affects Vagie,
too. Like the whole heaven angle, right? Yeah.
17:54
She's missing an eye. Like, I think you should
leave, Dad. Oh, no. What a flip. You [ __ ] things
17:59
up for me enough. Wow. This is the most irrational
we've seen, Charlie. Okay. Get pushed to the edge.
18:07
Last time she wanted dad, now she's pushing
dad out. Darkest night of the soul. Greg,
18:22
the account holder on this line is
unavailable. Where are you? Might be
18:29
the next episode. They're avoiding you. She must
show up in the next episode. She has to. Yeah.
18:33
The only thing keeping me alive right now is this
hot tea. I'd love to hear it. With her song, she
18:47
rallied the sinners of hell to attack heaven in
an effort to liberate us. What's the deal with him
18:52
and Lilith? I don't know. I merely wish to finish
what she started. Carmela, I have no interest in
18:57
engaging in this war. See, my associate
Velvet here came along today specifically
19:04
to apologize about her childish. I remember
that. You should cut her some slack. You know,
19:09
she's still pretty new to the Overlord Viz. But
that doesn't change things. That was to defend.
19:16
Make no mistake, Carmela. War is coming. You're
either with me or against me. This guy is such
19:23
a good manipulator. You think they won't come for
you? Help me protect hell, Carmela, and I'll help
19:31
you protect them. Wow. I'll build your weapon.
Wow. Emperor Palpatine. You surrendered yourself
19:36
to the media overlord. You know he doth profess
allegiance to hell, but his true alliance lies
19:47
only with himself. Yeah. This is not about sides.
Zestile, you know better than to pay heed to his
19:54
words. Happy she's back. The angels are coming,
Zestil. And I can't. I won't lose anyone else.
20:02
My loyalty is to my own, my girls. You, the
angels really weren't coming. My truest wish is
20:10
that you cometh to thine senses post haste. For
when you do, I shall return to your side. Zest,
20:17
I They had the opportunity for all this war to
end. They had the opportunity for peace. This
20:25
just in. A historic deal has been struck between
Fox Tech and Carmine Industries. What? Oh, come
20:32
on. Oh my god, his outfit. Ryan has no business
screaming like that. I told you, princess. I'm
20:38
done playing therapist. I ain't good at it. Apple
juice. Well, I don't really want to speak to her
20:43
right now. Besides, she's perfectly fine doing
whatever she wants behind my back. Well, Husk,
20:48
if you see Charlie, can you let her know I've been
doing everything around the hotel already? So,
20:55
stop, hus, I'm so [ __ ] done with
this petty high school [ __ ] Yeah,
21:02
I'm out. No, you can't leave. The bar
needs you. Too bad Alistister's gone,
21:07
so I'm gone. What about Angel? Where is Angel?
What about him? He's a grown-up. Doesn't need
21:13
me. Great. Now someone has to take over the bar,
too. [ __ ] my life. It's not just your life,
21:20
honey. She started this resistance to take
back our power by force. She wanted blood. Now,
21:26
let's spill some blood. And he's doing all this
in the name of Lilith. Yeah. I can't believe
21:32
Carmela would side with that lowife garbage. I
have to talk to her. We Come on. We should both
21:38
go. Nifty. I can't believe I'm saying this.
You're in charge. Hooray. Rise, children.
21:46
Ew. [ __ ] Oh no. This place hasn't changed a
bit. Oh no. Don't smile about that. Going to win
21:54
big this time. I can feel it. Lucky seven. Yeah.
This is where I'm meant to be. Nope. You know,
22:03
it's been such a long time since I've
been out on my own. This is our first
22:10
song of the episode. Uh, yeah. It
kind of feels like the wrong time.
22:18
then another and another. Loser baby is still
my favorite franch song in the franchise.
22:31
Really cool animation.
22:40
No, it just got blurry.
22:47
And then the anger kicks in. Oh my god. Wow. That
was that was unreal. That was like a jazz song
22:52
playing exactly to every emotional mood swing.
He was having that was cool. Love in a bomb. I
23:00
don't have time for this lesbian drama. What is
it you want? We should never go to war. Heaven
23:05
doesn't want to hurt us anymore. They know that
there's a better way. How do you know heaven is
23:11
no longer a threat when Vox just declared a war?
They won't just surrender. Why join Vox now? The
23:16
same reason I supplied you all with the weapons
to defend yourselves. When a fight is to come,
23:24
I will protect my own. This is very Middle
Eastcoded. You started this war. Why do you
23:30
still insist on heaven being the answer when
you know firsthand what they are capable of?
23:39
There's so much blame. Yeah. We should
never let ourselves become them. Yeah.
23:44
My mother believes that there is myth
is gone. Her beliefs don't matter. No,
23:50
that's not true. War is coming and
I am choosing the winning side.
23:55
Do you think it's really Angel or is he just
seeing that? No, I'm pretty sure it's Angel.
24:05
This sounds like it could legit be on the
radio. Good luck out there, boys. Wow,
24:32
that was that was hot. Yeah, real hot. Everyone
out. Yikes. What do you want, Fox? I'm already
24:39
struggling to find a co-star that can keep up with
Angel. Well, I may need to borrow Angel Dust for
24:46
a bit. What? I'm not going to wait in the wings
again while you and Angel take center stage. Oh,
24:52
Val, is that jealousy I hear? Has a multitude
of emotions. We got to push the fan favorites
24:59
to the front to get more screen time. It means
nothing in the long run. Just do me this little
25:06
tiny little favor. And you know, my god, Vox
always gets what he wants. I don't see this
25:11
part in the script. Funny how you make time for
us when you need something. Fell it. I was just
25:18
about to fill you in. We were just talking.
Seems more like begging. Good. Valentino,
25:25
you will listen and you will call Angel Dust here
tonight. Whoa. Is it actually working? Get off me.
25:36
You know that freaky eye [ __ ] doesn't work
on me. Whoa. You just do whatever the [ __ ]
25:45
you want anyway. All for your stupid [ __ ]
plan, right? Alistister's causing a wedge.
25:51
Anyone else got [ __ ] to say? I'm from [ __ ]
Florida. Oh, it cracked his glass. Nifty. I told
25:57
you to watch over the hotel. What have you been
doing the whole time? What would you think would
26:04
happen? That's cute. What have you been doing this
whole time? this. Oh, that's kind of impressive,
26:08
actually. Now what? That was great. Are
you okay? I thought about what you said the
26:16
other day. She doesn't look like herself. It's
about me, about my mom, and you were right. So,
26:25
that nugget sat on the icing. Yeah, we cannot
eat that. Mhm. I know it's been hard on you,
26:32
and it's hard sometimes to feel like you aren't
hearing me, but I just want you to know it's okay.
26:38
I still love you. Oh, I got so caught up in all
the drama and my mom. Yes, you did. This hotel
26:43
was my way of finishing what she started. Oh,
what a gentle hug. Right on the stomach. Because
26:50
if I could make it work, maybe she'd be proud
of me. Maybe she'd come back and tell me what
26:55
I did to make her leave. That approval she's
been looking for. And now Fox is declaring a
27:01
war. And Carmela's right. I started it and I'm
a hypocrite of my dreams. You're going to die.
27:06
you're forgetting who we are.
27:40
so cute. That was awesome. That was awesome.
I feel like Harley and Poison Ivy. Hey,
28:04
loser. That's so good. Finally living up to
your name, huh? I didn't know you performed
28:10
here. Loser. Sorry for pushing you into that.
Shouldn't realize it was a It's fine. Huh? I've
28:14
accepted that redemption's not really for
people like me. Are you still mad I saved
28:24
your life? I'm just not worth saving. No,
honey. That's why he was pushing him away
28:30
earlier. See you at the hotel tonight,
Whiskers. No, no, no, you won't. Yeah,
28:35
I will. He's blushing. He got a little crush
on him. I think it's mutual. Change of plans.
28:39
You were bought out for the night in there. Do I
collect for you or or have they paid? I'll do my
28:49
best, Daddy. You want me to come find you or
are you just like really small or something?
28:56
Fox, what are you? Oh, no. Sorry for the sudden
visit. I just need to borrow that empty little
29:10
head of yours. Oh, the hypnosis works on
him. I'd like to see you [ __ ] try. Oh no.
29:17
I've been wanting to do that. Oh no. Oh no.
It's almost cute how you screamed every time.
29:28
How do you think I was always one step ahead
of the princess? What? Think back. Any late
29:37
night jobs you can't quite remember? Oh my
god. I haven't been watching. Oh, you [ __ ]
29:44
Oh, it's so bad. Charlie ain't looking too
good under pressure. We did it. Adopted as
29:55
possible. Vaggie, give me the tea later.
I'll let you in on a little secret. Oh,
30:02
no. I would never. Oh, but you
already did. No. But I think your
30:08
time at the hotel has come to an end.
Oh, that's really sad. Stand up husk.
30:15
Oh, Greg, I'm so upset. No, Greg. He's
always being taken advantage of. Yeah,
30:24
and Husk does show up. I thought about our talk.
30:31
Oh, no. Look who's back. Well,
somebody needs to keep you guys
30:39
drunk. Huh? Hasn't been answering my
texts either. Something ain't right. Oh,
30:44
they're going to team up. We faced impossible odds
before. Together, we can do it again. Thank you
30:51
for keeping the faith that I lost control of.
So cute. Oh, don't. Oh, come on. Don't don't
30:56
Charlie, my lovely daughter, who I
love and miss. What's popping? Dad,
31:06
I need to talk to you. I'll send you my
location. Okay. That doesn't sound like
31:11
her. No, it doesn't. Uh, oh, no. Looks
like we got our power. That was him.
31:16
The [ __ ] What the [ __ ] was that,
Lilith? Screaming. Oh, the screaming rain.
31:27
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we just watched
the episode five and six of what show of Hasbin
31:36
Hotel, baby. Of Hasbin Hotel. Greg knew all
that information. He was just quizzing me. Oh,
31:44
look at the background of this. Is an apple and a
serpent also. Do you see it? That's pretty cool.
31:49
The start of Lucy Lucy. What? Start of Lucy Lucy.
Lucifer. Oh, and I don't know what or Adam start
31:54
of Lucy Lucy. Yes. Yes. Or in this context, Adam
and Lilith actually. Yeah. Yes. Oh, Lucy Lucy. Uh,
32:06
did you have a favorite song here? Um, let's
see. I know I did. Which one was it that we
32:14
were fre Oh, the Charlie the Vaggie song. Yeah,
the great one. Um, yeah, the of the the duet,
32:21
but mostly Vaggie. So good. How about you? I would
probably opt for that one. And then probably the
32:29
Hus song. We opened with a really cool song in
episode five, too. Yeah, it was a really good
32:41
one with everybody. That was cool. Establishing
the grounds of where Vox was currently at. So,
32:48
uh, how are you feeling about this show? I mean,
we were expressing a little bit of concerns last
32:54
week. last week when we were here filming last
week, right? How are you feeling now with what
32:59
the progress is of these next two episodes? I much
preferred five and six to three and four. But that
33:04
being said, we only have two episodes left and I'm
feeling I'm feeling that the clock ticking. Like,
33:11
wow, we still have so much to do because what we
didn't really address in five and six was a lot
33:17
of heaven stuff. Like we we haven't moved forward.
Well, I it depends on where the season's going to
33:22
end, right? like we now have declared a full-blown
war and we have two episodes to deal with that
33:27
theoretically. So, uh I'm so glad we got to see
more of Vaggie and Charlie together. I'm happy
33:34
that um Vox is like really this huge huge threat.
I think there's a lot of parallels obviously
33:41
they literally say make hell great again. Um
there's a lot of parallels between this war and
33:48
um current wars and there's a lot of parallels
between uh the divide in the United States right
33:56
now. So I think that this show is taking big
swings. I'm really enjoying it and also I'm
34:03
still a little nervous about us only having two
episodes. How about you? I think it's did a lot
34:09
of heavy lifting over a lot of the concerns that
we were having. Like I I like everything they're
34:14
doing with Vox way more this time around. I still
feel like he's defeatable in some way, you know,
34:19
like he doesn't he hasn't reached this point yet
where it's like how do you take this guy down?
34:25
How is he undefeable? And you know what they're
commenting, what they're using it as a as a as
34:31
a political tapestry of, I think is pretty cool
because even though it's very relevant to today,
34:37
you could watch this show like 10 20 years
from now and you don't even need like today's
34:44
context to understand it, you know. Well,
history tends to repeat itself. So that's
34:48
true. Yeah. Like what's going on today is not
exactly u a first time of it all. So yeah,
34:54
watching him use like media manipulation, the
propaganda, weaponizing rage, acting like he's
35:01
one of the people while also disrespecting
current law and order and leadership.
35:08
It's a neat way to draw it and it's a cool way to
see how he rises in strength and the minations how
35:16
it's all formed where the heaven wanting to have
resolution and them cuz I even found myself like
35:20
here with you going well you know who's not wrong
about that like why would they forgive and then
35:28
you said that well the fighting has to stop at
some point and I was like oh yeah that's right
35:33
they don't want to fight anymore and I was already
I was caught up in the speech of well [ __ ]
35:38
man yeah Evan's got done them wrong they should
probably go kill But I I think that's the whole
35:42
point of why like I I love that they're addressing
this because when in life we go tit for tat. It's
35:46
not tit for tat. It's tit for tat and then tit t
t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t tat t t t t
35:54
t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t
t t t t t t t t t t t tat t t t t t t t t t t t
35:58
t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t
t t t t tat, like and I think that ob obviously
35:59
like not to make it too crazy political, but um
we have seen that in a lot of different places,
36:03
but especially with what's gone on in the last
hundred years, thousands of years, and especially
36:08
in the last two years in the Middle East, I think
that there's been a lot of commentary about who
36:14
started something and then also commentary about
what the United States placed is in helping. And
36:19
I kind of felt like Carmela felt like a little bit
like US coded here because while she's supplying
36:26
weapons for the people of hell, she's doing it
because she thinks it's the right thing to do
36:33
to protect her family, right? And and it's easy to
get caught up us looking at this being like, "No,
36:39
uh, heaven really effed over hell. They It was
a fullblown genocide. We see thousands of people
36:47
every year dying. That's what they were doing
every year. It's easy for us to be like, "Yeah,
36:54
we want vengeance." It's hard to be like, "And
when does the killing stop?" Yeah. And that's
36:59
what we all have to ask ourselves, like, how do
we, if you really are somebody who wants peace,
37:05
are you willing to let go of the past in order
to move forward towards peace? And I yeah,
37:13
I just I I was really moved by that storyline in
this because I like you, Greg. It's we now we've
37:18
lived in hell for a long time. So, we love these
people and we're like, you guys totally effed
37:25
us? Yeah. Um but at the same time, so what are we
going to do? Fight a war with heaven so that then
37:29
they can kill us more and we can kill them more
and us as in hell. Yeah. I just I I think that
37:34
that's it's an interesting way to tackle bigger
issues and and it's an allegory for a lot of other
37:40
wars throughout history, of course, because a lot
of wars are centered around the same thing. Yeah.
37:46
Um but that just it spoke to me in this particular
time period, even though it also speaks to a lot
37:51
of other things. Yeah. The commentary is pretty
strong and timely. Yeah. Yeah, I guess this comes
37:56
down to what how's the the uh immediate writing of
the characters going there because I like pulling
38:03
back and looking at all that. And like to me, as
much as like the commentary is strong in the first
38:11
season, it's more characters and I find myself
thinking more about what they're talking about
38:18
more than I am the actual character experiences
this time. Does that make sense? Yeah. Tell me
38:22
more what you mean. Like what kind of um moments
are you thinking more about than the character
38:26
experiences? It's like you care more about the
theme than you do about the individuals. Yeah.
38:31
I mean, yeah. I find that like when we're having
the most exciting conversations or our takeaways,
38:35
we're it's often associated more with like what
the show was talking about versus, you know,
38:40
like watching like Lucifer come into the equation
in the first season or Angel's struggle as a as an
38:49
addict and dealing with the sexual abuse in his
life. And do you find that to be a good a good
38:56
thing that we care more about plot than people or
bad? It's I don't know if it's good or bad. I mean
39:02
it's it's like it's interesting like the character
stuff is still there like there like the song
39:09
that's what makes the songs good you know like
the song with Vaggie and Charlie is really strong
39:14
because it it it is about them as you know how
she how Vaggie was able to honor the principles
39:19
and the faith system that Charlie lost sight of
and because this whole time she's been wanting the
39:27
approval of her mom and try to get her mom back.
That was a really strong moment. Yeah, it was. It
39:34
was a beautiful moment because we I I said early
in the episode I was like, she's annoying the piss
39:40
out of me. And Yeah. And it's because what And I
I like that they justified that this is a bigger
39:45
deal for Charlie. Like I I think last week you
said, "Why is Charlie caring so much about this
39:52
redemption thing now that we know what heaven is?"
Yeah. And there is something bigger going on here,
39:57
which is like she's trying to finish what her she
believes her mom wants and and started and what
40:03
would make her mom proud. And she's not doing
that because her mom's gone. She's doing that
40:07
in hopes that her mom loves her again. Yeah. Yeah.
That was like I remember we're speaking about how
40:11
she really wants validation. And that's why she's
going to these like extreme lengths to change the
40:16
narrative and that carries over from season one.
So I think it's still strong. How do you feel
40:21
about the husk stuff and angel dust? It's good
stuff. Good stuff. Do you like it? Do you like it?
40:28
Yeah. Yeah. I was I was happy. I mean, you called
this first you and pretty quickly that it's it was
40:35
Angel's turn to pull Husk out. Yeah. And it seems
like in that one moment he does. And yet now Angel
40:43
is under this spell. And so Husk's gonna have to
pull Angel out yet again because we see Husk's
40:51
like, "Something's wrong." Well, they'll probably
have to physically save him. Yeah. And then they
40:57
can profess their love for one another. You think
that's where we're going? I never quite picked up
41:01
on love between them in terms of romantic. Oh,
really? Until this episode. Then it was like,
41:08
"Okay, I guess he I wasn't sure is more accurate."
And when he started blushing is when I started to
41:15
wonder like, okay, I guess maybe it is actually
that. I feel like we got that in episode four of
41:22
season one. Um, but yes, I'm with you that we it
hasn't been a consistent through line where it's
41:28
been like, oh, clearly they're pining after each
other. Yeah, I thought they were just friends,
41:34
but this is the world of Hasbin Hotel where every
gay guy wants to sleep with every other gay guy.
41:37
That one line, am I gay? When Angel does comes
out, in hell, who cares? Everyone's gay here
41:43
apparently. Yeah. Um the Nifty stuff is so funny.
I don't understand why these characters keep
41:48
trusting Nifty. Like what is that character? She's
she's a little bit more cohesive than last season,
41:55
but she's, you know, she's doing her thing.
Ridiculous. Alistister. It's weird what they've
42:03
done with Alistister and Angel Dust because I
don't know about you. Did you feel like Angel
42:08
Dust was not really as much of a presence so far
before before this? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Like he had
42:12
that one episode about him. Totally. And then
here I thought it was kind of clever to actually
42:19
not make him as much of a presence. That way we
didn't pick up on any of this manipulation of
42:24
the hypnosis technique that Box was doing on him
cuz we did see those text messages, but I didn't
42:29
read them quickly and didn't know what they were
about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I remember there
42:35
was like one point like a [ __ ] ton of messages
to I didn't know what that was about either. But
42:38
if they were focusing more on Angel Dust, I don't
know if it would have made him more suspect, but
42:43
I thought that was kind of clever to like remove
him away from the equation. That way, you're not
42:48
suspecting it. And I kind of feel like they're
doing something similar with Alistar where he's
42:52
intentionally weaving this tapestry of everyone
turning on against each other at amongst the V's.
42:56
And so, if we're not fully paying attention to
Alistar, we're not going to 100% be mining what's
43:03
going on there. We saw him completely manipulate
Vox when he's like take the stage alone basically
43:08
and convinces him to do that. And then when um
Velvet turns her chair and she's been sitting
43:14
next to Alistister. It's very clear to me that
before Vox walked in, Alistister very clearly was
43:20
talking to Velvet and to um Val. Yeah. And he's
he's planting more seeds of doubt in their minds
43:28
because they immediately are doubting more than
they ever have. So, I'm with you. And I I think
43:35
we'll see a little bit more of that. How much do
you want the last two episodes to focus on Lily
43:39
and Sarah and Abel and what's going on there? And
how much do you want it to feature Lilith, like
43:46
the the the bigger part of this versus how much do
you want it to feature what's going on on in hell?
43:55
Whoa. Uh, I'm asking I would say I would prefer I
would prefer if they finally brought Lilith then.
44:04
I think they've been dangling this carrot for a
little too long and I don't even know that's the
44:11
right phrase. No. Yeah, that was right. Dangling
the carrot. Yeah. Who Who do you Who am I supposed
44:17
to be? What's a horse? Is that how that what
people do? They dangle carrots to their horses
44:23
to make the horse run. Really? You used the right
conclusion. I just don't know what the I started
44:28
questioning like who do you Wait, what was the
original intention of the dangling of the carrot?
44:35
Yeah, for a horse. Really? Is that where it comes
from? Oh, I didn't know that. I mean, I'm 99%
44:40
sure. Well, we have to know. We cannot proceed.
What's crazy about it is that you used it. I
44:44
know. And I question whether or not yourself.
Okay. I had the metaphor down or simile. Oh god,
44:50
what a difference. Offering someone incentive like
a reward to do something. Um, the idea of leading
44:57
a donkey by holding a carrot. Donkey. I thought
it was a horse. No. Yeah, you were way wrong. I
45:02
still think it's a horse. Donkeys and horses are
two very different animals. Okay. Well, now what's
45:07
the difference between a metaphor and a simile?
A simile is like, and a metaphor isn't like. Oh,
45:13
okay. So, I lost my original point. Uh, what are
you hoping for? They dangling the carrot of Lilith
45:19
for too long. And I agree. Yeah. Yeah, they've
been tangling that and I agree. And I I want more
45:27
Lilith. And I agree. I agree with that because I
think they were building up for this whole moment
45:33
of her explosion of her character Charlie to do
all that. But I'm like I I kind of feel like we've
45:38
been through a lot of this already with Charlie
to a certain extent in in season one already.
45:44
like we already that there was already a big
acknowledgement in season one that she's was
45:49
really doing this because she obvious they kept
calling her out that she wants validation and
45:53
approval and her dad shows up. So like I kind of
feel like we went through a good amount of this
45:57
already. Speaking of her dad, what do you think
about them call? What do you think the situation
46:02
is here with them calling Lucifer? Yeah. What
they say like we have our power source now they
46:07
said because he's an actual he's an actual
angel too. Lucifer. Yeah. but about Lucifer,
46:13
but also about Angel that they had there in uh
what what is your question exactly? What do you
46:21
think their game plan is about calling Lucifer
over? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, at the end,
46:28
can you like strip I don't know. Angel Juice. I've
watched the show. You haven't seen Supernatural,
46:35
have you? No, only a little. Okay. Okay. Well,
they're like they have angels in the show and
46:42
sometimes you have to like take the angel's ju guu
from them and I'm wondering if that's what they do
46:46
because they want to get to heaven. Well, the way
to take down the angels is only with angel killer
46:55
is is with the weapons the angels have already
crafted. So maybe in some way to arm themselves
47:01
to get into he or like where you're saying to
pierce the veil of heaven's gates, you need
47:07
some type of angel guju. They're using Carmen to
make the weapons right now because she has Yeah.
47:11
The weapons of mass destruction. Okay. Which is
a carrot when you dangle it, right? A carrot,
47:18
which is a metaphor, not a simile. Yes. Simil this
is like Oh, fascinating. Well, what are you hoping
47:24
for in the finale of this? Are you okay with the
lack of Lilith that we've had? How are you feeling
47:36
about Charlie's arc? Let's start right there.
How are you feeling about where Charlie's at with
47:41
this? She's not particularly like my favorite this
season. Well, I like that we finally get to she's
47:46
doing this to impress her mom. But I agree, she's
not my favorite this season either. I think even
47:52
last season I like Vaggie best, though, and I do
love Vagy. Vagy and Angel really both speak to me.
47:56
Um, but in in terms of answering your first
question and kind of having that tie in here,
48:03
I feel like we might not get Lilith for this
season. Well, that would suck. That they'd be
48:10
doing that thing that I said they'd be doing.
Thank the car about the season two like not
48:15
completing their narrative. Yeah. And I I mean,
Lucifer came in kind of late in in season one.
48:20
He came in like a one episode in the middle,
then he came in very late again in the finale.
48:25
But I'm right that we have two more episodes.
Yeah, I believe so. Okay. Because yeah, I mean,
48:29
we're referencing her a lot. And, you know, I I do
also think it's very interesting Vox keeps being
48:35
like this is what Lilith would want. It's like
kind of reminding me of um MLK Jr. for a little
48:39
bit where people constantly are like this is like
posting this is the MLK quote on this and on this
48:44
and it's like you're completely misinterpreting
his words here and uh you don't you didn't know
48:52
him and there's I think taken out of context
everything is different and him using her as the
48:56
north star just I wonder if they think it's enough
that we keep referencing her and she is a huge
49:05
deal in season 3. Well, that's religion, though.
That's like that's how that's how you have like
49:12
so many different denominations of Christianity.
You're 100% from like a billion people being like,
49:19
"Well, actually, here's what this part of
the Bible means." And then some guy shows up,
49:23
he's like, "You know, I got a third Bible now."
You know, so that's what they they're doing with
49:27
little words. That's totally right. And in
that comparison, then Charlie is Jesus. And
49:31
Jesus is like, "No, this is what my parent
actually thinks." And nobody's listening.
49:37
You get what I'm saying? Yeah. Is that a That's
a metaphor. Analogy. What's an analogy? Um,
49:44
analogies. An analogy. I know an analogy when
it's used, but I don't know how to describe.
49:51
Analogy would be what I just did. Like that is as
if it was MLK. Like you're Yes. But how what is
50:00
the clear delineation then between a metaphor and
an analogy? Metaphor is metaphorical language. Um,
50:06
as metaphor is a metaphor as opposed to a specific
example like that. Metaphor could be uh dangling
50:15
a carrot. Got it. But if you use like then is
that an expression? It is. Oh god. How are we
50:22
supposed to sell a screenplay when we can't tell
you the difference between an expression and now?
50:31
I can tell you what anamonop is. metaphor. Yeah.
And let's make sure we got all our bases covered
50:37
because we're not really going to talk too much
about it. And then Vagie having a very empowering
50:45
song was really cool. That was the sexiest they've
ever been because they were definitely doing it
50:49
and they did it through the art of dance. They
are so similar. Do you watch Harley Quinn the
50:54
animated series? I've only seen the first season.
Okay. So, you're not not that I've seen the first
51:00
two seasons. No. Yeah. Whichever one is the one
that ends up with them driving off. Thi this is
51:04
so Harley and Poison Ivy. Yeah. So so I mean I
know the characters well enough to understand.
51:09
Right. Of of course. Of course. But just I mean
specifically in the animated show this is that
51:14
it's their dynamic. Yeah. Which is I which I
love. It's that's my favorite animated show.
51:20
So I wonder if this is all going to end some giant
conversation like we're going to be on the brink
51:24
of war and then Lilith shows up to clear the air
because you're right. But we haven't gone to the
51:29
heaven spot to see what their POV is after all
this uh hell backlashes that they've received.
51:35
And that's like a star falling from the sky.
Yes. Good. That's an analogy, isn't it? No.
51:44
This is complicated. Move like water. Bruce Lee.
Yeah. Be like water. Um, but yeah. Do you have any
51:57
final strain thoughts that are lingering in the
air here? I love this world. Um, super glad that
52:06
we're doing this and I'm looking forward to the
next two and I hope they don't disappoint. Yeah,
52:11
I feel so bad for Angel, man. That was [ __ ]
heartbre. Yeah. No, it was easy to understand.
52:16
You just Yeah, I feel so bad for Angel. This is
so heartbreaking. He's just tossed around so much.
52:21
And I could hear myself clearly. No, I I got
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52:29
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53:39