[English]
Silenced. Silenced. Who's being silenced? The the
woke mob. Uh, you know, something like that. What
up, citizens of the Reject Nation? Last week,
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this week? I am feeling you made me feel like
I should be cautiously optimistic. About what?
About this. Okay. Oh, you made my feeling good
in life. Yeah. Life. Yeah, I thought you meant
about where we were at. Yeah, I'm feeling
good. By the time you guys see this, I'll
have a movie that's coming out on November 25th.
It's called Wildat. It is. I just made Greg watch
the trailer. It's inspired by the basketball team
from High School Musical. Yeah. Dribble, dribble,
shoot, shoot. Take it to the hoop hoop. Yep.
That is I never saw a High School Musical. Uh,
it shows. Is it about basketball? Uh, it's partly
Troy. He He's torn between basketball and singing.
And which way should he go? Not to hell because
then he would have to meet the has been people.
Greg, how are you? I'm feeling terrible about the
show but great about life. Wait, no. Flip that.
I feel fine. I feel fine. That was a really,
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going to silence them? How would I silence them?
I pay them. Hate them to shut their mouths. Oh,
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So this is bento box. Is this
considered anime? It's bento anime. No,
I don't know. Where did you draw the
correlation? Because bento boxes are
usually Japanese. You might be right. This
does feel a little anime. I have no idea.
Okay.
All right. It's dope. They knew we were teetering.
After
all, we're all overord. You know you want to
be bad. You can fill heaven with rage. Oh my
singing in these accents is hard. There's
old boring [ __ ] up there. Books, tea,
elder care. He's actually back in the show
for a second. It's a bit of a rock opera.
Stop it. Okay.
What are you preparing for, Carl? That
was a really fun song. Are you navigating
the coming? What are you doing? I'm trying to
get Emily's attention. She really didn't give
you a way to contact her, huh? No, she said she
couldn't. Heaven is closed down or something. So,
now I just need to get her. You think
she sees it? Why would she see that,
honey? If it makes you feel better, they look
pretty. Thanks, Vanny. No. No. This would just
be so much easier with Alistister.
He was supposed to host the hotel,
not get himself [ __ ] kidnapped. Her intrusive
thoughts are wild. But I have things handled. Is
there anything I can help you with? I don't
think so, Vaggie. Yeah. Help out Charlie's,
Vaggie. You know what I'm saying? That's what
I was thinking. So, I just need to keep trying.
Oh, she's getting neglected. Oh,
I think I know what to do. Oh,
this is going to be a
vagentric episode. About time.
Feels like a Christmas episode. Yeah. How was
the group therapy session? I missed it. But Husk
seems to be enjoying the therapist [ __ ] Says his
pretending to listen skills are put to good use.
I have never heard someone come up with so
many ways to say stupid. Adding the few to
my personal dictionary. It's because you're
a moronic unthinking damn fool who was too
nonsensically doish to realize doish. Good word.
Maybe you should try not being a feeble-minded
smooth brain for once. Wonder how often therapists
actually want to talk like that. I got to imagine
all the time. Am I doing therapy right? Where
are you headed? Lucifer must be important.
Give me the tea later. This is feel like
such a sitcom episode. This is so weird.
Just a minute. I'll be there. I'll be right.
I wasn't doing anything weird. I swear it. Oh,
hey. What is it with you and these
ducks? Come in. Just let me just
Oh, it's kind of worse. Really wasted
no time, huh? Sir, call me daddy. Wait,
no. Don't call me Lou. What? Now, what is
it you need? Uh, you're the king of hell,
right? There's a bribe come back, m this one. Have
you been uh listening to him at all? Nope. Well,
he's been hardcore [ __ ] on Charlie in the hotel
for weeks. It's kind of driving her crazy. Should
drive you crazy, Dad? You know, you think
you could go over and like, I don't know,
smite him or something. Oh, Vanastasia. I'll let
you in on Vastasia. It's not bad. It's a It's
a punishment. And mine is that I'm stuck here
with all these sinners. Can't kill them. Can't
do nothing with them. So, I just have to ignore
them. Fudge. Vox doesn't know that. Hey, theater
kids. Merch available now. Most of hell. You're
a pretty big deal. I don't know, man. You got to
recognize your power. Scallister, but you know,
he's unavailable. So, no, hold on. If my little
girl is getting harassed by this vox fella, then
it is my time to daddy up. Daddy up. No, don't
say like that. But great. And what's wrong with
that? I love daddy up. Daddy up. It sounds cool.
Why would you think Emily could see this? Honey,
Charlie, Sarah, we need to talk to her. She just
can't get there, but she can see it. Good.
But what good would talking to her do? I
don't think it's a good idea. You're afraid,
aren't you? Because, you know, we owe Hell a
massive apology. Yes, you do. Cookies. What
is he doing here? I invited him. I figured if
anyone can help us make these decisions, it'd be
best to have an actual hell expert. Sure. Yeah.
Yes. I'm happy to help. He can't be here, Emily.
This is important. Only the highest angels. Well,
I'm as high as you and I say he stays.
Emily's as high as Sarah, apparently.
Did not expect that. My vote is that we should
apologize. Maybe with some gift basket. Well,
I'm sure Charlie would like a gift basket. Look at
Ael. You should throw in a cheese assortment. Oh,
and a cute little plush bear that says, "Show
me for the violence." That would be so cute.
Shouting for the violence. I really don't think
this is a good idea. How can the demons accept
anything we say after what we've done? You
have to start somewhere. It starts with sorry,
though. I think it's worth a try. I believe
Charlie told him that. Got a gift basket. Look at
this sad teddy bear. Are you actually here or am
I really dehydrated? Definitely dehydrated. We're
really here. And we bring sawing. Is Penn okay?
Can I see him? The snake is fine. He misses you
all. I'm sorry we can't bring him. Thanks, guys. I
appreciate this. She's never got in a basket. It's
just Vox has completely convinced most of hell
that you all are still out to get us and that
redemption isn't real and that I'm just some crazy
person. What's a Vox? It's not important. Please,
I need you to come with me. I heard Vox has
a rally today. A big one. Oh no. Really bad
call. We're going to need more gift baskets.
This show is not afraid of ruffle feathers,
man. So, uh, you have the dancers ready? There
it is. What really are you contributing besides
noise? Oh my god. I'm the face. The face of
the revolution. Where the [ __ ] have you
been? Revolution. You think they could have pulled
this off without me? It's me who made this happen.
I have the vision. I have vision. Sure you do.
Oh no. He could tear it down from within. Have
them turn against each other. How about you and
Velvet manage backstage? No man. You don't want
us coming out? It's not right away. Don't worry.
You'll have your time. Thanks, babe. My god. See,
I'm in charge here. Are you? Excuses and lies seem
to still be your specialty. I try. I mean, they're
in help. Can I just take a moment to say Lilith
would be so proud of Ooh. Come on. Let me hear it.
I love it. They have no idea Lilith is playing
into their hands. Take on the angel Menace.
The angels. Yeah. Oh, hell yeah. Daddy up.
There's about like 80s rock.
Now I'm here. It's going to be me.
Yeah.
Dead man. I'm nearly a god. Who
are you? Just a dead man. Quick
thing though. It's curious you stopped by
to fight me nail and tooth goes into his
genre of song. And we can make hell
great again. Make hell great again.
I mean, let's be honest. They know their
audience. Oh, yeah. There's no way. Yeah.
We got the numbers. We got the thunder.
Let's annex their real estate. Not by
redemption. By taking over heaven. Tell me
hell. Are you satisfied? No. No. Snipe me.
Silence me. That's all you angels know
how to do. Remind that he's an angel.
And figning as the people's voice.
Hello. They're here to silence me. Oh my
god. Little scared scared little man. We
are sorry. Oh. Oh, really? You're sorry for what
exactly? Oh, Greg. Everything. For allowing the
extermination of your people. Oh, just that. And
what do you have here? Sorry packages. Are those
gift baskets? You are apologizing for genocide
with gift baskets. Oh boy. That's what a sinner's
soul is worth to heaven. Huh? Oh my god. He's not
wrong there. You are here to flaunt your power
in front of us because you can't stand that hell
managed to land a pretty damn big hit on you. Oh,
loot. That's not it at all. We wanted
to apologize. You shouldn't have brought
loot. No. After everything heaven did to us,
why would any of us forgive you? They're not
apologizing for forgiveness. They're apologizing
because it's the right thing to do. Oh, wow. A
lot of negativity here. Charlie should speak.
Taunting us with how little we matter to them.
Uh, yeah. There's no resolve around the corner
on this one. Do you know how many sinners died
in each extermination? Thousands. Wow. I didn't
know. No, not the picture. Stop. You got to
control with rage. First Lucifer threatens us.
Now this. Wait, what? Dad, do not see me. I'm
not here. You're dreaming. This is a dream. Oh
my god, he is so unreliable. Hell will rise. Hell
will rise. Say it with me now, Greg.
Hell will rise. But angels could take
them all out if they need to. Jeez.
This isn't going how we want it at all.
What do you got, Sarah?
Whoa. Sinners like you are the reason
I allowed for the extermination in the
first place. is power- hungry and violent.
Oh no, this angel admits it. She called the
extermination to silence the sinners speaking
out, empowering each other. You did it to keep
us down. Damn. Consider this a declaration
of holy war. Oh, there it is. Holy war.
Wow. Pretty cool. Good rhyme.
No, no, no. Wait, no.
Oh my god. You're just there. Oh, hello. By the
look on your face, I'd say the gift baskets were
a major success. Nope. Nope. Something uh not
chill happened down there. Not chill. I'm sorry.
I mean, box isn't entirely off. They have
been horrible. I promise things aren't as
bad as they're making them out to be. Please.
Somebody at some point has to stop war. That's
the whole point. Dad, I know you're here. Stop
mad, Matt. Oh my god. You threatened box. Sweetie,
I promise I was just trying to help. Okay, you
see Vav knew over there? Told me you were having
trouble. What happened? He ruined everything.
No, he didn't. The angels were here to set things
right. But thanks to him and apparently
you, Fox was able to spin it again. No,
it would have happened without him. Why didn't
you ask me? Because you aren't listening to me.
You're hyperfixating on what he's saying about
you. Yeah, the hotel. He is ruining Charlie. You
are hurting the hotel. Yeah, go Vaggie. If
you don't care about what I'm trying to do,
then I can just do it myself. Charlie. Oh no. You
want to bury your head in the [ __ ] Be my guest.
Think about how much more this affects Vagie,
too. Like the whole heaven angle, right? Yeah.
She's missing an eye. Like, I think you should
leave, Dad. Oh, no. What a flip. You [ __ ] things
up for me enough. Wow. This is the most irrational
we've seen, Charlie. Okay. Get pushed to the edge.
Last time she wanted dad, now she's pushing
dad out. Darkest night of the soul. Greg,
the account holder on this line is
unavailable. Where are you? Might be
the next episode. They're avoiding you. She must
show up in the next episode. She has to. Yeah.
The only thing keeping me alive right now is this
hot tea. I'd love to hear it. With her song, she
rallied the sinners of hell to attack heaven in
an effort to liberate us. What's the deal with him
and Lilith? I don't know. I merely wish to finish
what she started. Carmela, I have no interest in
engaging in this war. See, my associate
Velvet here came along today specifically
to apologize about her childish. I remember
that. You should cut her some slack. You know,
she's still pretty new to the Overlord Viz. But
that doesn't change things. That was to defend.
Make no mistake, Carmela. War is coming. You're
either with me or against me. This guy is such
a good manipulator. You think they won't come for
you? Help me protect hell, Carmela, and I'll help
you protect them. Wow. I'll build your weapon.
Wow. Emperor Palpatine. You surrendered yourself
to the media overlord. You know he doth profess
allegiance to hell, but his true alliance lies
only with himself. Yeah. This is not about sides.
Zestile, you know better than to pay heed to his
words. Happy she's back. The angels are coming,
Zestil. And I can't. I won't lose anyone else.
My loyalty is to my own, my girls. You, the
angels really weren't coming. My truest wish is
that you cometh to thine senses post haste. For
when you do, I shall return to your side. Zest,
I They had the opportunity for all this war to
end. They had the opportunity for peace. This
just in. A historic deal has been struck between
Fox Tech and Carmine Industries. What? Oh, come
on. Oh my god, his outfit. Ryan has no business
screaming like that. I told you, princess. I'm
done playing therapist. I ain't good at it. Apple
juice. Well, I don't really want to speak to her
right now. Besides, she's perfectly fine doing
whatever she wants behind my back. Well, Husk,
if you see Charlie, can you let her know I've been
doing everything around the hotel already? So,
stop, hus, I'm so [ __ ] done with
this petty high school [ __ ] Yeah,
I'm out. No, you can't leave. The bar
needs you. Too bad Alistister's gone,
so I'm gone. What about Angel? Where is Angel?
What about him? He's a grown-up. Doesn't need
me. Great. Now someone has to take over the bar,
too. [ __ ] my life. It's not just your life,
honey. She started this resistance to take
back our power by force. She wanted blood. Now,
let's spill some blood. And he's doing all this
in the name of Lilith. Yeah. I can't believe
Carmela would side with that lowife garbage. I
have to talk to her. We Come on. We should both
go. Nifty. I can't believe I'm saying this.
You're in charge. Hooray. Rise, children.
Ew. [ __ ] Oh no. This place hasn't changed a
bit. Oh no. Don't smile about that. Going to win
big this time. I can feel it. Lucky seven. Yeah.
This is where I'm meant to be. Nope. You know,
it's been such a long time since I've
been out on my own. This is our first
song of the episode. Uh, yeah. It
kind of feels like the wrong time.
Loser Baby,
then another and another. Loser baby is still
my favorite franch song in the franchise.
Really cool animation.
No, it just got blurry.
And then the anger kicks in. Oh my god. Wow. That
was that was unreal. That was like a jazz song
playing exactly to every emotional mood swing.
He was having that was cool. Love in a bomb. I
don't have time for this lesbian drama. What is
it you want? We should never go to war. Heaven
doesn't want to hurt us anymore. They know that
there's a better way. How do you know heaven is
no longer a threat when Vox just declared a war?
They won't just surrender. Why join Vox now? The
same reason I supplied you all with the weapons
to defend yourselves. When a fight is to come,
I will protect my own. This is very Middle
Eastcoded. You started this war. Why do you
still insist on heaven being the answer when
you know firsthand what they are capable of?
There's so much blame. Yeah. We should
never let ourselves become them. Yeah.
My mother believes that there is myth
is gone. Her beliefs don't matter. No,
that's not true. War is coming and
I am choosing the winning side.
Do you think it's really Angel or is he just
seeing that? No, I'm pretty sure it's Angel.
This sounds like it could legit be on the
radio. Good luck out there, boys. Wow,
that was that was hot. Yeah, real hot. Everyone
out. Yikes. What do you want, Fox? I'm already
struggling to find a co-star that can keep up with
Angel. Well, I may need to borrow Angel Dust for
a bit. What? I'm not going to wait in the wings
again while you and Angel take center stage. Oh,
Val, is that jealousy I hear? Has a multitude
of emotions. We got to push the fan favorites
to the front to get more screen time. It means
nothing in the long run. Just do me this little
tiny little favor. And you know, my god, Vox
always gets what he wants. I don't see this
part in the script. Funny how you make time for
us when you need something. Fell it. I was just
about to fill you in. We were just talking.
Seems more like begging. Good. Valentino,
you will listen and you will call Angel Dust here
tonight. Whoa. Is it actually working? Get off me.
You know that freaky eye [ __ ] doesn't work
on me. Whoa. You just do whatever the [ __ ]
you want anyway. All for your stupid [ __ ]
plan, right? Alistister's causing a wedge.
Anyone else got [ __ ] to say? I'm from [ __ ]
Florida. Oh, it cracked his glass. Nifty. I told
you to watch over the hotel. What have you been
doing the whole time? What would you think would
happen? That's cute. What have you been doing this
whole time? this. Oh, that's kind of impressive,
actually. Now what? That was great. Are
you okay? I thought about what you said the
other day. She doesn't look like herself. It's
about me, about my mom, and you were right. So,
that nugget sat on the icing. Yeah, we cannot
eat that. Mhm. I know it's been hard on you,
and it's hard sometimes to feel like you aren't
hearing me, but I just want you to know it's okay.
I still love you. Oh, I got so caught up in all
the drama and my mom. Yes, you did. This hotel
was my way of finishing what she started. Oh,
what a gentle hug. Right on the stomach. Because
if I could make it work, maybe she'd be proud
of me. Maybe she'd come back and tell me what
I did to make her leave. That approval she's
been looking for. And now Fox is declaring a
war. And Carmela's right. I started it and I'm
a hypocrite of my dreams. You're going to die.
Whoa.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah,
you're forgetting who we are.
Oh, hell yeah.
Baby,
so cute. That was awesome. That was awesome.
I feel like Harley and Poison Ivy. Hey,
loser. That's so good. Finally living up to
your name, huh? I didn't know you performed
here. Loser. Sorry for pushing you into that.
Shouldn't realize it was a It's fine. Huh? I've
accepted that redemption's not really for
people like me. Are you still mad I saved
your life? I'm just not worth saving. No,
honey. That's why he was pushing him away
earlier. See you at the hotel tonight,
Whiskers. No, no, no, you won't. Yeah,
I will. He's blushing. He got a little crush
on him. I think it's mutual. Change of plans.
You were bought out for the night in there. Do I
collect for you or or have they paid? I'll do my
best, Daddy. You want me to come find you or
are you just like really small or something?
Fox, what are you? Oh, no. Sorry for the sudden
visit. I just need to borrow that empty little
head of yours. Oh, the hypnosis works on
him. I'd like to see you [ __ ] try. Oh no.
I've been wanting to do that. Oh no. Oh no.
It's almost cute how you screamed every time.
How do you think I was always one step ahead
of the princess? What? Think back. Any late
night jobs you can't quite remember? Oh my
god. I haven't been watching. Oh, you [ __ ]
Oh, it's so bad. Charlie ain't looking too
good under pressure. We did it. Adopted as
possible. Vaggie, give me the tea later.
I'll let you in on a little secret. Oh,
no. I would never. Oh, but you
already did. No. But I think your
time at the hotel has come to an end.
Oh, that's really sad. Stand up husk.
Oh, Greg, I'm so upset. No, Greg. He's
always being taken advantage of. Yeah,
and Husk does show up. I thought about our talk.
Oh, no. Look who's back. Well,
somebody needs to keep you guys
drunk. Huh? Hasn't been answering my
texts either. Something ain't right. Oh,
they're going to team up. We faced impossible odds
before. Together, we can do it again. Thank you
for keeping the faith that I lost control of.
So cute. Oh, don't. Oh, come on. Don't don't
Charlie, my lovely daughter, who I
love and miss. What's popping? Dad,
I need to talk to you. I'll send you my
location. Okay. That doesn't sound like
her. No, it doesn't. Uh, oh, no. Looks
like we got our power. That was him.
The [ __ ] What the [ __ ] was that,
Lilith? Screaming. Oh, the screaming rain.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we just watched
the episode five and six of what show of Hasbin
Hotel, baby. Of Hasbin Hotel. Greg knew all
that information. He was just quizzing me. Oh,
look at the background of this. Is an apple and a
serpent also. Do you see it? That's pretty cool.
The start of Lucy Lucy. What? Start of Lucy Lucy.
Lucifer. Oh, and I don't know what or Adam start
of Lucy Lucy. Yes. Yes. Or in this context, Adam
and Lilith actually. Yeah. Yes. Oh, Lucy Lucy. Uh,
did you have a favorite song here? Um, let's
see. I know I did. Which one was it that we
were fre Oh, the Charlie the Vaggie song. Yeah,
the great one. Um, yeah, the of the the duet,
but mostly Vaggie. So good. How about you? I would
probably opt for that one. And then probably the
Hus song. We opened with a really cool song in
episode five, too. Yeah, it was a really good
one with everybody. That was cool. Establishing
the grounds of where Vox was currently at. So,
uh, how are you feeling about this show? I mean,
we were expressing a little bit of concerns last
week. last week when we were here filming last
week, right? How are you feeling now with what
the progress is of these next two episodes? I much
preferred five and six to three and four. But that
being said, we only have two episodes left and I'm
feeling I'm feeling that the clock ticking. Like,
wow, we still have so much to do because what we
didn't really address in five and six was a lot
of heaven stuff. Like we we haven't moved forward.
Well, I it depends on where the season's going to
end, right? like we now have declared a full-blown
war and we have two episodes to deal with that
theoretically. So, uh I'm so glad we got to see
more of Vaggie and Charlie together. I'm happy
that um Vox is like really this huge huge threat.
I think there's a lot of parallels obviously
they literally say make hell great again. Um
there's a lot of parallels between this war and
um current wars and there's a lot of parallels
between uh the divide in the United States right
now. So I think that this show is taking big
swings. I'm really enjoying it and also I'm
still a little nervous about us only having two
episodes. How about you? I think it's did a lot
of heavy lifting over a lot of the concerns that
we were having. Like I I like everything they're
doing with Vox way more this time around. I still
feel like he's defeatable in some way, you know,
like he doesn't he hasn't reached this point yet
where it's like how do you take this guy down?
How is he undefeable? And you know what they're
commenting, what they're using it as a as a as
a political tapestry of, I think is pretty cool
because even though it's very relevant to today,
you could watch this show like 10 20 years
from now and you don't even need like today's
context to understand it, you know. Well,
history tends to repeat itself. So that's
true. Yeah. Like what's going on today is not
exactly u a first time of it all. So yeah,
watching him use like media manipulation, the
propaganda, weaponizing rage, acting like he's
one of the people while also disrespecting
current law and order and leadership.
It's a neat way to draw it and it's a cool way to
see how he rises in strength and the minations how
it's all formed where the heaven wanting to have
resolution and them cuz I even found myself like
here with you going well you know who's not wrong
about that like why would they forgive and then
you said that well the fighting has to stop at
some point and I was like oh yeah that's right
they don't want to fight anymore and I was already
I was caught up in the speech of well [ __ ]
man yeah Evan's got done them wrong they should
probably go kill But I I think that's the whole
point of why like I I love that they're addressing
this because when in life we go tit for tat. It's
not tit for tat. It's tit for tat and then tit t
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t t t t tat, like and I think that ob obviously
like not to make it too crazy political, but um
we have seen that in a lot of different places,
but especially with what's gone on in the last
hundred years, thousands of years, and especially
in the last two years in the Middle East, I think
that there's been a lot of commentary about who
started something and then also commentary about
what the United States placed is in helping. And
I kind of felt like Carmela felt like a little bit
like US coded here because while she's supplying
weapons for the people of hell, she's doing it
because she thinks it's the right thing to do
to protect her family, right? And and it's easy to
get caught up us looking at this being like, "No,
uh, heaven really effed over hell. They It was
a fullblown genocide. We see thousands of people
every year dying. That's what they were doing
every year. It's easy for us to be like, "Yeah,
we want vengeance." It's hard to be like, "And
when does the killing stop?" Yeah. And that's
what we all have to ask ourselves, like, how do
we, if you really are somebody who wants peace,
are you willing to let go of the past in order
to move forward towards peace? And I yeah,
I just I I was really moved by that storyline in
this because I like you, Greg. It's we now we've
lived in hell for a long time. So, we love these
people and we're like, you guys totally effed
us? Yeah. Um but at the same time, so what are we
going to do? Fight a war with heaven so that then
they can kill us more and we can kill them more
and us as in hell. Yeah. I just I I think that
that's it's an interesting way to tackle bigger
issues and and it's an allegory for a lot of other
wars throughout history, of course, because a lot
of wars are centered around the same thing. Yeah.
Um but that just it spoke to me in this particular
time period, even though it also speaks to a lot
of other things. Yeah. The commentary is pretty
strong and timely. Yeah. Yeah, I guess this comes
down to what how's the the uh immediate writing of
the characters going there because I like pulling
back and looking at all that. And like to me, as
much as like the commentary is strong in the first
season, it's more characters and I find myself
thinking more about what they're talking about
more than I am the actual character experiences
this time. Does that make sense? Yeah. Tell me
more what you mean. Like what kind of um moments
are you thinking more about than the character
experiences? It's like you care more about the
theme than you do about the individuals. Yeah.
I mean, yeah. I find that like when we're having
the most exciting conversations or our takeaways,
we're it's often associated more with like what
the show was talking about versus, you know,
like watching like Lucifer come into the equation
in the first season or Angel's struggle as a as an
addict and dealing with the sexual abuse in his
life. And do you find that to be a good a good
thing that we care more about plot than people or
bad? It's I don't know if it's good or bad. I mean
it's it's like it's interesting like the character
stuff is still there like there like the song
that's what makes the songs good you know like
the song with Vaggie and Charlie is really strong
because it it it is about them as you know how
she how Vaggie was able to honor the principles
and the faith system that Charlie lost sight of
and because this whole time she's been wanting the
approval of her mom and try to get her mom back.
That was a really strong moment. Yeah, it was. It
was a beautiful moment because we I I said early
in the episode I was like, she's annoying the piss
out of me. And Yeah. And it's because what And I
I like that they justified that this is a bigger
deal for Charlie. Like I I think last week you
said, "Why is Charlie caring so much about this
redemption thing now that we know what heaven is?"
Yeah. And there is something bigger going on here,
which is like she's trying to finish what her she
believes her mom wants and and started and what
would make her mom proud. And she's not doing
that because her mom's gone. She's doing that
in hopes that her mom loves her again. Yeah. Yeah.
That was like I remember we're speaking about how
she really wants validation. And that's why she's
going to these like extreme lengths to change the
narrative and that carries over from season one.
So I think it's still strong. How do you feel
about the husk stuff and angel dust? It's good
stuff. Good stuff. Do you like it? Do you like it?
Yeah. Yeah. I was I was happy. I mean, you called
this first you and pretty quickly that it's it was
Angel's turn to pull Husk out. Yeah. And it seems
like in that one moment he does. And yet now Angel
is under this spell. And so Husk's gonna have to
pull Angel out yet again because we see Husk's
like, "Something's wrong." Well, they'll probably
have to physically save him. Yeah. And then they
can profess their love for one another. You think
that's where we're going? I never quite picked up
on love between them in terms of romantic. Oh,
really? Until this episode. Then it was like,
"Okay, I guess he I wasn't sure is more accurate."
And when he started blushing is when I started to
wonder like, okay, I guess maybe it is actually
that. I feel like we got that in episode four of
season one. Um, but yes, I'm with you that we it
hasn't been a consistent through line where it's
been like, oh, clearly they're pining after each
other. Yeah, I thought they were just friends,
but this is the world of Hasbin Hotel where every
gay guy wants to sleep with every other gay guy.
That one line, am I gay? When Angel does comes
out, in hell, who cares? Everyone's gay here
apparently. Yeah. Um the Nifty stuff is so funny.
I don't understand why these characters keep
trusting Nifty. Like what is that character? She's
she's a little bit more cohesive than last season,
but she's, you know, she's doing her thing.
Ridiculous. Alistister. It's weird what they've
done with Alistister and Angel Dust because I
don't know about you. Did you feel like Angel
Dust was not really as much of a presence so far
before before this? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Like he had
that one episode about him. Totally. And then
here I thought it was kind of clever to actually
not make him as much of a presence. That way we
didn't pick up on any of this manipulation of
the hypnosis technique that Box was doing on him
cuz we did see those text messages, but I didn't
read them quickly and didn't know what they were
about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I remember there
was like one point like a [ __ ] ton of messages
to I didn't know what that was about either. But
if they were focusing more on Angel Dust, I don't
know if it would have made him more suspect, but
I thought that was kind of clever to like remove
him away from the equation. That way, you're not
suspecting it. And I kind of feel like they're
doing something similar with Alistar where he's
intentionally weaving this tapestry of everyone
turning on against each other at amongst the V's.
And so, if we're not fully paying attention to
Alistar, we're not going to 100% be mining what's
going on there. We saw him completely manipulate
Vox when he's like take the stage alone basically
and convinces him to do that. And then when um
Velvet turns her chair and she's been sitting
next to Alistister. It's very clear to me that
before Vox walked in, Alistister very clearly was
talking to Velvet and to um Val. Yeah. And he's
he's planting more seeds of doubt in their minds
because they immediately are doubting more than
they ever have. So, I'm with you. And I I think
we'll see a little bit more of that. How much do
you want the last two episodes to focus on Lily
and Sarah and Abel and what's going on there? And
how much do you want it to feature Lilith, like
the the the bigger part of this versus how much do
you want it to feature what's going on on in hell?
Whoa. Uh, I'm asking I would say I would prefer I
would prefer if they finally brought Lilith then.
I think they've been dangling this carrot for a
little too long and I don't even know that's the
right phrase. No. Yeah, that was right. Dangling
the carrot. Yeah. Who Who do you Who am I supposed
to be? What's a horse? Is that how that what
people do? They dangle carrots to their horses
to make the horse run. Really? You used the right
conclusion. I just don't know what the I started
questioning like who do you Wait, what was the
original intention of the dangling of the carrot?
Yeah, for a horse. Really? Is that where it comes
from? Oh, I didn't know that. I mean, I'm 99%
sure. Well, we have to know. We cannot proceed.
What's crazy about it is that you used it. I
know. And I question whether or not yourself.
Okay. I had the metaphor down or simile. Oh god,
what a difference. Offering someone incentive like
a reward to do something. Um, the idea of leading
a donkey by holding a carrot. Donkey. I thought
it was a horse. No. Yeah, you were way wrong. I
still think it's a horse. Donkeys and horses are
two very different animals. Okay. Well, now what's
the difference between a metaphor and a simile?
A simile is like, and a metaphor isn't like. Oh,
okay. So, I lost my original point. Uh, what are
you hoping for? They dangling the carrot of Lilith
for too long. And I agree. Yeah. Yeah, they've
been tangling that and I agree. And I I want more
Lilith. And I agree. I agree with that because I
think they were building up for this whole moment
of her explosion of her character Charlie to do
all that. But I'm like I I kind of feel like we've
been through a lot of this already with Charlie
to a certain extent in in season one already.
like we already that there was already a big
acknowledgement in season one that she's was
really doing this because she obvious they kept
calling her out that she wants validation and
approval and her dad shows up. So like I kind of
feel like we went through a good amount of this
already. Speaking of her dad, what do you think
about them call? What do you think the situation
is here with them calling Lucifer? Yeah. What
they say like we have our power source now they
said because he's an actual he's an actual
angel too. Lucifer. Yeah. but about Lucifer,
but also about Angel that they had there in uh
what what is your question exactly? What do you
think their game plan is about calling Lucifer
over? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, at the end,
can you like strip I don't know. Angel Juice. I've
watched the show. You haven't seen Supernatural,
have you? No, only a little. Okay. Okay. Well,
they're like they have angels in the show and
sometimes you have to like take the angel's ju guu
from them and I'm wondering if that's what they do
because they want to get to heaven. Well, the way
to take down the angels is only with angel killer
is is with the weapons the angels have already
crafted. So maybe in some way to arm themselves
to get into he or like where you're saying to
pierce the veil of heaven's gates, you need
some type of angel guju. They're using Carmen to
make the weapons right now because she has Yeah.
The weapons of mass destruction. Okay. Which is
a carrot when you dangle it, right? A carrot,
which is a metaphor, not a simile. Yes. Simil this
is like Oh, fascinating. Well, what are you hoping
for in the finale of this? Are you okay with the
lack of Lilith that we've had? How are you feeling
about Charlie's arc? Let's start right there.
How are you feeling about where Charlie's at with
this? She's not particularly like my favorite this
season. Well, I like that we finally get to she's
doing this to impress her mom. But I agree, she's
not my favorite this season either. I think even
last season I like Vaggie best, though, and I do
love Vagy. Vagy and Angel really both speak to me.
Um, but in in terms of answering your first
question and kind of having that tie in here,
I feel like we might not get Lilith for this
season. Well, that would suck. That they'd be
doing that thing that I said they'd be doing.
Thank the car about the season two like not
completing their narrative. Yeah. And I I mean,
Lucifer came in kind of late in in season one.
He came in like a one episode in the middle,
then he came in very late again in the finale.
But I'm right that we have two more episodes.
Yeah, I believe so. Okay. Because yeah, I mean,
we're referencing her a lot. And, you know, I I do
also think it's very interesting Vox keeps being
like this is what Lilith would want. It's like
kind of reminding me of um MLK Jr. for a little
bit where people constantly are like this is like
posting this is the MLK quote on this and on this
and it's like you're completely misinterpreting
his words here and uh you don't you didn't know
him and there's I think taken out of context
everything is different and him using her as the
north star just I wonder if they think it's enough
that we keep referencing her and she is a huge
deal in season 3. Well, that's religion, though.
That's like that's how that's how you have like
so many different denominations of Christianity.
You're 100% from like a billion people being like,
"Well, actually, here's what this part of
the Bible means." And then some guy shows up,
he's like, "You know, I got a third Bible now."
You know, so that's what they they're doing with
little words. That's totally right. And in
that comparison, then Charlie is Jesus. And
Jesus is like, "No, this is what my parent
actually thinks." And nobody's listening.
You get what I'm saying? Yeah. Is that a That's
a metaphor. Analogy. What's an analogy? Um,
analogies. An analogy. I know an analogy when
it's used, but I don't know how to describe.
Analogy would be what I just did. Like that is as
if it was MLK. Like you're Yes. But how what is
the clear delineation then between a metaphor and
an analogy? Metaphor is metaphorical language. Um,
as metaphor is a metaphor as opposed to a specific
example like that. Metaphor could be uh dangling
a carrot. Got it. But if you use like then is
that an expression? It is. Oh god. How are we
supposed to sell a screenplay when we can't tell
you the difference between an expression and now?
I can tell you what anamonop is. metaphor. Yeah.
And let's make sure we got all our bases covered
because we're not really going to talk too much
about it. And then Vagie having a very empowering
song was really cool. That was the sexiest they've
ever been because they were definitely doing it
and they did it through the art of dance. They
are so similar. Do you watch Harley Quinn the
animated series? I've only seen the first season.
Okay. So, you're not not that I've seen the first
two seasons. No. Yeah. Whichever one is the one
that ends up with them driving off. Thi this is
so Harley and Poison Ivy. Yeah. So so I mean I
know the characters well enough to understand.
Right. Of of course. Of course. But just I mean
specifically in the animated show this is that
it's their dynamic. Yeah. Which is I which I
love. It's that's my favorite animated show.
So I wonder if this is all going to end some giant
conversation like we're going to be on the brink
of war and then Lilith shows up to clear the air
because you're right. But we haven't gone to the
heaven spot to see what their POV is after all
this uh hell backlashes that they've received.
And that's like a star falling from the sky.
Yes. Good. That's an analogy, isn't it? No.
This is complicated. Move like water. Bruce Lee.
Yeah. Be like water. Um, but yeah. Do you have any
final strain thoughts that are lingering in the
air here? I love this world. Um, super glad that
we're doing this and I'm looking forward to the
next two and I hope they don't disappoint. Yeah,
I feel so bad for Angel, man. That was [ __ ]
heartbre. Yeah. No, it was easy to understand.
You just Yeah, I feel so bad for Angel. This is
so heartbreaking. He's just tossed around so much.
And I could hear myself clearly. No, I I got
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